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UndercoverBoy 
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Joined: November 10 2009 Location: Tulsa, OK, U.S. Status: Offline Points: 5148 |
 Posted: May 19 2010 at 21:32 |
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I'd also like to see Proggers explainrainbows and how magnets work.
admin - profanities removed Edited by Easy Livin - May 20 2010 at 02:35 |
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Triceratopsoil
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Joined: April 03 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18016 |
Posted: May 19 2010 at 21:34 |
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I wasn't gloating, I was pointing out a possible relation between my self-perceived intellect and my love of progressive rock. If you can't pick up on that, not to mention if you blindly believe the views of two people who are ridiculously impressive individuals due to their ability to get degrees in a field where the majority of "facts" are made up connections, perhaps I'm not interested in discussing it with you.
Besides, my belief system is largely based on not giving a sh*t about most people, so I think I will ignore you from now on. |
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A Person
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Joined: November 10 2008 Location: __ Status: Offline Points: 65760 |
Posted: May 19 2010 at 21:36 |
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They are miracles, in a similar way that you can rearrange your liver to the solid mental grace.  I don't think intellect has as much to do with it as open-mindedness to a different kind of music, although that could go for anything really, new food, paintings, etc. Edited by Easy Livin - May 20 2010 at 02:35 |
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JLocke
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Joined: November 18 2007 Status: Offline Points: 4900 |
Posted: May 19 2010 at 22:07 |
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Oops, looks like I hurt the little pompous teen's feelings. Not intentional; I'm just kind of blunt sometimes. Of course, I'm perfectly willing to admit that I may be an idiot, unlike yourself, but the fact remains: people with degrees have more credibility than a cocky teenager.
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Henry Plainview
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Joined: May 26 2008 Location: Declined Status: Offline Points: 16715 |
Posted: May 19 2010 at 22:09 |
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I only have three things to add to this thread:
1. People who call themselves "intellectuals" are, almost exclusively, a bunch of w**kers. 2. The only thing IQ tests measure is how good you are at taking IQ tests, and anybody who's actually intelligent realizes that they are meaningless to the world outside of the MENSA meetings where they solve puzzle books. 3. I think that enjoying experimental music of any time depends largely on your willingness to be open to new things, as most people, unfortunately, find things that are unfamiliar to them unpleasant and disorienting. Everybody filters their current experiences through their past ones, but for some reason we have a constant desire for novelty that outweighs the naturally conservative effects of our brain. I would agree that some prog is more contemplative, but that's not a trait that's exclusive to it. P.S. Neitzsche was a dick.
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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JLocke
Prog Reviewer
Joined: November 18 2007 Status: Offline Points: 4900 |
Posted: May 19 2010 at 22:15 |
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InClouds
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Joined: March 30 2010 Location: MInnesota, USA Status: Offline Points: 109 |
Posted: May 19 2010 at 22:17 |
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Still, you could be a tad more humble about it. You came into the conversation solely to state the results of an IQ test and then immediately declared it bulls*hit when the results were contested. You may very well be very intelligent and that may be relevant to the discussion, but the fact that IQ tests aren't known to be extremely accurate indicators of intelligence still stands. Rather than the score, it's actually the percentile that you're in that gives a more accurate measure of your intelligence in relation to other people. But, this is a bit off topic........ I do think there is a correlation between complex music and intelligence. I think in general someone with a higher intellect will probably be better able to appreciate complexity, and prog is known to be fairly (and somethimes very) complex music.
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jplanet
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VIP Member Joined: August 30 2006 Location: NJ Status: Offline Points: 799 |
Posted: May 19 2010 at 22:28 |
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There may be a connection between progressive music and intellect, in that most prog fans probably fit the description of HSP's (Highly Sensitive Persons), who tend to also be very intelligent.
HSP's are more likely to be irritated by repetition, and respond better to subtleties and complexity. It is likely that this explains why prog was more popular in the 70's - when LSD and pot were all the rage, both of which can cause non-HSP's to experience music in ways that HSP's do without any chemical stimulation... |
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NecronCommander
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Prog Metal Team Joined: September 17 2009 Location: Madison, WI Status: Offline Points: 16122 |
Posted: May 19 2010 at 23:13 |
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QFE. Words of wisdom (even the part where he calls me a w**ker, hehe)
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RalphWaldo
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Joined: January 31 2010 Location: Sunhillow Status: Offline Points: 31 |
Posted: May 19 2010 at 23:17 |
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For all you "intellectuals" out there. Read "This is your brain on music" by Daniel Levitin and you my gain some better insight into what makes you like the kind of music you like. It's very interesting.
