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    Posted: February 18 2009 at 09:01

I read in a forum that there have been bands deleted from the archives. Is it possible to see the bands no longer listed? It may be interesting to clarify if an artist is missing for addition or it has been deleted. Thanks 
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I think there's only ever been two at the most, and they were a long time ago. They were deleted soon after they were added, and our processes changed. I can't remember who they were now.
 
Nowadays, it is highly unlikey that a band once added would be removed again due to the robust nature of the admission processes used by our teams.
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Points: 46301 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2009 at 10:21
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

I think there's only ever been two at the most, and they were a long time ago. They were deleted soon after they were added, and our processes changed. I can't remember who they were now.
 
Nowadays, it is highly unlikey that a band once added would be removed again due to the robust nature of the admission processes used by our teams.


I don't think we're talking just two, Bob. Wink

We currently have "4.088 bands & artists" in PA, according to the front page statistic.

Yet the id count for the last added band is 4.307 (David's Lodgers).

Since this id count is specifically designed for a band's entry (webpage), I think we're talking about approximately 200-210 bands/artists who have been deleted, have dissapeared or I don't know what else, but anyway they aren't on PA (anymore).

Sure, we can exclude accidental double entries (in which case the entry was deleted, but the count couldn't be reset), but I still think something happened to at least the abovementioned number of artists.
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We certainly have not removed that sort of number Vic. I think the missing numbers must be down to technicalities such as duplications and internal testing. The only person who can actually delete a band is M@x.
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Points: 46301 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2009 at 12:34
Hm...

Well, a statistic of how many bands we "lost" on the way would be nice to know, even if in numbers only.
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^ I think the numbering all went to peices when we rebuilt the database after the infamous hack of '07 - there's no way we've lost or deleted 200 bands.
 
Anyway - the WayBack Machine is the best bet (http://www.archive.org/index.php)  - though searching through it is difficult and time consuming.
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Man...PA looked... um... different from what it has become.  That's really amazing to see.
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Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Man...PA looked... um... different from what it has become.  That's really amazing to see.

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i know about My dying Bride's case... though I never learned what was the reason for their deletion.... (not that they really fit here anyway...)
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Points: 24429 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2009 at 15:16
I think there was another band in a similar vein that was deleted soon after addition.. I think it was Katatonia. And then, there have been cases of early entries in the DB that have been done away with during some genre team's cleanup, though I don't remember the names now.
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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

i know about My dying Bride's case... though I never learned what was the reason for their deletion.... (not that they really fit here anyway...)
...that was the reason. Wink
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2009 at 15:19
Have not some bands merged too?

I mean those that may have had two entries 'cause they changed their name but are primarily the same band?

I cannot think of an example for the moment.

Syzygy had a different name though and released an album under their first name.
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Points: 15585 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2009 at 15:53
Kaleidoscope become Fairfield Parlour, and appear under a single heading here. Not sure if they were ever separate though.
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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2009 at 16:05
And Second Hand became Chillum.
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I'm pretty sure Neutral Milk Hotel was added and quickly deleted a while back as well.  And there have been a couple of April 1 additions (wasn't Mariah Carey added one April)?
 
 
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Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

We certainly have not removed that sort of number Vic. I think the missing numbers must be down to technicalities such as duplications and internal testing.


psst...

Vic...

that's what they want you to think!

* looks around furtively, starts running *

THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE

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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2009 at 20:20
Originally posted by ClemofNazareth ClemofNazareth wrote:

I'm pretty sure Neutral Milk Hotel was added and quickly deleted a while back as well.  And there have been a couple of April 1 additions (wasn't Mariah Carey added one April)?
 
 


Yes.

That was Joren and Ansen. LOL  William Hung was also added.
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Points: 15585 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2009 at 03:01
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

We certainly have not removed that sort of number Vic. I think the missing numbers must be down to technicalities such as duplications and internal testing.


psst...

Vic...

that's what they want you to think!

* looks around furtively, starts running *

THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE

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Points: 2818 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2009 at 03:35
I seem to recall that Arcade Fire were here for a short while, but were subsequently deleted.
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

^ I think the numbering all went to peices when we rebuilt the database after the infamous hack of '07 - there's no way we've lost or deleted 200 bands.
 
Anyway - the WayBack Machine is the best bet (http://www.archive.org/index.php)  - though searching through it is difficult and time consuming.
 
 
very interesting website -  i looked at PA from March 2006 when i joined, looks very different to today, though "Selling England...." is still listed as most popular album, and Sean Trane is still most prolific reviewer !  Smile
 


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