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JROCHA 
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 Topic: Tool VS The Mars Volta, First 4 albums
Posted: October 02 2008 at 23:16 |
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Two amazing modern Prog bands, which band has the better first 4 outputs.
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Drew
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Posted: October 02 2008 at 23:22 |
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Tool.
Easiest poll EVER.
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: October 02 2008 at 23:24 |
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While all 4 Volta albums are fantastic, Tool's debut is pretty weak. So I'll cast the first vote for TMV.
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: October 02 2008 at 23:52 |
Tool are a very good band, no disrespect to them, but they don't appeal to me all that much anymore (they shouldn't be in my top 20). Plus TMV's better anyway. 
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ProgBagel
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Posted: October 03 2008 at 00:03 |
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TMV I like (a lot) more. I also feel like they progressed further while Tool hasn't.
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Posted: October 03 2008 at 00:11 |
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TMV!!
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Posted: October 03 2008 at 00:12 |
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As much as I think that Undertow wasn't that great I think it's a clean washout for Tool in my mind.
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Walker
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Posted: October 03 2008 at 00:25 |
The Mars Volta.
Easiest poll EVER.
Edited by Walker - October 03 2008 at 00:26
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topofsm
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Posted: October 03 2008 at 01:14 |
I would be a complete liar if I didn't say Tool was far more progressive. I mean Mars Volta uses complicated time signatures, jazz chords, and ambient experimentation. They don't go much farther than that.
Tool, on the other hand, just constantly is making me rethink how I listen to music.
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BroSpence
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Posted: October 03 2008 at 02:42 |
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I love both groups, however I find all four of the TMV albums to be absolutely amazing, while I am not a big fan of Tool's Undertow. I think it has some great songs on it, but overall is not a very good album. They hadn't quite branched out of the California Metal/Alt Rock style.
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The Pessimist
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Posted: October 03 2008 at 02:46 |
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It's a toughy. I think Lateralus and Frances The Mute are two of the best albums ever created by modern prog. But I hate Undertow, and because of TMV's astonishing output on their debut, it's gonna have to be them.
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CryoftheCarrots
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Posted: October 03 2008 at 03:07 |
Unlike everyone else I love Undertow but 10000 days doesn't do it for me.
I love TMV first 2 but lost interest after Amputecture with its rambling sonic awkwardness.
Tool gets the vote. I personaly hope that both bands start to change direction with their next releases.
I want Tool to loosen up and experiment more and TMV to do the oposite!  |
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King Crimson776
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Posted: October 03 2008 at 03:53 |
How is The Mars Volta more progressive... how, name one reason. You can't. That said Tool isn't progressive either, they just happen to not make my brain hurt.
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Posted: October 03 2008 at 06:49 |
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TOOL!!!
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Phil
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Posted: October 03 2008 at 08:56 |
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tough call...TMV on balance as early Toll maybe not so strong...
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Posted: October 03 2008 at 09:10 |
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Mars Volta
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Posted: October 03 2008 at 10:00 |
 CryoftheCarrots wrote:
Unlike everyone else I love Undertow but 10000 days doesn't do it for me.
I love TMV first 2 but lost interest after Amputecture with its rambling sonic awkwardness.
Tool gets the vote. I personaly hope that both bands start to change direction with their next releases.
I want Tool to loosen up and experiment more and TMV to do the oposite! |
I was beginning to think I was the only one! 
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Posted: October 03 2008 at 12:44 |
This is really the battle of the most over-rated bands in PA...  (Yes, I used the damn word)....
Curiously, I have 7 of these 8 albums. I've tried with both of these bands, there's no denying that... (I don't have Undertow).
So:
TOOL
TMV
Amputechture  1/2 Bedlam
Tool wins with me... Their peak was better, and overall, there's always good stuff in their albums... TMV's last two, on the other hand, are just a monument of boredom...
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Norbert
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Posted: October 03 2008 at 13:17 |
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I certainly enjoy the music of The Mars Volta more, but Tool is not a band band either.
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Posted: October 03 2008 at 15:47 |
I've been disappointed by the last TMV so I chose Tool... and 10000 days means so much to me... emotions... things we can't control 
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