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Mellotron Storm 
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 Posted: January 22 2011 at 20:16 |
Just thought i would mention the song "The Shattering Sky" which is on the "After The Storm" benefit cd for victims of Hurrican Katrina. Anyway just about every song on this double cd release was previously unreleased but i noticed the one KRAAN gave showed up on a later cd so...
Anyway this DJAM KARET track sounds like TANGERINE DREAM for the first half then drums and fat bass lines join in and then it turns heavier as the electronic beat gets pushed to the background.Guitar comes in late.Cool tune.
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: January 22 2011 at 20:02 |
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I should have a review up for The Heavy Soul Sessions next week. I'm a big fan as well guys. Still No Commercial Potential is probably my favourite but i enjoy them all.
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN
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moshkito
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Posted: January 20 2011 at 17:16 |
 O666 wrote:
Now one question : How can Bands like DK to relesed too many albums? Who support them ? You can see in PA, They haven't too many fans in this Prog site. |
You'll have to ask Gayle and the band about that.
But in general they all have day jobs and at least 2 of them do some music work in movies and other things. One of them is a part of a major record company I think, and so forth. It could be said that the project was/is a love thing and nothing else, but in the end, the history of their work deserves more, and they seem to do just fine, and not as concerned with having to become a big name band in the conventional schooling and design for most rock bands trying to "make it".
You either do something because you love it, or you do it because you are after something else ... and the part of "loving it"many times has nothing to do with anything else, except your discovery and ability to live through it and sustain it.
And DK has done that exceedingly well.
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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Siloportem
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Posted: January 20 2011 at 16:33 |
Moshkito, you're taking me way too seriously. I guess I'm just a fan too. Although I do consider (some) music to be art, I still listen to it for entertainment not for the intellectual stimulation. Not knowing any music theory doesn't help either (tried studying it once and it made too little sense to me). I guess most people treat it like entertainment. But to compare it to other forms of art. How many people are capable of appreciating a painting by Picasso (to name one) at a high level? Ofcourse, that kind of art was never "commercialized"for the masses. As far as I know there's no painter's equivalent of lady Gaga  and if there's I'd like to see it. I guess most music is the equivalent of paintings in hotel rooms. Slarti. I recently read an interview with Amplifier. A band who "emancipated" and took everything in their own hands. The guy said he never made as much money as he was now while under the wings of a record company. I think Djam Karet is doing that too. So it must even out, they may not sell very much. But they do make more money because there's less overhead.
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Thanks !! Your topics always so good and informative. I like you talk.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: January 20 2011 at 07:28 |
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I know the Muffins had to quit for a long while so they could make a living. I think I read somewhere they have other jobs. Also they are on the Cuneform Label now, which re-released their back catalog.doesn't take the cut that a major label does. I also think they started out and through most of the '90's were putting out their stuff independently.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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O666
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Posted: January 20 2011 at 05:11 |
100% agree with you Moshkito and I think commercial system forced musicians to changing their direction. There are too many samples that show this process. I think ELP is one of the commercial system victims. The start very good and they had potential to reach to pure "Progressive" music (IMO) but you saw what happened in "Love Beach". I'm not a Progressive music specialist and I judge with my feelings but I think the story of ELP is very tragic.
Now one question : How can Bands like DK to relesed too many albums? Who support them ? You can see in PA, They haven't too many fans in this Prog site.
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moshkito
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Posted: January 19 2011 at 19:04 |
Siloportem wrote:
But, sir. You talk like a guru. In riddles.
To be honest I've already decided that I like them so much that I want it all.
Which got me a signed copy of the heavy soul sessions, nice!
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I am a guru or sorts, internally and to myself. I am very spiritual inside, and if you take a look at the posts I have and how I discuss things, you will find that, I tend to go in for a lot of the (more) introspective music there is, and sometimes this means ... NO LYRICS ... why? ... because sometimes we think that we have to say something in order to tell someone something ... and we don't ... you can just paint, you can play, you can write ... and nothing else needs to be said.
Yes, I can see where someone might think I talk in riddles ... I'm the worst riddler there is! ... who the heck are you kidding ... a joke here by me is like a hundred bricks hitting your car on the road ... everyone will comment and say something!
