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Negoba
Prog Reviewer
Joined: July 24 2008
Location: Big Muddy
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 10:05 |
No, for they don't have to deal with the strange and peculiar hole that funnels money straight out of their wallets that we do.
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You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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The Truth
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Joined: April 19 2009
Location: Kansas
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Points: 21795
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 10:36 |
People, people, don't make topics like this! People should like their own kind of music just like we like prog
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Vibrationbaby
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Joined: February 13 2004
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 10:45 |
It`s lonely at the top.
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peart_lee_lifeson
Forum Senior Member
Joined: February 22 2009
Location: North Dakota
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Points: 305
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 10:50 |
One can only wish more people knew about prog, but not too many. That would just get annoying. It is kind of nice to keep some secrets to yourself. That being said, I recently spoke about prog in my speech class, but I don't think I really influenced anyone's musical opinion. But, yes, I do feel sorry for those who know nothing about prog. Also, if many more people knew and liked prog, illegal downloading would go way up I believe, and that is not a good thing.
Edited by peart_lee_lifeson - November 12 2009 at 10:51
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TheGazzardian
Prog Reviewer
Joined: August 11 2009
Location: Canada
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Points: 8802
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 11:19 |
I don't feel any pity for them at all, but I feel pity in a different way.
I love many different things, prog rock being among them. But I also love reading (especially historical fiction), taking awesome bike rides, road trips, cooking (Depends on the day), programming video games, etc...and I can get as much joy from most of these hobbies as I can from prog if I am in the mood for them.
There are too many things in life to experience, and there's no way each person can experience each. Each time I go for a bike ride, and experience that thrill, I am denying myself all the other things on that list. And while I have found ways to listen to more prog while I do most of these other things (so that I can enjoy both at once - I will ignore the studies that speak about how multitasking makes both tasks less effective when it's leisure related), sometimes you just want to concentrate on one thing.
So people who don't love prog? They probably have some other activity or hobby in their life that makes them feel just as happy, gives them just as much meaning and excites them just as much. And it may even be cheaper and easier. Just because an experience requires more work doesn't mean that it's a better experience (as much as we love to believe that anything worth having is worth working for).
The only pity I feel is for people who haven't found some hobby that brings them joy. I don't see why prog is any better than any other hobby.
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tamijo
Forum Senior Member
Joined: January 06 2009
Location: Denmark
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 11:23 |
No - Could think of 10.000 reasons to feel sorry for people, even nations, their music preferences just wouldent be the reason.
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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darksideof
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Joined: February 22 2007
Location: Newark N.J.
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 11:43 |
I do!! yes I do
basically because prog makes a more intelligent person don't matter what part of the planet you are from. 
Edited by darksideof - November 12 2009 at 11:44
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ExittheLemming
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Joined: October 19 2007
Location: Penal Colony
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 11:56 |
darksideof wrote:
I do!! yes I do
basically because prog makes a more intelligent person don't matter what part of the planet you are from.  |
I just never got the prog = intelligent equation from the outset. Most of the lyrics and so-called concepts in prog are at best, borderline juvenile/gauche. Tom Verlaine, Lloyd Cole, Bob Dylan and Lou Reed's lyrics contain significantly more sophistication, depth and maturity than most prog (although the music is a lot simpler) Perhaps it's one of those self fulfilling prophecies that run along similar lines to these hefty porkers: All Germans are arrogant - all Dutch people are hippys - all blondes give squeaky toys a bad name - Jon Anderson is unintelligible (so by inference profound) - all Scottish people are mean - people who buy mainstream products are unthinking plankton etc etc I mean come on, ain't this type of stereotyping just designed to make us feel better about our own values, and kinda erm...dumb ?
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The T
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Joined: October 16 2006
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 12:00 |
I feel sorry for those who feel sorry about people "not getting prog"..
One day you'll wake up and realize how irrelevant music is and how stupid it is to suffer about it... (again, with exceptions for those who live off music, who probably better worry about what they do..)