Let's not be prog snobs! Were not better than anybody else - I can assure you. And trying to correlate IQ or intellect with the kind of music you prefer is presumptuous. I love prog. I am happy. That is enough.
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The T
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: May 19 2010 at 23:30 |
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Nietzsche was a sex-deprived man who spent too much time thinking and little time actually living. I remember a few years ago I used to think things like him, I started to become somewhat of a little-Friedrich in my views of the world and of people and of relations and of power and everything.....until I finally found social company.... And all that sh*t went to hell  Prog music, again, is not even THE most difficult or complex or advanced music out there. It pales in comparison next to academic ("classical") music, it fails next to jazz, etc. People who think they're smarter just because they listen to prog need to go out and prove themselves in the world. Go out and talk with people about real-live, every-day things... if you can't even carry a decent water-dispenser conversation, congratulations, you're a prog genius and a social idiot.
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The T
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: May 19 2010 at 23:31 |
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Yes it is. It's all about what we learn to like, what we're taught to like, what we inherited in our genes to like, what we are TRAINED to like. Nothing more.
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JLocke
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Joined: November 18 2007 Status: Offline Points: 4900 |
Posted: May 19 2010 at 23:32 |
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I think you and I are gonna get along just fine, here. Welcome to PA.
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RalphWaldo
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Joined: January 31 2010 Location: Sunhillow Status: Offline Points: 31 |
Posted: May 19 2010 at 23:32 |
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The T
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: May 19 2010 at 23:55 |
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Let' agree on this, 18-year-old master: you ARE a genius. Capisce? You are much more intelligent than 99% of people around you, and 80% of people on this website. In fact, you're so damn bright, most people here should just shut the f**k up when you speak, as it's obvious your words make theirs sound like ape noise. But your belief system, largely based on giving a sh*t about most people, shows a socially-isolated, uncommunicative, alone person, probably an unhappy one, for it is in social interaction where humans get fully realized and fulfilled. Ergo, my genius friend, all your intelligence will be worth sh*t for you in the future. In conclusion, while you are great at connecting dots and numbers, you're terrible at doing what most mammals can do: communicate with actual beings. That, my friend, is social idiocy. Gloat, jerk-off your intellect if you want. I think we will ALL ignore you from now on.
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InClouds
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Joined: March 30 2010 Location: MInnesota, USA Status: Offline Points: 109 |
Posted: May 19 2010 at 23:59 |
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That's a good point; it would definitely be absurd to suggest that prog is the most complex form of music. Still, can we really say that intelligence isn't at all related to the type of music you listen to? Maybe not even intelligence; maybe it has more to do with certain ways of thinking and approaching things? For example, I like things that challenge me and make me think and I think that's part of what I find attractive about prog: it challenges me. Someone who finds it uncomfortable to be challenged is much less likely to enjoy progressive music, I would think. I guess this doesn't directly relate to intelligence, but it is interesting to think about. But I'm just rambling at this point......what the hell do I know, anyway?
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KoS
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Joined: May 17 2005 Location: Los Angeles Status: Offline Points: 16310 |
Posted: May 20 2010 at 00:23 |
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Musical taste and intelligence have no correlation whatsoever.
Stop rationalizing your doucheness.
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InClouds
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Joined: March 30 2010 Location: MInnesota, USA Status: Offline Points: 109 |
Posted: May 20 2010 at 00:33 |
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This is interesting, I found a chart that relates musical taste to SAT scores: http://www.theinternetjournalist.com/does-musical-taste-influence-intelligence/
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JLocke
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Joined: November 18 2007 Status: Offline Points: 4900 |
Posted: May 20 2010 at 00:38 |
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^ Damn, those kids all have bad taste in music
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InClouds
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Joined: March 30 2010 Location: MInnesota, USA Status: Offline Points: 109 |
Posted: May 20 2010 at 00:56 |
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Hahaha, yeah mostly. Although I did see Muse, Pink Floyd, Tool, and The Doors; so not completely terrible, at least. I'm not at all surprised to see Beethoven as the highest and Lil' Wayne as the lowest, but there doesn't really seem to be much of a correlation overall.
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