What PA-less Prog album music are we listening to?
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Topic: What PA-less Prog album music are we listening to?
Posted By: Logan
Subject: What PA-less Prog album music are we listening to?
Date Posted: October 20 2009 at 12:52
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I thought this might be an enjoyable topic -- don't know if it's been done before. This is a place to mention and discuss albums that "you" think are suitable for PA inclusion in one of the so-called Prog categories, and listen to each others music.. It doesn't matter if it's been formally suggested before, or cleared, as long as it's not in the archives. This is a place to share one's enthusiasm for albums that one thinks would fit the Prog categoies without having to to go through some laborious suggestion/ evaluation process as well as having to prepare the addition. None of that, these suggestions are for pleasure. Please try to find a link to streaming tracks/ samples (youtube, myspace etc.), or legal downloads so that we can listen to some of the music. I'll start with Vannier's L'enfant de assassin des mouches (it has been suggested before). Fabulous album which I've been re-listening to a lot.  This was used for an Yves Saint Laurent fashion show. So let's hear music from your albums choices. |
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: October 20 2009 at 12:55
So this is where I should post my Judas Priest listens?  ------------- 
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 20 2009 at 13:07
Certainly, as long as they're the ones you think are "Prog" (to use that rather nebulous four-letter word). |
rushfan4 wrote:Posted By: omri
Date Posted: October 20 2009 at 13:36
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Sorry. Can't stream in tracks to support what I'm saying but I think in this case it is not realy necesary. Talking heads - especialy the albums "Fear of music" and "Remain in light" are examples of complex music, unregular beat (at least at their time), smart lyrics and an artistic attitude which I feel fits in PA very well. I realy like their music wheather it is concidered prog or not. I recommend listening to these albums. By the way, very nice idea Logan. ------------- omri |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 20 2009 at 14:13
Thanks. Those are very good albums, Omri. Genre-blending, polirhythms, artsy, quirky, and of course there is Brian Eno' s contribution, Robert Fripp makes an appearance on Fear of Music and Adrian Belew is on Remain in Light. Which is also neat cause of Belew joining King Crimson (which them had some very Talking Headsy music like "Elephant Talk"). I love the funkiness of Remain in Light. |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: October 20 2009 at 14:23
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: October 20 2009 at 14:29
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I don't think the band should be here, but this song is definitely progressive. And it's f**king awesome. ------------- "Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value." Arnold Schoenberg |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: October 20 2009 at 14:31
 I can't say much about the rest of their albums since I haven't heard them yet, but that one really seems to be good and experimental, influenced by Krautrock, etc. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Green Shield Stamp
Date Posted: October 20 2009 at 15:35
What on Earth is going on in this album cover? Is her head being pulled out of a cow's arse? Or am I looking at the wrong angle? ------------- Haiku Writing a poem With seventeen syllables Is very diffic.... |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: October 20 2009 at 15:47
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^ Your guess is as good as mine. I've got no clue what's happening there.
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: October 20 2009 at 16:08
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 20 2009 at 18:30
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John Foxx
I don't think he really belongs in any pre-existing PA subgenre, but it is much more than merely Prog Related since his career has been influential on a countless number of artists, and was influenced by a wide range of Prog and (Art Rock) Prog Related artists such as Neu!, Cluster, Roxy Music/Brian Eno, Bowie and (believe it or not) Pink Floyd...
Starting with a bit of a cheat, because I was the careless fellow who rejected them from Crossover, John Foxx's Ultravox! ... not the Midge Ure led synth-pop version, but the Krautrock influenced punky Art Rock version:
I Want To Be A Machine from their self-titled debut (produced by Steve Lillywhite and Brian Eno)
One of the most "famous" Ultravox! tracks from this era come from their second album "Ha!-Ha!-Ha!"
The Church's version (from "A Box Of Birds") {which sounds far too close to the original to be of any value in my opinion, but nevermind - it's a prog-connection}
by the time of their third album (Foxx's last with the band) the synth-pop sound (and ubiquitous syn-toms) that would make them famous was starting to emerge - though still employing guitars at this stage, here's The Quiet Men from that album ("Systems Of Romance" - produced by Conny Plank)
After leaving Ultravox!, John Foxx embarked on a solo career that initially showcase a stark metalic version of synth pop that was probably too cold and emotionless to make any in-roads into the emerging New Romantic scene that his old band were then finding fame in.
debut solo single, Underpass, from the album "Metamatic" (1980)
Burning Car, single released 1980
For his third album, Foxx moved closer to the warmer synth-pop sound, Europe After The Rain
Endlessly, from "The Golden Section"
Recent live version of The Garden from his 1981 album of the same name:
(then followed a long hiatus from the music scene, where Foxx returned to his former career as a graphic artist)
In 1997 Foxx released the first of what would become a trillogy of electronic/ambient albums called Cathedral Oceans (I, II & III) - live recordings made in various locations in London and Rome. This is Oceanic from "Cathedral Oceans I":
Skyscraper from Tiny Colour Movies
More recently still, Foxx has teamed up with Louis Gordon for a number of albums
He as also worked with Eno collaborator Harold Budd:
and former Cocteau Twin, Robin Guthrie
Anyway, as I said way back at the beginning, I don't think there is an existing category for Foxx in the PA as his Art Rock era wasn't "prog enough" for Crossover and is electronic era is perhaps too ambient for Electronic Prog, but never-the-less, an important artist worth hearing I think. Enjoy (or not - up to you really)
ps: a bit of disposible Prog trivia, this cover artwork was produced by John Foxx during his hiatus from music:
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Posted By: pianoman
Date Posted: October 20 2009 at 18:57
Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavillion. An Amazing psychadelic/indie/experimental rock album I highly reccomend. |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: October 20 2009 at 22:38
Right now I'm running through 15 hours worth of my favorite German composer: ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: October 21 2009 at 02:51
I'd go for any of the later Tori Amos albums, but as I'd be getting on everyone's nerves, I won't. 