If you're in pain because nobody else likes the music you do... Get a life
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Logan
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 12:05 |
I have felt sorry for people who don't appreciate music, and deaf people who don't have the ability to hear it. But I don't put Prog on a pedestal and think it superior to other forms -- in some ways I commonly think of it as inferior. I can understand those who may think Prog to be a bast**disation of genres it borrows from (for instance, classical music). I think of many times Prog acts have lifted or adapted music by composers greater than themselves (in many cases uncredited).
We as a community don't even find that we like the same music (such a wide variety here, and we have disagreements about what Prog is and what it can be). I might as well be pitied because I don't like Spock's Beard and pity others because they don't enjoy Art Zoyd.
Edited by Logan - November 12 2009 at 12:07
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Slartibartfast
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Joined: April 29 2006
Location: Atlantais
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 12:15 |
Negoba wrote:
No, for they don't have to deal with the strange and peculiar hole that funnels money straight out of their wallets that we do. |
Of course this phenomenon happens to other music fanatics as well.  I must admit I am a bit jealous of those who have decided to stick to '70's prog. It's a closed circuit and the worst you are looking at are remasters.
Edited by Slartibartfast - November 12 2009 at 13:12
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Moogtron III
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Joined: April 26 2005
Location: Belgium
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Points: 10616
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 12:35 |
I do feel sorry for people who don't have the kind of mind - blowing listening experiences that I had with some wonderful music.
But not necessarily that they should listen to prog.
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Slartibartfast
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Joined: April 29 2006
Location: Atlantais
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 13:11 |
Stand up and fight, for you know we are right
We must strike at the lies
That have spread like disease through our minds.
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Some of you are going to die -
Martyrs of course to the freedom that I shall provide.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Synchestra
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Joined: April 07 2009
Location: New Zealand
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 15:02 |
I knew a guy in high school who felt sorry for others because they didn't spend hours a day playing with a yo-yo (although he was pretty amazing) but I bet he's never heard of Pink Floyd
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'Yeah, thats.. Whatever you're talking about for ya' - Zapp brannigan
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Padraic
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Location: Pennsylvania
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 15:06 |
People who don't get prog have plagued our fragile earth for many years.
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meatal
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Joined: September 23 2009
Location: Kelowna
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Points: 94
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 15:09 |
Nope, don't really feel sorry for those who don't get prog, actually made me like it more because it wasn't mainstream and accepted/understood by everyone. Enjoy the fact that those who get it and enjoy it are very dedicated to the style they have chosen to listen to.
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The bitter harvest of a barren land, I'm painting pictures you don't understand.
(Fates Warning)
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J-Man
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Joined: August 07 2008
Location: Philadelphia,PA
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Points: 7826
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 15:12 |
Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:
These kind of topics are really making me hate this site.
You know who I feel sorry for?
People who are pretentious f**king c**ts that think they are above anyone else because they've "heard prog" and others haven't.
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OK then....
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mrcozdude
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Joined: July 25 2007
Location: Devon,UK.
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 15:16 |
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Hercules
Prog Reviewer
Joined: June 14 2007
Location: Near York UK
Status: Offline
Points: 7024
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 17:54 |
I went to do a bit of work at York Uni this week and was listening to Genesis's The Cinema Show over the internet in my room. A youngish (c35) lecturer came in and said "that music really is s**t, Tony".
I resisted my first inclination to throttle him and tried to explain why I liked it, but failed. 10 minutes later I went into HIS room and he was playing.............Take That.
I guess we just have to accept that people have different tastes and ours is no better than anyone else's - just different. As long as you enjoy prog, don't worry what others think.
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A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life.
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Alberto Muņoz
Forum Senior Member
Joined: July 26 2006
Location: Mexico
Status: Offline
Points: 3577
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 18:12 |
Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:
These kind of topics are really making me hate this site.
You know who I feel sorry for? People who are pretentious f**king c**ts that think they are above anyone else because they've "heard prog" and others haven't.
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ditto
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