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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2010 at 10:07
Congratulations to Syria, the first Muslim country to ban the full veil in certain public spaces, which puts them alongside other Muslim countries who have asserted a secular social identity from the very beginning, like Turkey or Indonezia. Clap Apparently Jordan and Lebanon are going in the same direction more or less.

And also (from the same article), let's hear from a Muslim woman's mouth exactly what degree of individual liberty does the full veil imply:

Duaa, a 19-year-old university student in Damascus, said she hopes to continue wearing her niqab to classes when the next term begins in the fall despite the ban.

Otherwise, she said, she will not be able to study.

"The niqab is a religious obligation," said Duaa, who asked that her surname not be used because she was not comfortable speaking publicly on the issue. "I cannot go without it."



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2010 at 15:09
I'm not sure we have to congratulate Syria for that. I just note it. Neither I approve, nor I disapprove: I'm just waiting for Syria to become a true democracy.

About Lebanon: I've never been in this country, but I wonder how many women wear full veils in the public space. From the books (including comic-books) and the TV documentaries, it seems to me that it's a small minority.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2010 at 15:59
Bravo Syria!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2010 at 18:26
I think it's a good thing. I don't "congratulate" them but I think throwing off archaic and problem causing practices is a good idea.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2010 at 19:28
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

I think it's a good thing. I don't "congratulate" them but I think throwing off archaic and problem causing practices is a good idea.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2010 at 19:45

Yep.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2010 at 19:56
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Congratulations to Syria, the first Muslim country to ban the full veil in certain public spaces, which puts them alongside other Muslim countries who have asserted a secular social identity from the very beginning, like Turkey or Indonezia. Clap Apparently Jordan and Lebanon are going in the same direction more or less.

And also (from the same article), let's hear from a Muslim woman's mouth exactly what degree of individual liberty does the full veil imply:

Duaa, a 19-year-old university student in Damascus, said she hopes to continue wearing her niqab to classes when the next term begins in the fall despite the ban.

Otherwise, she said, she will not be able to study.

"The niqab is a religious obligation," said Duaa, who asked that her surname not be used because she was not comfortable speaking publicly on the issue. "I cannot go without it."




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2010 at 20:13
I wouldn't congratulate Syria.

We all would like to see it become a true democracy, but it can do so without banning the burqa. In fact, one could argue it would more democratic if it did not.
While I personally think its a good thing actually, well...its not illegal in America and somehow we are still a democracy and things have not exploded into religious warfare and general chaos.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2010 at 21:02
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2010 at 04:19
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

I wouldn't congratulate Syria.

We all would like to see it become a true democracy, but it can do so without banning the burqa. In fact, one could argue it would more democratic if it did not.
While I personally think its a good thing actually, well...its not illegal in America and somehow we are still a democracy and things have not exploded into religious warfare and general chaos.
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Syria is certainly no democracy (shady activities, lebanon etc...), but it tries to be modern in its own ways by protecting all religious confessions (despite being a vast majority of Muslims), especially the minorities (Christians and different Islam sects and even non-religious)  by pushing a läïc state.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2010 at 04:41
I saw a documentary about Soudi-Arabia and the possebilaty for it to become a democracy, they followe a young prince (well aroun 45 so not THAT young ) travveld around with him and talked about how the strict and hiararcic soiciety it is and how SLOW the prosses to unifie the hole country to allow democracy, at least you can say it will take ca 200 years for all the provinces and their royalty to fully accept the democratic value system of the western world,  I don't know if it is on You tube though (that Docu).
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2010 at 05:51
Here's an interesting question, which country is most likely to become a democracy first?  Saudi Arabia or Iran?

Edited by Slartibartfast - August 02 2010 at 06:30
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2010 at 06:26
Also, can you guys and girls please sign this petition for the release of Sakineh, the woman who is going to be stoned to death for adultery in Iran sometime soon: http://freesakineh.org/

Almost 144 thousand people have already signed so maybe it can make a difference.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2010 at 06:30
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Also, can you guys and girls please sign this petition for the release of Sakineh, the woman who is going to be stoned to death for adultery in Iran sometime soon: http://freesakineh.org/

Almost 144 thousand people have already signed so maybe it can make a difference.

I've heard about that and signed up right away.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2010 at 07:04
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2010 at 08:29
Just stumbled upon this, never heard about it before Dead 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2010 at 12:47
^ That's just the tip of the iceberg.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2010 at 12:48
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2010 at 12:57
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Also, can you guys and girls please sign this petition for the release of Sakineh, the woman who is going to be stoned to death for adultery in Iran sometime soon: http://freesakineh.org/

Almost 144 thousand people have already signed so maybe it can make a difference.

Signed up. What a barbaric attitude. Hope this makes a difference!

As for the thread-shame on the French. Way to show religious and cultural tolerance!! 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2010 at 12:58
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Just stumbled upon this, never heard about it before Dead 


Nothing like a little bit of totally UN-biased, objective journalism there. LOL 


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