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cannon 
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 Topic: Deep Purple I or II ?
Posted: July 22 2010 at 21:29 |
Which Deep Purple formation has had more of an influence on progressive rock?
Deep Purple I
Personnel: Ritchie Blackmore, Ian Paice, Jon Lord, Rod Evans, and Nick Simper
Albums: Shades of Deep Purple, The Book of Taliesyn, Deep Purple(1969)
Deep Purple II
Personnel: Ritchie Blackmore, Ian Paice, Jon Lord, Ian Gillian, and Roger Glover
Albums: Deep Purple in Rock, Fireball, Machine Head, Made in Japan, Who Do We Think We Are
I didn't include Concerto for Group and Orchestra. I won't go into reasons why.
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CinemaZebra
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Posted: July 22 2010 at 21:31 |
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I'll vote for Deep Purple 1 because no one else will. You know, unless they're like me.
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The Quiet One
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Posted: July 22 2010 at 21:32 |
INFLUENCE?: Certainly Mark II, while they didn't play prog rock, they influenced a lot of Heavy Prog bands and surely some Prog Metal bands.
However, Mark I definitely sounds closer to Prog Rock, though since that wasn't the question, I'll vote for Mark II.
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Posted: July 22 2010 at 21:32 |
 CinemaZebra wrote:
I'll vote for Deep Purple 1 because no one else will. You know, unless they're like me. |
Read the question in the post of his 
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Posted: July 22 2010 at 21:50 |
The Quiet One wrote:
CinemaZebra wrote:
I'll vote for Deep Purple 1 because no one else will. You know, unless they're like me. |
Read the question in the post of his |
I haven't voted, but The Book of Taliesyn certainly gives a clue as to the correct choice?
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Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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NotAProghead
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Posted: July 22 2010 at 21:57 |
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Mark I, even if it was proggier, was not famous enough to be influental.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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The Quiet One
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Posted: July 22 2010 at 22:12 |
NotAProghead wrote:
Mark I, even if it was proggier, was not famous enough to be influental. |
 That means you voted for Mark II, right?
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Posted: July 22 2010 at 22:18 |
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Mark 1 was closer to prog, mark 2 was more influential to prog. Anyone who thinks book is mor einfluential than in rock....well they aren't too bright.
Influential isn't synonymous with good, though.
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NotAProghead
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Posted: July 23 2010 at 00:02 |
The Quiet One wrote:
NotAProghead wrote:
Mark I, even if it was proggier, was not famous enough to be influental. |
That means you voted for Mark II, right? |
Right.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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CinemaZebra
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Posted: July 23 2010 at 00:13 |
The Quiet One wrote:
CinemaZebra wrote:
I'll vote for Deep Purple 1 because no one else will. You know, unless they're like me. |
Read the question in the post of his |
Whoops. Oh well, the post still fits for ME anyway. 
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Posted: July 23 2010 at 04:17 |
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I like both eras.
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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CPicard
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Posted: July 23 2010 at 09:47 |
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OK, it's about Deep Purple Mark I and Deep Purple Mark II. I thought it was about their first 2 LPS.
I voted for DP MII, for I think that, in spite of all, the younger generation of progressive bands have started to know DP by "Smoke on the Water" and LP like Machine Head or Made In Japan.
Plus, from what I read, it seems that DP was first seen as a second rate Vanilla Fudge or Iron Butterfly. The critics were harsh when talking about Concerto for Band and Orchestra. In Rock is still appreciated as their "jailbreak" album.
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Cactus Choir
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Posted: July 23 2010 at 10:18 |
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I think the Mark II band was more influential on both prog and hard rock largely by dint of it being more successful. Mark I was only really known for having the Hush hit single so probably thought of as a pop band(!) The psych/proto-prog material on the albums was quite good but to me it gives the impression of following trends rather than setting them, and Purple didn't really establish their own identity until In Rock.
Mark II was hard rock/heavy metal, but quite proggy live (eg the extended arrangements for Mandrake Root and Space Truckin) and sometimes in the studio with tracks like Child in Time and Fools.
Edited by Cactus Choir - July 23 2010 at 10:19
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"And now...on the drums...Mick Underwooooooooood!!!"
"He's up the pub"
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otto pankrock
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Posted: July 23 2010 at 18:48 |
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MK.II Although MK.I dabbled in prog. especially on the 3rd album, no one bought it. Stuff like Child in Time and The Mule had much more impact.
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Posted: July 24 2010 at 00:44 |
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Went with DP II. I got to see them live and not version 1.0
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The Quiet One
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Posted: July 24 2010 at 00:48 |
crimhead wrote:
Went with DP II. I got to see them live and not version 1.0 |
That's not the point 
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Posted: July 24 2010 at 12:21 |
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Shades of Deep Purple is more far out and progressive than any other albums they ever did so I'm going with that.
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Posted: July 26 2010 at 06:53 |
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Mark II as that's considered the "classic" line up and produced most of the songs that Seep Purple are known for.
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Posted: July 26 2010 at 07:03 |
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I don't think DP Mark II was very much influential to prog, more to hard rock. As DP Mark I wasn't influential either because, although prog, was pretty obscure, it is hard to vote based on influence to prog. On preference, I'd go with Mark I, because the three first albums are a mix of psychedelia and early prog rock,
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Posted: July 28 2010 at 08:07 |
Mark II because it influenced musicians to combine more,...stylistically, a classical approach to hard rock. I suppose Fireball, In Rock, and Machine Head reached more musicians worldwide. One example I could give regarding DP'S influence on prog would be the following: Influential? or accidental?......you be the judge. When Peter Bardens solos on organ. The early Camel titles have organ jams. Long running lines of classical/jazz improv along with Andy Ward's style of drumming sounds quite like Deep Purple for about a whole of 8 minutes.
Omega....200 Years After the Last War is very reminiscent of the Deep Purple Mark II sound. There are various other underground European prog band's with an influence of D.P. Goblin has produced many instrumental tracks which provide interplay between guitar and organ. A host of others like Gracious, Early Lucifer's Friend, .......I don't know,..you must observe closely the jam sections and connect it buy sampling some instrumental sections of Purple's music.
I often get the impression that Deep Purple were influenced by Keith Emerson's The Nice. Ritchie Blackmore filled in for Davy O' List one night and the event was recorded. I've seen it listed twice and it may be a bootleg. I can see Blackmore fitting in with The Nice. Blackmore had already been working with classical musician Jon Lord. They seemed to have ties with the prog world due to their idea of combining Classical modes to hard rock. Proggers took the idea and combined it with a softer melodic approach however, they couldn't hide that Deep Purple sound. If you've been a listener for decades it's pretty easy to spot.
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Deep Purple I or II ?