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Points: 22989 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2010 at 16:12
Originally posted by Wiktor Hatif Wiktor Hatif wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by Wiktor Hatif Wiktor Hatif wrote:

I just want to say that czech republic, poland and slovakia are CENTRAL european countries, and romania, yugoslavia and croatia are SOUTH european. A little bit of geography doesn't hurt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Europe


Romania isn't a Southern European country by any stretch of imagination LOL


I don't understand why not? Besides wikipedia (yeah I know, but other sources too) states that romania is Southeastern Europe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romania



There's a big difference between "Southern Europe" and "SouthEastern Europe". The former is Greece, Italy, Spain, Cyprus, Portugal, all those sunny countries washed by the sea. The latter is Romania, Bulgaria, Albania, the former Yugoslavia - the southern part of Eastern Europe (a term that is both geographical and political; Southern Europe is only a geographical term).
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Originally posted by Wiktor Hatif Wiktor Hatif wrote:

I know that this division is accurate while talking about past, but using it today makes a whole lot of people think that things are still that way in Europe. And later I hear people talking: oh, you're from poland? so you understand russian? - NO, I DO NOT UNDERSTAND A WORD OF THIS LANGUAGE :)
Nobody thinks that is still "that way" in Europe, but so many people in Eastern Europe are knowing that  the fact is that some countries are really  EX YU just because those countries never  ever existed before Yougoslavia -  those are Slovenia and Macedonia. So, this comparation with Poland and Russia is not seriosly, i guessConfused 


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Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by Wiktor Hatif Wiktor Hatif wrote:

I just want to say that czech republic, poland and slovakia are CENTRAL european countries, and romania, yugoslavia and croatia are SOUTH european. A little bit of geography doesn't hurt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Europe


Romania isn't a Southern European country by any stretch of imagination LOL


I don't understand why not? Besides wikipedia (yeah I know, but other sources too) states that romania is Southeastern Europe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romania
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Originally posted by Wiktor Hatif Wiktor Hatif wrote:

I just want to say that czech republic, poland and slovakia are CENTRAL european countries, and romania, yugoslavia and croatia are SOUTH european. A little bit of geography doesn't hurt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Europe


Romania isn't a Southern European country by any stretch of imagination LOL
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Originally posted by Wiktor Hatif Wiktor Hatif wrote:

I know that this division is accurate while talking about past, but using it today makes a whole lot of people think that things are still that way in Europe. And later I hear people talking: oh, you're from poland? so you understand russian? - NO, I DO NOT UNDERSTAND A WORD OF THIS LANGUAGE :)


I perfectly understand both.Prog has it's history, and its history is related with region history. So -I don't think one's political symphaties are enough serious reason for changing the history

(Personally ,I don't like Russian language as well)
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I know that this division is accurate while talking about past, but using it today makes a whole lot of people think that things are still that way in Europe. And later I hear people talking: oh, you're from poland? so you understand russian? - NO, I DO NOT UNDERSTAND A WORD OF THIS LANGUAGE :)
"Ffffaaahhh, seeko baaaaaa
Neeeeee toe, kare lo yeahhh
Sa sa sa sa saa! Fssss
Drrrrrrrrr bo ki!
Rapateeka! do go taaaam
Rapateeka! do go tchaa"

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Points: 181 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2010 at 14:41
Originally posted by Wiktor Hatif Wiktor Hatif wrote:

I just want to say that czech republic, poland and slovakia are CENTRAL european countries, and romania, yugoslavia and croatia are SOUTH european. A little bit of geography doesn't hurt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Europe

And if you're starting a debate about geography:
-Yugoslavia doesn't exist anymore
-Croatia once was part of EX YU, so why are you mentioning it separately?
-At school we were taught, that SLO, a part of EX YU is a Central Europe country, but I agree with Snobb, that this doesn't really matter right now.
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Originally posted by Wiktor Hatif Wiktor Hatif wrote:

I just want to say that czech republic, poland and slovakia are CENTRAL european countries, and romania, yugoslavia and croatia are SOUTH european. A little bit of geography doesn't hurt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Europe


Whenever PA is not a Geographical site, I think the use of Socio-political "Eastern Europe" is absolutely logical. We're speaking about music there (not about climat), and all this region countries has common progressive rock history because of Socialist repressions or even occupation
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I just want to say that czech republic, poland and slovakia are CENTRAL european countries, and romania, yugoslavia and croatia are SOUTH european. A little bit of geography doesn't hurt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Europe
"Ffffaaahhh, seeko baaaaaa
Neeeeee toe, kare lo yeahhh
Sa sa sa sa saa! Fssss
Drrrrrrrrr bo ki!
Rapateeka! do go taaaam
Rapateeka! do go tchaa"

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Points: 314 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2010 at 12:55
an amazing Smak's track :
 
 
PS ...or this one from the same album...Wink 


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OK, continuing my post from here:

Bands from former Czechoslovakia

Here's the reply to my reply:

Originally posted by Marty McFly Marty McFly wrote:

I know Moris, I've tried to edit the post 5 times to blue Synkopy too, but unfortunately, to no avail.

Now to the rest, my opinion (common knowledge, not deep listening and research):

Bacily (prog-related?) 
- don't know much. Prog-Related or Proto Prog. But I don't know them at all.

