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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2009 at 06:30
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

I have too much time on my hands.


HAHAHAHAHAHA! The Dark s I de of the Lateralus. Also some hand which I forget what album it's from.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2009 at 14:25
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

I don't find anything that funny in the original pic... it's just a typical progressive-metal pic....
 
Though H. Plainview's adaptation is actually good... LOL
 
Of course, besides that point, is very curious how super-intelligent people dismiss an album before listening to it, just based on one picture....
 
King-by-Tor and CCVP said it right....
 


If you can't find enough info in that image to be able to read what king of music you're gonna get, you should be more worried about your own super-intelligence. Based on that photo I know that DT haven't changed into something I can listen to. Its plain obvious. I can probably teach you how to read images better, if you want to.

Like you say, its a typical progressive-metal pic... for a another typical progressive metal album.
 
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Actually, I wasn't talking about you... I thought we were going to stay away from each other... tsk tsk tsk...terrible Rocky boy terrible....I was. just... throwing words at the wind you know.. 
 
Now please mi amigo teach me how to read images.... I mean, remember: the reading of the image has to tell me, without any shadow of a doubt, what an album will sound like...
 
Teach me my friend... my love.... plants and dogs have a language which you have decoded... now it's the time for pictures!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2009 at 18:00
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

plants and dogs have a language which you have decoded... now it's the time for pictures!


Where the f*ck is his Nobel Prize in Literature???????
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2009 at 19:09
Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

plants and dogs have a language which you have decoded... now it's the time for pictures!


Where the f*ck is his Nobel Prize in Literature???????


hahahhahahha... 

coming back to this.... I have a pic I need to find....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2009 at 19:14
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

micky, I am a novice at Photoshop, really, if you want to be really impressed you need to see some of the shops SomethingAwful pulls off, but your wish is my command.
If you don't like this crop I can do it again, but I thought it looked the best



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you have more talent that I do or else my reign of terror on this site would be even more legendary hahaha

.... now... do that cool thing you did with the lights on the faces...'art' up that bitch.. and I'll use that as promised. No way in hell those faces on in my signature LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2009 at 19:20
you should put a face on everyones shirts haha LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2009 at 19:26
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

plants and dogs have a language which you have decoded... now it's the time for pictures!


Where the f*ck is his Nobel Prize in Literature???????


hahahhahahha... 

coming back to this.... I have a pic I need to find....



now...  time to turn serious...

does Rocky have point... in his own unique plants and dogs language... I think he does...

bear with me....

what is the purpose of that pic...  what did I post something to the effect of earlier in the thread. What has happened to 'art' as being a very important and distinctive subtext of prog. 

 As usual it was a joke... but as usual with a bit of subtle meaning. 

The picture can be seen as symptom of the break down progressive rock.. and 'progressive' rock

why did classic prog appeal to so many people as it did...  it was art.. it was about pushing artistic and musical boundries.   What has prog become today.... genrefied is what it has become (© Micky 2008).   Just as pop, country and other forms of popular music have become.

What is that picture all about... image....image over substance.  It is a targeted appeal to a partcular subset of the listening audience.  How much more effective would that picture have been if there was some 'meaning' to it.   The point in which I think Rocky was right...  was not making a value judgment of the music itself... but telling just what that music IS going to be like, and if you didn't like it before... you sure as hell are not going to like it now.  You can tell from that picture that DT is not going to roll out anything remotely progressive...  take listeners for a real musical ride as musicians of their caliber SHOULD do.

That I think is the point Rocky was trying to make.. could be wrong.... I don't speak plants and dogs... only broken English.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2009 at 23:55

^Interesting Micky... you may have a resemblance of a point here... I mean, you actually try to make it work and sound kind of coherent and you somewhat succeed... even in your "broken English"...

But that doesn't mean, anyway, that the picture (this or ANY other photograph of any other artist, prog-metal or not) can tell whether an album will be good or not. MAYBE, MAYBE it will give you some indication of the style that you can expect to find in the music... but the quality? Really?

