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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2009 at 17:26
It was a real encouragement to the church, to see young people become members. I think I'm the 6th person under 30 to be brought into membership in the past year. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2009 at 17:21
hahhahah....  that must have been quite a moment for him as well Clap.. my father merely took pride in me when I first fired an M-16  and was able to chew Red Man without puking...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2009 at 17:16
And since my dad is the reverend / pastor, the bible verse that is on my membership card begins "therefore, my son..." LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2009 at 17:11
congrats Ben Clap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2009 at 17:06
I was just recently accepted as a member of my church Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2009 at 16:35
Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

I tend to be a soloist, to turn my back to organized religion, but despite this I go to church about 48 or 49 sundays in a year. Te call to be used as "living stones to build a spiritual house" (1 Peter 2:5) urges me to be an active member of a christian community.


I find church attendance (or at least regular fellowship with other believers) highly important because of this:

"Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful; and let us consider how to stimulate one another to love and good deeds, not forsaking our own assembling together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another; and all the more as you see the day drawing near." (Hebrews10:23-25)

It is good for Christians to gather together in order to "provoke one another" to good works, and, when necessary (and always with love and gentleness!), help out when another Christian is struggling with sin or some other situation.

I don't know where I'd be without the support and prayers of other Christians.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2009 at 15:37
I tend to be a soloist, to turn my back to organized religion, but despite this I go to church about 48 or 49 sundays in a year. Te call to be used as "living stones to build a spiritual house" (1 Peter 2:5) urges me to be an active member of a christian community.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2009 at 15:26
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

I've been Catholic my entire life however I'm in a severe questioning phase right now. My faith in God hasn't changed, but currently I hold a negative opinion of him. Which perhaps is worse than atheism in His eyes.

Nice to have a thread like this though. Will definitely be stopping in here.


I went through that myself which led to a break with the Catholic Church ... organized Religion and then God.  As I got older I discovered God in my life again...but have never...will never believe in the notion of Organized Religion.  My faith is my own.. don't need to share it.. nor be told what God wants of me..  if I stray... he'll sure enough tell me in his own way.  I have no doubts as to that hahha. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2009 at 14:37
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

I've been Catholic my entire life however I'm in a severe questioning phase right now. My faith in God hasn't changed, but currently I hold a negative opinion of him. Which perhaps is worse than atheism in His eyes.

Nice to have a thread like this though. Will definitely be stopping in here.


Nice having you-

I've certainly been in your place a few times in my life (particularly around 19-20).  While I certainly don't know the specifics in your life, I can tell you that those negative opinions passed with prayer, study, and surrounding myself with people who genuinely cared about me and my faith.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2009 at 14:19
I've been Catholic my entire life however I'm in a severe questioning phase right now. My faith in God hasn't changed, but currently I hold a negative opinion of him. Which perhaps is worse than atheism in His eyes.

Nice to have a thread like this though. Will definitely be stopping in here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2009 at 14:17

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

 
I feel scared of baseball threads...LOL


Funny you should mention that because baseball is the only sport I am remotely interested in and that may only be due to seeing Hank Aaron make his record in Atlanta as a kid.



Edited by Slartibartfast - March 17 2009 at 14:31
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2009 at 14:14
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

I don't like sports but I don't feel excluded or divided by the sports threads.
 
I feel scared of baseball threads...LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2009 at 14:11
I don't like sports but I don't feel excluded or divided by the sports threads.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2009 at 14:09
Neat idea, Robert.Clap I'll kick my legs back for now and see what happens.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2009 at 14:02
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Oh well... I guess you have the right to create this.... Enjoy. You won't have no debate from me.
 
I guess this is safer... We'll have to create a proper atheist thread to discuss our views without christian (or religious) people dropping in.....
 
Yes... it's safer to divide ourselves.
 
Good luck.


The right?  Well, I suppose it's no different than how Christians have a right to create churches, and atheists are certainly welcome to pop in any given Sunday.

This thread was not a "spinoff" of the atheist bus debate (despite my joke above)- it was honestly something I had been mulling about for some time, and as I know there are a few Christians around here, and since I've been writing some pithy observations and studies on biblical passages, I thought it'd be nice to have this thread.  I'd like to pray for fellow believers in their relationship with God, and I'd like to have the same done for me.

And once again, anyone is welcome here. Smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2009 at 13:42
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Oh well... I guess you have the right to create this.... Enjoy. You won't have no debate from me.
 
I guess this is safer... We'll have to create a proper atheist thread to discuss our views without christian (or religious) people dropping in.....
 
Yes... it's safer to divide ourselves.
 
Good luck.


Rob expressed quite clearly what purpose this thread has, there was no word "debate" until the last line, which falls under restrictions.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2009 at 13:15
Oh well... I guess you have the right to create this.... Enjoy. You won't have no debate from me.
 
I guess this is safer... We'll have to create a proper atheist thread to discuss our views without christian (or religious) people dropping in.....
 
Yes... it's safer to divide ourselves.
 
Good luck.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2009 at 12:29
I promise no comics unless I come across a really good, tasteful, and appropriate one. LOL
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2009 at 12:23
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

First, faith is not "belief without proof;" the Greek word translated "faith" is pistis, and does not allow for such a definition.

The Greek word for grace is charis.  People during biblical times understood faith in God in terms of patronage:

Kudos for acknowledging that the bible was written in Greek (new testament) and of course don't forget Hebrew for the old.  Some things did/do get lost in translation.  For the record, I studied the bible as a teen (prophecy fascinated me the most) , I am not a member of any organized religion, but I firmly believe in doing to others as I would have others do to me.  I do tend to lose respect for those who don't respect my beliefs or lack of. 

Having said that, best of luck with the thread.  I may chime in from time to time with some gems from my studies. Big smile


My "expertise" went it comes to the Bible is Ancient Near Eastern culture (and of course the language is part of it- Hebrew and Greek); years ago when I began studying the Bible in its cultural context (their society is so different from the modern American one), I began to see things in a much clearer light.

Good to see you here, Slart- just keep your comics to yourself.  TongueWinkLOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2009 at 12:15
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

First, faith is not "belief without proof;" the Greek word translated "faith" is pistis, and does not allow for such a definition.

The Greek word for grace is charis.  People during biblical times understood faith in God in terms of patronage:

Kudos for acknowledging that the bible was written in Greek (new testament) and of course don't forget Hebrew for the old.  Some things did/do get lost in translation.  For the record, I studied the bible as a teen (prophecy fascinated me the most) , I am not a member of any organized religion, but I firmly believe in doing to others as I would have others do to me.  I do tend to lose respect for those who don't respect my beliefs or lack of. 

Having said that, best of luck with the thread.  I may chime in from time to time with some gems from my studies. Big smile


Edited by Slartibartfast - March 17 2009 at 12:28
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