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Ivan_Melgar_M 
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 Posted: June 29 2009 at 10:02 |
 Gianthogweed wrote:
He played keyboards, guitar and bass. I don't want to praise the guy too much because he was a sick and disturbed individual, but his contribution to music was undeniable, if overrated by some. And I wouldn't say his style was opposite to any prog band. |
I haven't seen him performing in any live act.
Not opposite?
Do you believe King Crimson, Gentle Giant, Yes, Genesis, ELP, etc have something in common with him?
Please, the next thing will be somebody askkig "Michael Jackson Prog Related?" Because if he influenced, he can be added to PR.
Iván
Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - July 01 2009 at 10:47
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J-Man
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Posted: June 29 2009 at 11:40 |
Etneciv wrote:
I would say no, but if he did, he didn't influence the right way. |
My thoughts exactly 
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Ukeyful
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Posted: June 29 2009 at 12:01 |
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i guess his 'prog'ressingly bad health ultimately led to his death.
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Evolver
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Posted: June 29 2009 at 12:57 |
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i guess his 'prog'ressingly bad health ultimately led to his death. |
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mattmcl
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Posted: June 29 2009 at 13:02 |
I'm curious. You say
the debate was raging and you "said" MJ had no influence on your kind
of music. When you said that, what did they say? Did anyone say,
"yeah, he probably didn't have much influence in Prague." Seriously, what was their reaction? OP,
where are you?? If I could just get an answer to this question. Then
I can unsubscribe from this crazy thread, so inexplicably misconstrued
by some. Jeez! My coworker claimed that Jackson was the most influential musician since The Beatles, and had influenced every form of rock. I said he didn't influence MY music. The coworker eventually dropped the argument when he realized he hadn't heard of any of the bands I brought up.
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ChitWinterwheat
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Posted: June 29 2009 at 15:27 |
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PLEASSEEE!!! whatever next......Donny Osmond influenced Death Metal?
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Beware the black labrador with hunger and eating on it's mind, for when your back is turned he will pinch the food from your plate.
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Luca Pacchiarini
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Posted: June 29 2009 at 17:28 |
Michael Jackson did for Progressive Rock as much as Adolf Hitler did for world peace.
Not much.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: June 29 2009 at 17:33 |
ChitWinterwheat wrote:
PLEASSEEE!!! whatever next......Donny Osmond influenced Death Metal? |
Iván
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Pekka
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Posted: June 29 2009 at 17:39 |
Gianthogweed wrote:
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Soirry but it's absurd.
Performance: MJ doesn't play a single instrument.
Iván |
He played keyboards, guitar and bass. |
Wikipedia says he played the drums on Beat It, but there's no source. I don't have the booklet here now so I can't check. Anyway, he was capable of playing multiple instruments.
Edited by Keppa4v - June 29 2009 at 17:43
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J-Man
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Posted: June 29 2009 at 18:21 |
ChitWinterwheat wrote:
PLEASSEEE!!! whatever next......Donny Osmond influenced Death Metal?
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Not quite, but we certainly can't deny that Eminem influenced jazz 
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J-Man
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Posted: June 29 2009 at 18:32 |
Keppa4v wrote:
Gianthogweed wrote:
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Soirry but it's absurd.
Performance: MJ doesn't play a single instrument.
Iván |
He played keyboards, guitar and bass. |
Wikipedia says he played the drums on Beat It, but there's no source. I don't have the booklet here now so I can't check. Anyway, he was capable of playing multiple instruments.
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Even if he did play the drums on Beat It, that's nothing. I've never touched a drum kit (or a child for that matter) before and I think I could play the drums on that. That isn't a song that makes me say "Wow this guy's a great drummer!"
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muhamad dlai
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Posted: June 29 2009 at 19:37 |
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maybe the video concept... as a short movie.
but maybe prog influenced his work, i think...
he wasn't a instrument player, as we know..put on. but his ideas and energy in his work enhanced his work...
art works with an crucial element. everything. exclude him can be an error, but i cant see him as a MAIN influence anyway..
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"llrr lrlr rrllrrlrl lrlrrlrlrlrr... at the end are just senseless letters... "
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: June 29 2009 at 21:06 |
Prog Related influenced
Hey, he plays Sabbath, Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple
Iván
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jammun
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Posted: June 29 2009 at 21:16 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Prog Related influenced
Hey, he plays Sabbath, Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple
Iván
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It was only a matter of time before this one made an appearance in this thread 
Edited by jammun - June 29 2009 at 21:17
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Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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Pekka
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 03:14 |
progrocker2244 wrote:
Keppa4v wrote:
Gianthogweed wrote:
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Soirry but it's absurd.
Performance: MJ doesn't play a single instrument.
Iván |
He played keyboards, guitar and bass. |
Wikipedia says he played the drums on Beat It, but there's no source. I don't have the booklet here now so I can't check. Anyway, he was capable of playing multiple instruments.
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Even if he did play the drums on Beat It, that's nothing. I've never touched a drum kit (or a child for that matter) before and I think I could play the drums on that. That isn't a song that makes me say "Wow this guy's a great drummer!"
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That was not the point. Anyway, his music was always groove over complexity, and assuming that he did play drums on Beat It, he was a pretty damn grooving drummer. I don't think I could really nail that beat even though I play drums every day.
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Gianthogweed
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 03:25 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Gianthogweed wrote:
He played keyboards, guitar and bass. I don't want to praise the guy too much because he was a sick and disturbed individual, but his contribution to music was undeniable, if overrated by some. And I wouldn't say his style was opposite to any prog band. |
I haven't seen him performing in any live act.
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He wasn't a virtuoso or anything, but he was a songwriter and lifelong professional musician, it's not surprising that he picked up a few instruments along the way. But he was always a first and foremost a singer and dancer in concert.
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Not opposite?
Do you believe King Crimson, Gentle Giant, Ures, Genesis, ELP, etc have something in common with him?
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Well, they all made their careers in music, and nearly all of those bands delved in pop music. That's something in common, hardly opposite.
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Please, the next thing will be somebody askkig "Michael Jackson Prog Related?" Because if he influenced, he can be added to PR.
Iván
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Everything is related to everything, and everything that came before influenced everything that came after to some degree, whether directly or indirectly. The more popular the artist the larger the influence. It's pretty unavoidable. Even artists who hated The Beatles were indirectly influenced by them, simply by the fact that they hated them. Same goes for Michael Jackson. But like I said, he was more influenced by prog than the other way around. This doesn't mean he should be added to progarchives. He stuck too close to the pop format musically, and I don't think he should even be considered rock.
Edited by Gianthogweed - June 30 2009 at 03:27
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Evolver
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 06:34 |
progrocker2244 wrote:
ChitWinterwheat wrote:
PLEASSEEE!!! whatever next......Donny Osmond influenced Death Metal? |
Not quite, but we certainly can't deny that Eminem influenced jazz
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That's true. He made jazz vomit.
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Trust me. I know what I'm doing.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 13:27 |
Gianthogweed wrote:
Well, they all made their careers in music, and nearly all of those bands delved in pop music. That's something in common, hardly opposite.
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I insist OPPOSITE, all Michael Jackson's career was Pop, while most of the career oof the above mentioned artists was made in Prog, and even when they had some Pop albums and/or songs, they had absolutely no relation with Michael Jackson's POP
Iván
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SergiUriah
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 17:03 |
I first thought this thread was something as a "crazy joke", but I can´t believe that somebody may dare to state that MJ has really influenced prog music.
As someone said in the beginning of this thread: WTF? 
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Conor Fynes
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 19:27 |
Question: Did Michael Jackson influence prog?
Answer: LOL
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