Anyway this is of course highly subjective as we all know (except one) and it was my mistake to enter this very intelligent thread, seeing that I also tend to lose some objectivity when people judge DT one way, and then countless other bands another way.
 
My beloved one, R, I tell you again: I don't want to have problems with you ever again, I think we both want that. So stop quoting me unless I say, literally, that you're an idiot. Something that you have said in the past about me, in your very social style... But I will not avoid DT threads only because you appear there, so please, stay out of my way. Heart
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2009 at 05:14

All I'll say is that if the new album is as good as the last one, that will do very nicely for me Approve.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2009 at 07:22
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

 
My beloved one, R, I tell you again: I don't want to have problems with you ever again, I think we both want that. So stop quoting me unless I say, literally, that you're an idiot. Something that you have said in the past about me, in your very social style... But I will not avoid DT threads only because you appear there, so please, stay out of my way. Heart


I can promise you as much as this: I won't quote you unless I think you write something really stupid.

Now let's start our course with a not to difficult task:

What genre do you think this band belongs to?

What do you think the quality of the music will be like? 

And is it likely to appeal to a elitist snob like myself (in an unironic way)?

Any thoughts?



Btw: Obviously Micky (and everyone else) understood my post better than you did.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2009 at 09:18
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

 
My beloved one, R, I tell you again: I don't want to have problems with you ever again, I think we both want that. So stop quoting me unless I say, literally, that you're an idiot. Something that you have said in the past about me, in your very social style... But I will not avoid DT threads only because you appear there, so please, stay out of my way. Heart


I can promise you as much as this: I won't quote you unless I think you write something really stupid.

Now let's start our course with a not to difficult task:

What genre do you think this band belongs to?

What do you think the quality of the music will be like? 

And is it likely to appeal to a elitist snob like myself (in an unironic way)?

Any thoughts?



Btw: Obviously Micky (and everyone else) understood my post better than you did.


let me play....


quality?... sorry Rocky... quality is the eye of the beholder...   show me a Debby Gibson album cover..and I'll show you a great teeny pop album.

genre?  that is akin to asking what the music is like... it is in that that I think you are right... it is damned obvious just what you are going to get with that.. unless the group is a lot more subtle than the cover itself is hahha.  All it is missing is some tits and ass.  It is obviously (forgetting the title) a heavy metal album.

and yes... for someone like you Rocky...a cover like that is an immediate turn off to someone who likes their music more on the 'progressive' or experimental side.  Just as it would for a fan of Faith Hill or whatever the flavor of the week is for hip-hop artists.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2009 at 09:24
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

^Interesting Micky... you may have a resemblance of a point here... I mean, you actually try to make it work and sound kind of coherent and you somewhat succeed... even in your "broken English"...

But that doesn't mean, anyway, that the picture (this or ANY other photograph of any other artist, prog-metal or not) can tell whether an album will be good or not. MAYBE, MAYBE it will give you some indication of the style that you can expect to find in the music... but the quality? Really?

Anyway this is of course highly subjective as we all know (except one) and it was my mistake to enter this very intelligent thread, seeing that I also tend to lose some objectivity when people judge DT one way, and then countless other bands another way.
 
My beloved one, R, I tell you again: I don't want to have problems with you ever again, I think we both want that. So stop quoting me unless I say, literally, that you're an idiot. Something that you have said in the past about me, in your very social style... But I will not avoid DT threads only because you appear there, so please, stay out of my way. Heart


no... I agree... quality has nothing to do with it.  However.. to string the conversation along... if quality was all that mattered.. why don't we review Duran Duran or Pat Benatar albums on this site.  This site is about progressive rock... and what makes progressive rock so good... when artists push the boundries and explore places that they.. or others might not have gone.  By doing another album in the same vein as they have done previous..  or worse...  sounding (and looking hahhaha) like a Metallica wanna-be...  it is then unfair to judge them on  the LACK of progressiveness...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2009 at 09:27
Originally posted by King By-Tor King By-Tor wrote:

Okay, lolz and all aside - why is everyone basing the quality of the music on the new album by the artwork and press photos?

