World Clock
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Topic: World Clock
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Subject: World Clock
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 20:28
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I don't start many topics but my wife found this and I thought it was interesting,pretty cool and a little scary.
http://www.poodwaddle.com/worldclock.swf - http://www.poodwaddle.com/worldclock.swf -------------  |
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Posted By: johnobvious
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 20:33
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So this is saying that there are over 2 people born for each death. Wow. Food for thought but the whole idea of the clock just depresses me. I know the world is in the crapper, but having to look at it like this is not a pleasing idea. ------------- Biggles was in rehab last Saturday |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 20:36
I like the illegal immigration counter.
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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 20:39
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Cardiovascular diseases are the real villain... ------------- Guigo ~~~~~~ |
Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 20:41
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It is very scary indeed. But personally I think that this clock should be in front of every person on this planet right now. Sadly, we need more education and more warnings. I was shocked not by births or death, but by hectares of forest forever gone. That's horrible. While I wrote this post, the number of woods surface in hectares gone is: 91.  ------------- |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 20:42
Yeah
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Posted By: johnobvious
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 20:44
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I'm not sure who this quote comes from "Everyone wants to go to heaven, but no one wants to die." The earth's natural resources are stretched to the limit, we are living longer and third world countries compound their lack of resources by continually churning out more children. It boggles my mind when you see people living in squalor, and they go about pumping out kids to what, revel in the enjoyment? Human existence and our drive to "Go forth and multiply" sometimes clash in my mind.
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Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 20:48
They need the kids to work, you forget that they have to do physical labor and need children to support them when they get old because they dont have any Social Security. ------------- who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob |
johnobvious wrote:Posted By: 1800iareyay
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 20:55
| ^ You're also forgetting the increase of kids amongst the poor in developed nations. The fact is that in developed countries, children are tax write-offs. It's not so much about having a kid ot take care of you so much as a stipend check. This is certainly not always the case, or even usually the case, but it does happen. Plus, poor people are less likely to have had sex education or even the money for protection or birth-control pills. Others still view such as objects as religiously objectionable. There needs to be some world-wide movement to raise awareness for such things (hopefully NOT in the form of a massive concert) before we all end up like China with rampant abortions limitations for teh number of children one can have. |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 21:04
That one shocked me too.
Also,since I initially looked at the clock,3 species have went extinct.  ------------- |
Posted By: johnobvious
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 21:08
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I understand the need for children to work in agricultural situations. And I understand the whole thing is not black and white and there are no easy answers. And I don't want to come off as, "these people need to stop being a burden on the resource hogging US of A." A lot of my frustration comes from the leaders of these countries. Why is so hard to get someone in charge that is decent and will do better by their people instead of living lavishly on the sweat of their people? That is the biggest problem. Why doesn't Kim Jung Il drop dead and someone get in charge who can put the work ethic of the N. Korean people to good use so they can live like people instead of animals. But you know the next a**hole in line will be the same. Would you have a kid if you were a N. Korean? What kind of life is that? Would you have a kid in the middle of the many Civil Wars being waged in Africa? If your answer is yes, I respect that, but I think that is the "food for thought" type of thing I am going for. ------------- Biggles was in rehab last Saturday |
Posted By: 1800iareyay
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 21:12
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 01:10
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The number of abortions is terrible, so is the illegal immigration, that makes me sad jaja ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 01:12
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I think it's an interesting application, but some some counters are scary, others are a bit more useless than you can think of.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 05:39
I' d think this is terribly over-estimated, too! I suspect the line below it makes it a strong anti-choice supporter (I'm not using the pro-life they call themselves, since we know those people don't like life, since they don't care about the mother's intellectual well-being)
But just imagine how much quicker world population would grow if there weren't any.
Can't help but feeling there is some kind of hidden agenda behind this! Beit religious, or installing fears (end of the world etc...) or other motives ........ A lot of these numbers are terrifying (the most are : cars and oil >> I dearly hope bo is for bottles than Barrels of Oil )------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: toolis
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 06:11
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a single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is statistics... Joseph Stalin ------------- -music is like pornography... sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more... -sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue... |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 07:42
Hey - at least we're making more bicycles than cars, eh? 
