World Clock

Proletariat wrote: johnobvious wrote: I'm not sure who this quote comes from "Everyone wants to go to heaven, but no one wants to die."  The earth's natural resources are stretched to the limit, we are living longer and third world countries compound their lack of resources by continually churning out more children.  It boggles my mind when you see people living in squalor, and they go about pumping out kids to what, revel in the enjoyment?  Human existence and our drive to "Go forth and multiply" sometimes clash in my mind. They need the kids to work, you forget that they have to do physical labor and need children to support them when they get old because they dont have any Social Security.

And a lot of them don't have the kind of access developed countries to birth control products as well as education about that kind of stuff.

And 1800 already took care of that...




Edited by Arsillus - July 31 2007 at 10:57

Arsillus wrote: Jim Garten wrote: Hey - at least we're making more bicycles than cars, eh? toolis wrote: a single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is statistics... Joseph Stalin There are lies, damned lies, statistics & the internet... ...still an eye opener, though I'm interested to know where they got those numbers and averages and stuff- the data to back up the clock.

Not to mention the changes in these back up date - in 10 years these will have change significantly for many reasons, including the way they influence each other.
Still - scary...

It's all just evolution.  In the history of the Earth very few dominant species stay dominant for long.  We've achieved a lot but you can be sure that we'll achieve our own demise one day.  Also don't be too upset about the number of species becoming extinct; it's nothing compared to the number that came and went before the time of homo sapiens and it's certain that more new species will evolve after we're gone.  It's very easy to sit in our comfy arm chairs, in our centrally heated houses, watching our flat screen televisions and blame big business and profiteering for the state of the planet; forgetting that it's our consumerism that makes it that way.  But of course it's not us personally, it's everybody else.

Heavyfreight wrote: It's all just evolution.  In the history of the Earth very few dominant species stay dominant for long.  We've achieved a lot but you can be sure that we'll achieve our own demise one day.  Also don't be too upset about the number of species becoming extinct; it's nothing compared to the number that came and went before the time of homo sapiens and it's certain that more new species will evolve after we're gone.  It's very easy to sit in our comfy arm chairs, in our centrally heated houses, watching our flat screen televisions and blame big business and profiteering for the state of the planet; forgetting that it's our consumerism that makes it that way.  But of course it's not us personally, it's everybody else.   I have a slight problem with the subject of conservation.  It's equally as arrogant and interfering to try to save species and preserve habitats as it is to deliberately destroy them.  Who says that we should have the right to decide which creatures to favour and which to disregard.  Man is currently on this planet and whatever the consequences of our actions are they are simply part of this planet's evolutionary path.    Right, now I need a beer.

Maybe being the dominant species entails some responsibility?...not to mention that survival of the human race rests upon our ability to preserve the only home we have.  I refuse to accept that the well-intentioned souls who battle to save our beautiful planet (or once beautiful?) are as arrogant as the self-serving profiteers who rape the land in the name of fortune....and yet there are many who just don't care.  Ask for a small sacrifice:  now that's just absolutely crossing the line. Sure, apathy is a fine attitude...look where it's taken us so far

jimmy_row wrote:   Maybe being the dominant species entails some responsibility?...not to mention that survival of the human race rests upon our ability to preserve the only home we have.  I refuse to accept that the well-intentioned souls who battle to save our beautiful planet (or once beautiful?) are as arrogant as the self-serving profiteers who rape the land in the name of fortune....and yet there are many who just don't care.  Ask for a small sacrifice:  now that's just absolutely crossing the line. Sure, apathy is a fine attitude...look where it's taken us so far

Edited by Heavyfreight - August 01 2007 at 13:18

Heavyfreight wrote: I tend to think that if everyone concentrated on getting their own life in order and stopped worrying about everyone else's then the world might be a better place.

I couldn't agree more! That's why I'm a libertarian.

limeyrob wrote:   This sort of confirms a fact I heard a while ago that there are more people alive today than have died - EVER!!

I heard a fact (?) that from the beginning of the human kind (sapiens) to day approximately 30 000 000 000 lived and died.

GRRRR!!!... Abortionists! They kill their kids, and then even some of them die themselves... man, what are they THINKING??? .

clarke2001 wrote: limeyrob wrote:   This sort of confirms a fact I heard a while ago that there are more people alive today than have died - EVER!! I heard a fact (?) that from the beginning of the human kind (sapiens) to day approximately 30 000 000 000 lived and died.