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Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: October 21 2009 at 02:57
http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/gustavo_montesano/homenaje/"> Let's see... Gustavo Montesano, Gonzalo Farrugia, Anibal Kerpel and Pino Marrone. Yeah, its essentially the third Crucis album. |
Posted By: moe_blunts
Date Posted: October 21 2009 at 10:14
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: October 21 2009 at 12:53
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There are a couple examples from The Flaming Lips' newest album to back up my suggestion. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: LiquidEternity
Date Posted: October 21 2009 at 12:59
What the heck is it with people and posting just an album cover without saying what band or album it is? Seriously?
Here. Try this one on. ------------- 
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: October 21 2009 at 15:02
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BT - This Binary Universe Best album of 2006, either #1, #2, or #3 of best albums of this decade, in my top 5 for best album ever. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: October 23 2009 at 04:45
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One of my markers since 1967 of progressive music has been the fusion of rock with other musics in an innovative way. Gary Lucas with Najma Akhtar's relatively new album Rishte, a fusion of Indian Ghazal, delta blues and rock into 'Indo-blues', hits that button
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/images/B001W8WT4O/sr=8-1/qid=1256290870/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8&n=229816&s=music&qid=1256290870&sr=8-1">
 Likewise Duoud's fusion of North African, heavy rock, electro (and they claim psycho-billy too????), again hits that progressive thing in me, e.g in their album Ping Kong
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/images/B001NZA0L0/sr=1-1/qid=1256291018/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8&n=229816&s=music&qid=1256291018&sr=1-1">  ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: October 23 2009 at 06:06
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I'm a big fan of proggy funk and RnB:
Early Parliament can be incredible thanks to prog rockin keyboardist Bernie Worrell and George Clinton's Zappa influenced sensibilities and arrangements. Earth Wind and Fire's Gratitude album, I saw that tour live and it is my third favorite progressive concert behind Genesis with Bruford and Crimson's double trio. Prince: just listened to the 1999 album the other day, basically it's Kraftwerk topped with bizarre avant gospel vocals. Some things mentioned in other posts include all manner of 20th century composers and late 60s psychedelic jazz-rock. Some others include late 60s blaxploitation soundtracks, especially Isaac Hayes and Quincey Jones, as well as late 60s Italian soundtracks. Also classic Dub Reggae. In current music I think there are a lot of very proggy live electronica jam bands including Pnooma Trio and STS9, as well as drumnbass artists. Oh yeah, King Sunny Ade's psychedelic African groove music with talking drums. |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: October 23 2009 at 06:18
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: October 23 2009 at 08:14
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AIR, the Virgin Suicides soundtrack. Just listen to the last minute from this video: |
Posted By: Alberto Muņoz
Date Posted: October 23 2009 at 16:48
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Sweet sl*g:
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 31 2009 at 10:55
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Various great ones mentioned in this thread. Thank you for all the input, I'll be tracking down some of these and have enjoyed the links to hearing music (though I haven't listened to all of the media yet). While there are a great many to consider, a couple I've mentioned considerable times are Donald Byrd's Electric Byrd (JRF) and William Sheller's Lux Aeterna (guess I'd put William Sheller in Crossover if I thought he were includable, but I don't really, under our guidelines since he has done a lot of pop, though I'd like to say "Where there's a Will, there's a way" -- hahah groan). Byrd's Electric Byrd is a terrific album, but he jumped on the electric Miles/ Bitches Brew bandwagon with this and despite being such a great, imo, jazz-rock album, it's an anomalous album from this be-bop jazz great (may be his last great album). If he we had a category for appropriate albums, rather than artists with complete discographies, then Electric Byrd would be a no-brainer for inclusion. Here is a youtube vid from Electric Byrd which is very good, but if you check out the later link, which has the album streaming, it has a particular favourite JRF track of mine, "Estavanico", which should really appeal to Miles Davis fans. http://www.turntablelab.com/digital/player.html?pid=70816&num=1 - http://www.turntablelab.com/digital/player.html?pid=70816&num=1 As for William Sheller, Lux Aeterna is, imo, a great album that incorporates a choir, an orchestra, and a rock band. He is well known for both his pop music and his classical (to use the term in the broad sense) music. Fabulous arrangements. He was, as I recall, in a musical conservatory studying classical music when he heard Sergeant Pepper's... which had an effect on his direction. Here's the first track from the album: And I include the following just because I really like it, music made for the short film "Excalibur" (I know there's a much higher quality vid of this at youtube if one wanted to watch it in full screen).: Please keep 'em coming. |
Posted By: The Runaway
Date Posted: October 31 2009 at 11:25
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The Churchills - Junkies, Monkies, and donkeys. ------------- http://www.formspring.me/Aragorn224" rel="nofollow - Trendsetter win! The search for nonexistent perfection. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 31 2009 at 11:49
Cool. Here's The Churchills (aka The Churchills Band aka Jericho Jones) myspace: http://www.myspace.com/thechurchills - http://www.myspace.com/thechurchills I'm listening to it now. |