That's just stupid.


If they're pushing a certain aesthetic with the visual aspect of the album, would it be crazy for this to be indicative of the musical aesthetic being pursued as well?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2009 at 09:38
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:




quality?... sorry Rocky... quality is the eye of the beholder...  


An otherwise good post, but: Yawn.

In my first posts I never mentioned quality, though. This was just a question added here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2009 at 09:39
oh sure... think quality was mentioned elsewhere..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2009 at 12:14
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:




quality?... sorry Rocky... quality is the eye of the beholder...  


An otherwise good post, but: Yawn.

In my first posts I never mentioned quality, though. This was just a question added here.


now.. time for you to play... same questions.. different picture...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2009 at 12:37
Ahh yes, I remember the good old days when this was about lens flare and the appropriate placement thereof.

Those were good times huh?

(PS, on the picture above, I totally think the girl on the left is easy, she has that look to her).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2009 at 12:44
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

 
My beloved one, R, I tell you again: I don't want to have problems with you ever again, I think we both want that. So stop quoting me unless I say, literally, that you're an idiot. Something that you have said in the past about me, in your very social style... But I will not avoid DT threads only because you appear there, so please, stay out of my way. Heart


I can promise you as much as this: I won't quote you unless I think you write something really stupid.

Now let's start our course with a not to difficult task:

What genre do you think this band belongs to?

What do you think the quality of the music will be like? 

And is it likely to appeal to a elitist snob like myself (in an unironic way)?

Any thoughts?

(PICTURE)

Btw: Obviously Micky (and everyone else) understood my post better than you did.
 
Oh no my love. I understood it perfectly. I know exactly what motivated you to say that. And it's not musical my one....
 
But if you promise not to quote me "unless you say something really stupid", then you already have said something extremely stupid, because you will be quoting me every now and then, as I take this place more like a relaxing spot rather than the only chance to interact with pseudo-human-beings, which is your view of PA.
 
Which shows that you're already deserving quoting from me... after all, it's a sign of social stupidity to continue to push a road that doesn't take you anywhere with a person that you'll never meet.... But what can I say, it's not your fault My Most Precious One... you can learn only so many social skills from conifers and a cocker spaniel....
 
To end my little gossip session with you Rock, let me just say that the cover you present me is extremely atrocious. It may tell me that the music inside will be metal-ish, kind of Manowar-like... but it still doesn't tell me anything about its quality.
 
And of course, you're right: it will not appeal to an elitist snob like yourself (your words).  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2009 at 12:50
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:


no... I agree... quality has nothing to do with it.  However.. to string the conversation along... if quality was all that mattered.. why don't we review Duran Duran or Pat Benatar albums on this site.  This site is about progressive rock... and what makes progressive rock so good... when artists push the boundries and explore places that they.. or others might not have gone.  By doing another album in the same vein as they have done previous..  or worse...  sounding (and looking hahhaha) like a Metallica wanna-be...  it is then unfair to judge them on  the LACK of progressiveness...
 
Micky, what you say has its coherence. But again, two things: one, people are judging an album in advance for a picture... a PICTURE... couldn't that be more... pretentious, to use a classical prog-word, or even stupid?  Two, if prog artists need to have pictures that also "push boundaries", then I expect we demand the same of all of them... starting with Rush, for example, a band that never changed their style since Moving Pictures, or even Yes, and many many more. There's only a handful of bands which changed and evolved radically from album to album. It would seem only DT HAS to do it or they're ridiculed.... And now we also add the obbligation of hiring a fantastic photographer and an artistic graphic designer! LOL


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hahhahahha...
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