There are lies, damned lies, statistics & the internet... ...still an eye opener, though  ------------- 
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 07:47
I suppose defending myself is a sure fire way to get this thread closed, but I would appreciate it if you didn't call me an a-hole simply because I think killing babies is immoral. ------------- 
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 08:04
I'll take my word back, because last thing I want to do is start a whole debate on this issue. And I don't want to hurt anyone either.   I believe that each must decide for themselves and let the others do so for themselves. But those calling themselves pro-life are indeed intruding on personal issues that is no business of theirs.------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 08:09
| That is fascinating, as long as it's not 'agenda driven' and is just a source of information. |
Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 10:55
And a lot of them don't have the kind of access developed countries to birth control products as well as education about that kind of stuff. And 1800 already took care of that... |
Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 11:00
I'm interested to know where they got those numbers and averages and stuff- the data to back up the clock. |
Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 11:04
Not to mention the changes in these back up date - in 10 years these will have change significantly for many reasons, including the way they influence each other. Still - scary... ------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 11:06
Oh yeah. Even if there is some sort of agenda behind it, it's still pretty creepy to at least see some sort of representation of all the crap, if you know what I mean. 
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Posted By: Neil
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 14:32
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It's all just evolution. In the history of the Earth very few dominant species stay dominant for long. We've achieved a lot but you can be sure that we'll achieve our own demise one day. Also don't be too upset about the number of species becoming extinct; it's nothing compared to the number that came and went before the time of homo sapiens and it's certain that more new species will evolve after we're gone. It's very easy to sit in our comfy arm chairs, in our centrally heated houses, watching our flat screen televisions and blame big business and profiteering for the state of the planet; forgetting that it's our consumerism that makes it that way. But of course it's not us personally, it's everybody else.
I have a slight problem with the subject of conservation. It's equally as arrogant and interfering to try to save species and preserve habitats as it is to deliberately destroy them. Who says that we should have the right to decide which creatures to favour and which to disregard. Man is currently on this planet and whatever the consequences of our actions are they are simply part of this planet's evolutionary path.
Right, now I need a beer.
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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 14:33
| That's cool, interesting and sad at the same time! |
Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: August 01 2007 at 02:37
...not to mention that survival of the human race rests upon our ability to preserve the only home we have. I refuse to accept that the well-intentioned souls who battle to save our beautiful planet (or once beautiful?) are as arrogant as the self-serving profiteers who rape the land in the name of fortune....and yet there are many who just don't care. Ask for a small sacrifice: now that's just absolutely crossing the line.
Sure, apathy is a fine attitude...look where it's taken us so far
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: August 01 2007 at 03:22
Indeed - to carry the 'clock' analogy forward, if this planet's history to date were to span a single year, humanity (that is to say homo sapiens) only appears in the last second of 31st December; we're just another species that's come along and which will eventually disappear leaving only fossils, a billion tons of plastic bags and The Rolling Stones, who will probably still be touring come Judgement Day. -------------
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Posted By: Neil
Date Posted: August 01 2007 at 13:17
I agree that wanton destruction and waste is irresponsible and no good for us let alone any other species. However I return to my previous argument; who decides what is responsible? Humans basically follow their nature and do what they do. We can try to alter behaviour patterns but that only causes other problems. A fox that gets into a hen run will kill every hen but only eat one. That's not very responsible (or good for their continuing food supply) either but it's what foxes tend to do. We, as a species have a habit of blaming all the planet's problems on ourselves and then setting out trying to solve them, causing more problems in the process.
I tend to think that if everyone concentrated on getting their own life in order and stopped worrying about everyone else's then the world might be a better place. ------------- When people get lost in thought it's often because it's unfamiliar territory. |
Posted By: limeyrob
Date Posted: August 01 2007 at 16:00
This sort of confirms a fact I heard a while ago that there are more people alive today than have died - EVER!!
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: August 01 2007 at 16:08
I couldn't agree more! That's why I'm a libertarian. -------------
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: August 01 2007 at 16:35
That's a bit of an Urban Myth, the best estimate is that slightly over 106 billion people had ever been born - or the dead outnumber the living by a factor of 16.
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa004&articleID=09E07C6F-E7F2-99DF-3AD087F0DA77D94F&ref=rss - http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa004&articleID=09E07C6F-E7F2-99DF-3AD087F0DA77D94F&ref=rss ------------- What? |
Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: August 01 2007 at 16:51
I heard a fact (?) that from the beginning of the human kind (sapiens) to day approximately 30 000 000 000 lived and died. ------------- |
Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 02:10
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Posted By: SoundsofSeasons
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 02:38
GRRRR!!!... Abortionists! They kill their kids, and then even some of them die themselves... man, what are they THINKING???  .------------- 1 Chronicles 13:7-9 Then David and all Israel played music before God with all their might, with singing, on harps, on stringed instruments, on tambourines, on cymbals, and with trumpets. |
Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 02:58
Hehehe, the internet is a source for all kinds of useful information--it's a shame so much of it is false. ;-)
Be responsible: don't spread rumors!
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Posted By: limeyrob
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 13:02
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Posted By: limeyrob
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 13:03
And again
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