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debrewguy

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Posted: November 12 2009 at 21:21

i feel sorry for those who don't get fed, or loved.

"Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.

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Posted: November 12 2009 at 23:09

debrewguy wrote:

i feel sorry for those who don't get fed, or loved.

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Posted: November 12 2009 at 23:47

The T wrote:

debrewguy wrote:

i feel sorry for those who don't get fed, or loved.

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Posted: November 13 2009 at 00:00

Pekka wrote:

The T wrote:

debrewguy wrote:

i feel sorry for those who don't get fed, or loved.

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Posted: November 13 2009 at 00:11

Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:

Pekka wrote:

The T wrote:

debrewguy wrote:

i feel sorry for those who don't get fed, or loved.

I also feel bad for people who hate quote pyramids

JLocke

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Posted: November 13 2009 at 00:43

I don't see why it should concern me one way or the other. If somebody wants to think Coldplay is the most original band on earth, who am I to say otherwise? Just because I don't share that opinion doesn't mean I think less of the other person, nor do I feel like they have any business judging what I like. We are all individuals, and we all can't enjoy the same things.

From first-hand experience, I can safely say that the only person who can get a laymen into something new is the laymen themselves. For a very long time, I refused to allow myself to listen to different types of music, but once I let go, and took the plunge, I have loved music ever since.

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Posted: November 13 2009 at 07:49

There are three sort of people. People who understand prog, people who know they won't understand prog and people who don't understand that they don't understand prog (it must be stupid music..!).

I did feel sorry once for people who gave five stars for modern era Merillion albums and stated that they considered it to be prog.

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Posted: November 13 2009 at 08:09

No I don't feel sorry for them. They can't get into prog probably because prog isn't for them, they might enjoy other styles of music just as much as we enjoy prog. Many people aren't looking for complicated music with its strange rythms and weird changes, they do enjoy stuff that's a bit easier to digest. I do feel sorry though for the people who laugh at other music styles or are incredibly biased. There's a lot of nonsense going around about how boring classical music is and that metal is for self-harming people etc. Mostly these things are said by people who listen to music the music that's "hip", but yeah... I feel sorry for their ignorance.

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Posted: November 13 2009 at 08:31

I used to, but then I got over myself. Musical taste is not that important.

I feel sorry for those who are truly pathetic enough to have such a sentiment. Because clearly not only do you care most about music, you care way to much about prog music. And no one else does.

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Posted: November 13 2009 at 08:34

Nah, besides we're winning over new recruits all the time. Big smile

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Posted: November 13 2009 at 13:11

there's only three kind of people who love prog - those who can count, and those who can't Cool

"Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.

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Posted: November 13 2009 at 13:19

stonebeard wrote:

I used to, but then I got over myself. Musical taste is not that important.

I think you're overstating the strength of the emotions of the OP.

Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me that he's only describing what would be natural for anyone who really enjoys something: don't you want other people to enjoy it as well? I don't think that's a problem unless you're really into Naruto or something.

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Posted: November 13 2009 at 15:45

Depends entirely on what they mean by "not getting prog", and whether the person in question's someone I often discuss music with in the first place. If it is, then if he or she isn't interested in progressive rock then it'll be some other genre the person in question's an expert in and I could probably learn about if I want to.

I also think it should be mentioned that just because someone likes progressive rock doesn't mean that they like the same bands as you do, I say this as there's a lot of prog sub-sub-genres I'm not particularly interested in - at least not right now - which puts some light on how diffuse the entire "genre loyalty" business really is. Actually, I remember being frustrated more often by other progressive rock fans valuing completely different things in prog rock than I do than by people not liking prog rock at all. LOL

(keep in mind that progressive rock only constitutes around 30% of my listening)

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Posted: November 13 2009 at 15:46

^ Exactly Henry. Hasn't everyone here listened to something like Apocalypse 9/8 and just looked around, desperately trying to find someone to share absolute beauty with?

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Posted: November 13 2009 at 15:58

Eh, even when I was into Genesis I never got the love for Apocalypse. As Toaster said, the average prog fan around here values things that are very different from what I value.

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MaxerJ

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Posted: November 13 2009 at 16:01

Well, i was using my own tastes henry... but it's still the same thing

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Posted: November 13 2009 at 19:48

topofsm wrote:

Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:

Pekka wrote:

The T wrote:

debrewguy wrote:

i feel sorry for those who don't get fed, or loved.

I also feel bad for people who hate quote pyramids

The Block

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Posted: November 14 2009 at 08:15

Alberto Muñoz wrote:

topofsm wrote:

Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:

Pekka wrote:

The T wrote:

debrewguy wrote:

i feel sorry for those who don't get fed, or loved.

I also feel bad for people who hate quote pyramids

Those who don't get fed or loved probably don't like prog either.

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The T

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Posted: November 14 2009 at 17:13

The Block wrote:

Alberto Muñoz wrote:

topofsm wrote:

Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:

Pekka wrote:

The T wrote:

debrewguy wrote:

i feel sorry for those who don't get fed, or loved.

I also feel bad for people who hate quote pyramids

Those who don't get fed or loved probably don't like prog either.

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Posted: November 15 2009 at 00:47

Not at all because I think a lot of prog rock fans get too caught up in complexity for complexity's sake. It's not a hard and fast rule that great music must always be difficult to absorb but my general impression is that the worth of something that's simple and beautiful and requires genius to conceive is undervalued here or in any other circle of prog rock fans I have been in. That way, at least the "non-prog'" crowd have not shut doors to a lot of great stuff that prog rock fans wouldn't pay much attention to. Stevie Wonder, for instance. So, yeah, if anything, I feel sorry for people who think music that's complex is automatically great and that which is not is not worth exploring. And I am not saying prog rock fans are the ONLY kind of music listeners who do this but you do see a lot of that in prog circles.