The issue is, I'm a writer. I'm an artist. I (think that I) understand where some creative people come from, and it is not from places where we (the fans) decide what is right or wrong ... specially when it was done at a time when we were all reacting against the establishment, that helped define what became known as "progressive".
Another issue, is that boards like this, are afraid to get academic with their discussion and study of the art and the work ... otherwise this music would be respected by now because together we can make this work, but being idiots, we're just fans and nobodies ... that just buy the music like everyone else.
It's what happens when you are a part of a really high literary family ... and you meet some of those names ... you know something about them ... that is so simple, that it is almost stupid that we don't get it, and instead continue to suck up to a socialistic commercial system ... that is nowhere close to what "progressive" means at all, and really has no idea what the term, or concept even means! ... it doesn't sell, or show itself as number one and will never be on American Idol!
Edited by moshkito - January 27 2011 at 19:56
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: January 18 2011 at 18:44 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Siloportem
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Posted: January 18 2011 at 14:47 |
But, sir. You talk like a guru. In riddles. To be honest I've already decided that I like them so much that I want it all. Which got me a signed copy of the heavy soul sessions, nice!
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Thanks !! Your topics always so good and informative. I like you talk.
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moshkito
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Posted: January 17 2011 at 20:47 |
Siloportem wrote:
All right, sign me up. So far I'm liking: night for baku, burning the hard city and suspension & displacement |
Don't worry ... it's a great start ... just remember ... no preconceived notions ... just empty your mind ... and enjoy it ...
Please don't call me the guru of something or other ... is all I ask! 
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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Siloportem
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Posted: January 16 2011 at 02:20 |
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All right, sign me up. So far I'm liking: night for baku, burning the hard city and suspension & displacement
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O666
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Posted: January 12 2011 at 06:06 |
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I got " Burning the Hard City" last night and listened to it over 5 times. WOW. very great album in DK's style. After "Heavy soul...." ,this one shoked me more than others. I think you must listen to DK's album over 3 times to get what they play. Thanks.
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moshkito
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Posted: January 10 2011 at 00:19 |
AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:
Listening to some A Night For Baku songs now .... really stunning and captivating music... |
Wait until you get to "Suspension and Replacement" and that era ... that album is nice, but already polished and (for my ear) not as experimental and free form as some of the things they did earlier ... still good, mind you ... but by the time you hear things like "Dark Clouds, No Rain" ... then you know why I say that Walter really needs to spend some time on this stuff.
Edited by moshkito - January 17 2011 at 20:18
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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O666
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Posted: January 09 2011 at 14:17 |
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Nice picture. Matbe this kind of introducing(!) work beter than talking. I hope DK's fans come in to increase replys! If this thread go to page 2 or 3 , I think, its never come to page 1 again!
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Rivertree
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Posted: January 07 2011 at 18:48 |
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: January 07 2011 at 17:57 |
I think there's a lot of people who haven't tried them and should. Hopefully we can snag some new fans and hear from more old ones.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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O666
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Posted: January 07 2011 at 11:26 |
Thank you moshkito for your work and time. Perfect write and good information. Your long write is very useful and complete. Thank you Slartibartfast for your help and your time. I hope to see many other DK's fans in this thread. DK's music is very artistic and complex. You cant find them with 1 or 2 albums and 1 or 2 time listening to them. Their music is stylish but you can find many experimental moments in their music. Intresting and great band. Thanks.
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: January 05 2011 at 07:52 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
Reflections From The Firepool, New Dark Age, The Devouring, and A Night For Baku are my favorites. If you want to start off with something really heavy, Burning The Hard City. Really mellow, Ascension.
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Listening to some A Night For Baku songs now .... really stunning and captivating music...
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Bonnek
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Posted: January 05 2011 at 07:46 |
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Dunno if I count as a fan but I have quite a couple of their albums (listed below) and it's all 3 or 4 star stuff.
I may be a bit atypical in preferring their Suspension & Displacement album and not liking Devouring enough.
Reflections From The Firepool - 1989
Burning The Hard City - 1991
Suspension & Displacement - 1991
The Devouring - 1997
Ascension - 2001
New Dark Age - 2001
A Night for Baku - 2003
Recollection Harvest - 2005
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Snow Dog
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Posted: January 05 2011 at 07:07 |
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Listened to The Devouring again. Very Good. Enjoyed it a lot.
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