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Topic: What PA-less Prog album music are we listening to? Posted: October 20 2009 at 12:52
I thought this might be an enjoyable topic -- don't know if it's been done before. This is a place to mention and discuss albums that "you" think are suitable for PA inclusion in one of the so-called Prog categories, and listen to each others music.. It doesn't matter if it's been formally suggested before, or cleared, as long as it's not in the archives. This is a place to share one's enthusiasm for albums that one thinks would fit the Prog categoies without having to to go through some laborious suggestion/ evaluation process as well as having to prepare the addition. None of that, these suggestions are for pleasure. Please try to find a link to streaming tracks/ samples (youtube, myspace etc.), or legal downloads so that we can listen to some of the music.
I'll start with Vannier's L'enfant de assassin des mouches (it has been suggested before). Fabulous album which I've been re-listening to a lot.
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Posted: October 20 2009 at 13:36
Sorry. Can't stream in tracks to support what I'm saying but I think in this case it is not realy necesary.
Talking heads - especialy the albums "Fear of music" and "Remain in light" are examples of complex music, unregular beat (at least at their time), smart lyrics and an artistic attitude which I feel fits in PA very well.
I realy like their music wheather it is concidered prog or not. I recommend listening to these albums.
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Posted: October 20 2009 at 14:13
omri wrote:
Sorry. Can't stream in tracks to support what I'm saying but I think in this case it is not realy necesary.
Talking heads - especialy the albums "Fear of music" and "Remain in light" are examples of complex music, unregular beat (at least at their time), smart lyrics and an artistic attitude which I feel fits in PA very well.
I realy like their music wheather it is concidered prog or not. I recommend listening to these albums.
By the way, very nice idea Logan.
Thanks. Those are very good albums, Omri. Genre-blending,
polirhythms, artsy, quirky, and of course there is Brian Eno'
s contribution, Robert Fripp makes an appearance on Fear of Music and Adrian Belewison Remain in Light. Which
is also neat cause of Belew joining King Crimson (which them had some
very Talking Headsy music like "Elephant Talk"). I love the funkiness
of Remain in Light.
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Posted: October 20 2009 at 14:31
I can't say much about the rest of their albums since I haven't heard them yet, but that one really seems to be good and experimental, influenced by Krautrock, etc.
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Posted: October 20 2009 at 15:35
SaltyJon wrote:
I can't say much about the rest of their albums since I haven't heard them yet, but that one really seems to be good and experimental, influenced by Krautrock, etc.
What on Earth is going on in this album cover? Is her head being pulled out of a cow's arse? Or am I looking at the wrong angle?
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Posted: October 20 2009 at 18:30
John Foxx
I don't think he really belongs in any pre-existing PA subgenre, but it is much more than merely Prog Related since his career has been influential on a countless number of artists, and was influenced by a wide range of Prog and (Art Rock) Prog Related artists such as Neu!, Cluster, Roxy Music/Brian Eno, Bowie and (believe it or not) Pink Floyd...
Starting with a bit of a cheat, because I was the careless fellow who rejected them from Crossover, John Foxx's Ultravox! ... not the Midge Ure led synth-pop version, but the Krautrock influenced punky Art Rock version:
I Want To Be A Machine from their self-titled debut (produced by Steve Lillywhite and Brian Eno)
One of the most "famous" Ultravox! tracks from this era come from their second album "Ha!-Ha!-Ha!"
The Church's version (from "A Box Of Birds") {which sounds far too close to the original to be of any value in my opinion, but nevermind - it's a prog-connection}
by the time of their third album (Foxx's last with the band) the synth-pop sound (and ubiquitous syn-toms) that would make them famous was starting to emerge - though still employing guitars at this stage, here's The Quiet Men from that album ("Systems Of Romance" - produced by Conny Plank)
After leaving Ultravox!, John Foxx embarked on a solo career that initially showcase a stark metalic version of synth pop that was probably too cold and emotionless to make any in-roads into the emerging New Romantic scene that his old band were then finding fame in.
debut solo single, Underpass, from the album "Metamatic" (1980)
Burning Car, single released 1980
For his third album, Foxx moved closer to the warmer synth-pop sound, Europe After The Rain
Endlessly, from "The Golden Section"
Recent live version of The Garden from his 1981 album of the same name:
(then followed a long hiatus from the music scene, where Foxx returned to his former career as a graphic artist)
In 1997 Foxx released the first of what would become a trillogy of electronic/ambient albums called Cathedral Oceans (I, II & III) - live recordings made in various locations in London and Rome. This is Oceanic from "Cathedral Oceans I":
Skyscraper from Tiny Colour Movies
More recently still, Foxx has teamed up with Louis Gordon for a number of albums
He as also worked with Eno collaborator Harold Budd:
and former Cocteau Twin, Robin Guthrie
Anyway, as I said way back at the beginning, I don't think there is an existing category for Foxx in the PA as his Art Rock era wasn't "prog enough" for Crossover and is electronic era is perhaps too ambient for Electronic Prog, but never-the-less, an important artist worth hearing I think. Enjoy (or not - up to you really)
ps: a bit of disposible Prog trivia, this cover artwork was produced by John Foxx during his hiatus from music:
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