Etc (folk, crossover)
- I suppose Crossover, their second album is the best. Then they got ban on making music and next albums are released many years later in 80s.
Here are pleasing news from the land of Freaks

I have to note that in Czech R., he is rated as one of the Rock legends, among Radim Hladík (Blue Effect) and Michal Pavlíček (Pražský výběr).

Extempore (RIO/avant) 
- I was listening them recently. Really great weird stuff

Jazz Cellula (jazz-rock/fusion)
- ? Never heard about them.

Prudy (prog related/proto prog)
-Collegium Musicum related

Jazz Celula - really great Jazz. Unfortunately, it doesn't have too much of Rock "element", so maybe this will be a problem.

Extempore - sure bet for Avant, I will prepare my suggestion soon.

Prudy - still haven't listened them. However, their first album is listed under Collegium Musicum

Etc (Vladimir Misik & Etc ...) - I hope he will be successful for Crossover. So far so good.



Edited by Marty McFly - July 12 2010 at 20:04
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Originally posted by elektrykbestia elektrykbestia wrote:

How about Riverside from Poland? Also, SBB from Poland? Both progressive bands..



They both are on PA, and in fact are possibly most popular progressive artists from all Eastern Europe (just from different periods of time).
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Janez Boncina is a legendary, crossover prog singer-songwritter from Slovenia who was started his career with that early progrock band Srce (I posted one live track by  them). IMHO, Janez deserved to be at PA! 
 
issued 1983
 
 
live recorded, i dont know the year.
 
 
 
As I said above, his early band Srce :
 
1973 live recorded


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How about Riverside from Poland? Also, SBB from Poland? Both progressive bands..
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWqN9KdS_1375gZLG-A0X2w?view_as=subscriber
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Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:

Also, Alex, I'm curious to know, could you understand this?!? These villages are not far away from where I live (20 minutes by car), but unfortunately very few people here are aware of that.


Istro-Romanians... It depends. When they speak normally, sometimes it doesn't make any sense and sounds more like Portuguese, sometimes I recognize words any even bigger portions of talk, but even then I can't figure out what they're saying overall. But when they're asked to speak clear and count or say the days of the week, it sounds almost like Romanian. Also, interesting to see that they have absolutely no problem to understand the Romanian reporter.
Phoenix have done a whole piece sung in A-Romanian (but I don't know which A-Romanian dialect they chose, Istro-Romanian or another one). It can be heard on PA: Canticlu A Cucuveaualiei
How are calling these guys? In many Balkan countries they're called Vlachs (Vlachos in Greece).

The other sample you posted sounded a bit like Gypsy.
Amazing Istra was - originaly - Italia, and that great italian spirit is to still live there - although that italian majority in Istra were, sadly enough, send by trucks to Italy in 1945 - or just executed by Slovenians partisans. I love Istra Heart- especialy inside of the peninsula is great. In 70s and early 80s, those "ghost villiges" were filled up by many of hippies from different countries;  the artists, musicians, or just freaks - hey, Ask Mr Clarke for more details.Smile
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Points: 314 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2010 at 16:47
Originally posted by snobb snobb wrote:

Originally posted by ko ko wrote:

Originally posted by snobb snobb wrote:

(...)even if I spent almost three years living not too far from Tuzla

Are you served military? As you know, there's a big US AF base near Tuzla; or as journalist aswell?


No, not "White Eagle" base

I lived in Zvornik
Aha. I have been at Majevica. CHEERS!
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Originally posted by ko ko wrote:

Originally posted by snobb snobb wrote:

(...)even if I spent almost three years living not too far from Tuzla

Are you served military? As you know, there's a big US AF base near Tuzla; or as journalist aswell?


No, not "White Eagle" base

I lived in Zvornik
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Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

The other sample you posted sounded a bit like Gypsy.
Here are alot of, so called "white gypsies", who did do a great music-for example: fantastic  guitarist R.M. Točak is Gypsy one; or, one of the best singers ever in ex Yu - Aki, the singer of " Parni Valjak" 'is Gypsy too, etc.  Balkan(music) is not Balkans - without them!
 
 
yea, you ought to hear his amazing vocal abilites!!! >>>>>>>>>>>>
 
1976 LIVE AUDIO StarStarStarStarStar
 
 
 


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Originally posted by snobb snobb wrote:

(...)even if I spent almost three years living not too far from Tuzla
Are you served military? As you know, there's a big US AF base near Tuzla; or as journalist aswell?
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Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:

Originally posted by ko ko wrote:

A progrock band (from Tuzla, Bosnia)  Terusi,  from early 70s, former Yugoslavia > 
 
 
Also an obscure progrock band from former Yugoslavia, Ibn Tup, i dont know from where exactly (maybe from Serbia, because of the record label) >


I'm amazed!Clap Never heard of those.

It's a pity they released just a handful of singles...it seems Ibn Tup are from Vojvodina, most likely Novi Sad.


Here's my little contribution to prog obscurity of the former country:


What he said Clap" razjebala sluzokožu" StarStarStarStarStar
 
Never heard that one before, awesome stuff!!!Big smile 
Thank you Mr Clarke!
 
 
PS yea, i have feelling that Ibn Tup was from Vojvodina, you know - abit of humor - that's it!!!; anyway, that communists regime wasnt so bad. Wink
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