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Direct Link To This Post Topic: Will the world end in 2012?
    Posted: May 04 2009 at 19:05
The most recent discussion on this topic is a year old, so I thought I'd start a new one.

This comes up a lot. How the long count calendar ends 12-21-2012, and some quotes from the bible about when we are near the end. The Yellowstone supervolcano is expected to erupt soon, a nuclear war could happen, population growth could become a problem, and computer intelligence doubles every 1.5 years, so there are a lot of factors going towards the end being near.

Do you believe it will end, and do you care? Do you think it will happen naturally or man-made?

Personally, I think it is a possibility. I think something good could happen 2012. The end of the calendar doesn't necessarily mean an apocalypse. Overall, there are enough factors to make me worry, but I try not to think about it.

Your thoughts?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2009 at 19:09
I don't think will end in our lifetime- Im pretty damn sure of myself too.

If it does end in 2012, I sure hope Rush releases a new album beforehand- I'll die happy.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2009 at 19:13
I hear the world is going to end everyday it may do,it may not.As long as I get to see KC live before it does.Either way nice knowing you *raises beer
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2009 at 19:13
No.

Next question.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2009 at 19:14
It's certainly possible. I guess we'll see on  21-22-2012.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2009 at 19:15
Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

I don't think will end in our lifetime- Im pretty damn sure of myself too.

If it does end in 2012, I sure hope Rush releases a new album beforehand- I'll die happy.


Damn, if we were just 100 years ahead it could end in 2112. That'd be a coincidence speaking of Rush.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2009 at 19:16
Originally posted by mrcozdude mrcozdude wrote:

I hear the world is going to end everyday it may do,it may not.As long as I get to see KC live before it does.Either way nice knowing you *raises beer


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2009 at 19:16
Originally posted by mrcozdude mrcozdude wrote:

I hear the world is going to end everyday it may do,it may not.As long as I get to see KC live before it does.Either way nice knowing you *raises beer
 
I hope we all get to see KC live again. I don't think money is an issue with it, it all depends on the mood Fripp is and if he wants to deal with it all again. We're more likely to see him go solo again rather than in an Crimson incarnation.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2009 at 19:18
The date will pass just like all of the other "apocalyptic" dates over the past centuries, with lots of media hype preceding and lots of people feeling silly afterwards. 

The planet is in the process of a slow death as we speak, with species loss increasing and population levels eventually moving beyond sustainable.  But more people are interested in myths (rapture anyone?) than reversing the human footprint.  I see some evidence that this is changing in young people so I'm trying to be hopeful....we'll see.

But no, don't lose sleep about 2012.  Just remember how many times before people have been convinced about this nonsense, only to wake up the next day (except for the suicide cults!) 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2009 at 19:18
Apocalyptic predictions went out with Nostradamus. Now they're so overrated.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2009 at 19:24
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

The date will pass just like all of the other "apocalyptic" dates over the past centuries, with lots of media hype preceding and lots of people feeling silly afterwards. 

The planet is in the process of a slow death as we speak, with species loss increasing and population levels eventually moving beyond sustainable.  But more people are interested in myths (rapture anyone?) than reversing the human footprint.  I see some evidence that this is changing in young people so I'm trying to be hopeful....we'll see.

But no, don't lose sleep about 2012.  Just remember how many times before people have been convinced about this nonsense, only to wake up the next day (except for the suicide cults!) 


I remember Y2K. It was kind of funny how many people hid in their basements with enough food to last for months, only to find that it a bunch of crap.

I don't think the world will end I'm just considering the possibility. In all fairness, everything has to come to an end...Cry



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2009 at 19:28
Originally posted by progrocker2244 progrocker2244 wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

The date will pass just like all of the other "apocalyptic" dates over the past centuries, with lots of media hype preceding and lots of people feeling silly afterwards. 

The planet is in the process of a slow death as we speak, with species loss increasing and population levels eventually moving beyond sustainable.  But more people are interested in myths (rapture anyone?) than reversing the human footprint.  I see some evidence that this is changing in young people so I'm trying to be hopeful....we'll see.

But no, don't lose sleep about 2012.  Just remember how many times before people have been convinced about this nonsense, only to wake up the next day (except for the suicide cults!) 


I remember Y2K. It was kind of funny how many people hid in their basements with enough food to last for months, only to find that it a bunch of crap.

I don't think the world will end I'm just considering the possibility. In all fairness, everything has to come to an end...Cry





Perhaps, though I'd like to think we could go on indefinitely if we learned sustainability and how to solve the wars issue....eventually moving into other parts of the universe through scientific discovery.  I'm convinced that is possible, but I'm not optimistic enough that humans can pull it off, superstitious, gluttonous, and war-mongering as we tend to be in recent centuries.  Wink


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2009 at 19:52
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Originally posted by progrocker2244 progrocker2244 wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

The date will pass just like all of the other "apocalyptic" dates over the past centuries, with lots of media hype preceding and lots of people feeling silly afterwards. 

The planet is in the process of a slow death as we speak, with species loss increasing and population levels eventually moving beyond sustainable.  But more people are interested in myths (rapture anyone?) than reversing the human footprint.  I see some evidence that this is changing in young people so I'm trying to be hopeful....we'll see.

But no, don't lose sleep about 2012.  Just remember how many times before people have been convinced about this nonsense, only to wake up the next day (except for the suicide cults!) 


I remember Y2K. It was kind of funny how many people hid in their basements with enough food to last for months, only to find that it a bunch of crap.

I don't think the world will end I'm just considering the possibility. In all fairness, everything has to come to an end...Cry





Perhaps, though I'd like to think we could go on indefinitely if we learned sustainability and how to solve the wars issue....eventually moving into other parts of the universe through scientific discovery.  I'm convinced that is possible, but I'm not optimistic enough that humans can pull it off, superstitious, gluttonous, and war-mongering as we tend to be in recent centuries.  Wink


War isn't the problem in the past few centuries. War has been going on as long as people have been on the face of the earth. The problem is, with nuclear weapons, and maybe more deadly ones in the future, we have powerful enough weapons to possibly end the world.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2009 at 20:39
Very true^

But hopefully MAD will keep the nukes in the tank between the big kids.  Fingers crossed.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2009 at 21:34
Originally posted by crimhead crimhead wrote:

Originally posted by mrcozdude mrcozdude wrote:

I hear the world is going to end everyday it may do,it may not.As long as I get to see KC live before it does.Either way nice knowing you *raises beer
 
I hope we all get to see KC live again. I don't think money is an issue with it, it all depends on the mood Fripp is and if he wants to deal with it all again. We're more likely to see him go solo again rather than in an Crimson incarnation.


Perhaps I should write Fripp a letter giving him details on the importance of a KC concert.I can't imagine he receives many fan letters involving KC and the apocalypse.Anyhow about the cults,that's quite a worry this surely is going to be a huge day/year on a cults calendar.I hope nothing comes of it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2009 at 21:38
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

No.

Next question.
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Um..yeah...

Next question: Are you tired of alarmists?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2009 at 21:44
I, for one, will be saddened if it doesn't.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2009 at 21:47
Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

I, for one, will be saddened if it doesn't.
 
Big party at my place 12/20/12. You are all invited.


Sweet,by the sounds of it I should be to bring King Crimson (if Fripp replys to my letter) see above ^
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2009 at 21:51
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

No.

Next question.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2009 at 23:29
It may - it may not. I don't see the point in worrying about it. I'm a fatalist so whatever will be will be and there aint nothing we can do about it!!

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