Prog and Intellect

shockedjazz wrote: So many intelectual display against inntelectualism is not very suspicious? As the ones who hates philosophy, are not they the philosophical tipe themselfs? I goes also for the so called Nietzsche "the Dick" that was one of the main reason why nowadays people still talks intelectualy of anti-intelectual views. So bashing him ( as intelectual) appears to be a little bit childish. The people today so relied in scientific views about enviroment and cultural influence....Dont you see the place of Nieztsche in your inherited intelectual antiintelctualism? Arent you fighting with yourselves, dear intelectuals behind the mask?...in this case a neewspaper with two holes  .

Wow. This is the first time in my life that the grammar nazi in me has been beaten down by the philosophy student in me.

I am the I am.

jammun wrote: I am the I am. I am the IAMS. I am the Cat food Cat food cat food again.   What other genre offers such possibilities for free association?

Free Jazz

Slartibartfast wrote: Dean wrote: jammun wrote: I am the I am. I am the IAMS. I am the Cat food Cat food cat food again.   What other genre offers such possibilities for free association?     Free Jazz Jamband Punk Grebo Grindcore   Crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch....

C&W is also a good choice.  All us intellectuals, let's pop a top, agin, for it surely is five o'clock somewhere.

Cowboys & Wenches.  , specially if they're drinking or getting divorced or fetchin' momma from the prison in the'r pickup truck.

Easy Money wrote: If prog rock appreciation = intellectualism, then we can then determine that the more challenging, complex and progressive a prog rock band is, then the more intellectual there audience is. For instance King Crimson fans probably have an IQ of about 150, while those who listen to the more simplified stadium rock prog of latter day Pink Floyd are more around about 112 (at best).

Out of curiosity, where would fans of RIO stand?

A Person wrote: Easy Money wrote: If prog rock appreciation = intellectualism, then we can then determine that the more challenging, complex and progressive a prog rock band is, then the more intellectual there audience is. For instance King Crimson fans probably have an IQ of about 150, while those who listen to the more simplified stadium rock prog of latter day Pink Floyd are more around about 112 (at best). Out of curiosity, where would fans of RIO stand?

Fred Frith - 155
Shining (Norway) - 142
Frank Zappa - 125
John Zorn - 118

Edited by Easy Money - May 22 2010 at 13:35

Easy Money wrote: A Person wrote: Easy Money wrote: If prog rock appreciation = intellectualism, then we can then determine that the more challenging, complex and progressive a prog rock band is, then the more intellectual there audience is. For instance King Crimson fans probably have an IQ of about 150, while those who listen to the more simplified stadium rock prog of latter day Pink Floyd are more around about 112 (at best). Out of curiosity, where would fans of RIO stand? Fred Frith - 155 Frank Zappa - 125 John Zorn - 118

Interesting.

Prog in relation to other genres:

Total serialisation (Milton Babbit) - 172
Afro-Cuban jazz (Eddie Palmieri) - 165
20th century bi-tonality (Milhaud) - 161
Classical music of India (Ragas etc) - 157
post-romantic extended chromaticism (Prokofiev) - 153
King Crimson - 150
Artsy poetic rappers (Ludicrus) - 137
latter day Pink Floyd - 112
Michael Jackson - 109
ELO - 87

Edited by Easy Money - May 22 2010 at 13:44

i have been doing some thinking on thinking,and how the mind relates to. and is affected by, the listening to and appreciation of music
 
i find, at least with myself, that the type of intelligence of my own that is used and developed by listening to music, is mainly spatial
         through decades of serious music listening, i have developed the capability of "seeing music" and i don't mean a type of hallucination, but what i have labelled "the mind's eye" when i listen to music, and most importantly, complex music like prog and classical, often i imagine that what i am hearing can be seen, sort of like a detailed graph in my mind
           interesting to note that before there was recorded music that could be played back, there was merely music that was recorded, that could not be played back, and was just recorded on to a graph, this being first developed in the 1840s to 1860s
             is what i am describing strike any chords with other readers? (no pun intended!)