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Points: 46833 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2007 at 07:10
thanks for the Battiato reviews Mandy...  have really gotten into him. Looking  to scarf up more of his stuff while here. By the way...  do you want to see Le Orme with us on the 29th, contact Andrea C. He's getting the tickets..

by the way Happy Birthday to Niccolò - Niki ( IO ). In case you drop in today.
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My last two FRANCO BATTIATO reviews:

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FRANCO BATTIATO — Il Vuoto (2007)

Review by Mandrakeroot (Andrea Salvador)
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4%20stars THE EMPTY

Difficult to believe that this is the same Battiato of "Fetus", "Pollution", "Sulle Corde Di Aries" etc. Because with "L'Era Del Cinghiale Bianco" is a new Battiato that it is been born. It has changed genre. From a sort of Post Prog it has begun to produce one risen of Post POP that little to the time it is returned to contaminate itself of the elements of the previous Battiato. In this direction it goes listened to and understood this its new album. It isn't a album Prog. However it isn't a simple POP album. Although the rhythm and the sounds send back to the modern Italian POP in many songs, it is equally true that in "Il Vuoto" or in "Niente è Più Lo Stesso" there is a search much deep one in the feelings of the listener. In "Il Vuoto" it is the Hip Hop to create an empty that is metaphor of our times. In "Niente è Più Lo Stesso" are the lyrics to amplify the romanticism to Peter Hammill who the song transmits. Interesting also "Tiepido Aprile" that one moves on the same coordinates but with piano and orchestra. A lot to Peter Gabriel "The Game Is Over" (also for the sample of "Huhu Namil", that it is typical experiment of Gebriel). It follows "Era L'Inizio Della Primavera", music of P. I. Tchaikowsky and lyrics of Aleksej Tolstoi (with adaptation of Battiato) that, instead, it is 100% Battiato. But what it hits are the deepest lyrics of Battiato, Neo Realistic poetries most difficult to comprise, not sung but recited and the use of electronic samplers and the Royal Philarmonic Orchestra that they create a metaphysical atmosphere able of being cold as the South Pole but warm and moving like the deeper love.

Summarized: "Il Vuoto" it isn't a Prog album. Or better: it is a Prog album. In fact the musical search proposed here it is less definable how much can be described. And if the Prog is also this... And if music is art... Thanks Franco for this emotions.

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FRANCO BATTIATO — Battiato (1977)

Review by Mandrakeroot (Andrea Salvador)
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4%20stars IF THIS IS MUSIC...

If this is music then I am Beethoven or Wagner!!! "Za" is, in fact, a repeated chord with piano, Played without a logical sense. Besides it plays(?!?) only Antonio Ballista. Instead "Café- Table- Musik" (inspired from the "Cofee- Table- Books" of Proust) is an incredible chaos with two parts played with piano, soprano voice, Battiato that performs and parts of pure chaos. It is able it be to define it sets to music? If we can define the abstract music... Certainly.

Summarized: You forget the emotions... Forget. But if the music is able to be abstract... Here a big example.

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And one of Goblin:

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GOBLIN — The Fantastic Voyage Of Goblin (2007)

Review by Mandrakeroot (Andrea Salvador)
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3%20stars FROM "PROFONDO ROSSO" TO "BUIO OMEGA"

Cronological compilation with Goblin's hits. And nothing more. It is not ugly, above all if considered the first two songs ("Mad Puppet's Laughs" and "Profondo Rosso") that they put fear. But in general this compilation doesn't present nothing of so revolutionary. The proposal of the Goblin is very original but in this compilation does not succeed to be proposal because every their disc is a very different speech from the other one. Also because a lot are O.S.T.. But if we appraise the music forgetting this detail... the things change because in general the level is high. Nevertheless the final product is much incomplete. So not within in the merit of a more deepened review because if it's true that the vow in the global judgment it isn't high it's true that it is also a compilation that we cannot judge.

Summarized: Good idea, this compilation. That it's to take care of jealously. But that I don't succeed to judge. Because every vow is taken possession. And because it has indecipherable moments and other exceptionals moments That, nevertheless, it don't allow to understand from where to begin to judge. However it is a compilation that should be used only how introdiction to Goblin.

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Originally posted by Mandrakeroot Mandrakeroot wrote:

Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

I just wonder about one thing in that Le Orme review... Though not the most patriotic person in the world, it's the first time I've heard someone say that Italian is not a beautiful language. The usual take on it is that's one of the world's most beautiful-sounding languages, especially when put to music....Unhappy


To my warning if one is Italian it should sing in Italian...  If it is German in German... If it is Spanish in Spanish... Because so It succeeds to find the just words and the just emotions to express what hung and the feelings. The speech is old but always present and just.  WinkClapCoolThumbs%20UpHeart
 
The Italian lanquage does sound beautiful, alas this is not so with my native tongue ( Dutch). Can you imagine Focus or Earth and Fire singing in Dutch - ugly!!
 
By the way Mandy, have you heard of a group called Brainbox? Not prog but certainly interesting with songs like Dark Rose and Summertime. Jan Akkerman played in the band.
 
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Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

I just wonder about one thing in that Le Orme review... Though not the most patriotic person in the world, it's the first time I've heard someone say that Italian is not a beautiful language. The usual take on it is that's one of the world's most beautiful-sounding languages, especially when put to music....Unhappy


To my warning if one is Italian it should sing in Italian...  If it is German in German... If it is Spanish in Spanish... Because so It succeeds to find the just words and the just emotions to express what hung and the feelings. The speech is old but always present and just.  WinkClapCoolThumbs%20UpHeart
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I just wonder about one thing in that Le Orme review... Though not the most patriotic person in the world, it's the first time I've heard someone say that Italian is not a beautiful language. The usual take on it is that's one of the world's most beautiful-sounding languages, especially when put to music....Unhappy

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Originally posted by memowakeman memowakeman wrote:

Il Sistema???
 
Seems that we have a Dinosaur of RPI which is not in this site, i listened to it, pretty good album...
 
IL SISTEMA

Enzo Merogno (guitar, vocals)
Leonardo Lagorio (flute, sax, electric piano)
Floriano Roggero (organ)
Luciano Cavanna (bass, vocals)
Ciro Perrino (drums, percussion, flute, vocals)

Often described as a quintessential band in late 60's - early 70's italian rock scene, this band from Sanremo gave birth to important bands such as Celeste and Museo Rosenbach.

Il Sistema had a three year career, first as a four piece, then with the fifth member Lagorio joining them in 1971, during which they could not release anything, but some good recordings were finally issued for the first time in 1991 on the double LP Il viaggio senza andata. A good sounding band, though the recordings show an evident lack of production, they were led by the keyboards of Floriano Roggero (like in the 14 minutes long Il pozzo) or the sax and flute of future Celeste member Leonardo Lagorio. 
Classical influences are clear, especially in their good rendition of Mussorgsky's Una notte sul monte calvo (A night on the bare mountain) as well as some similarities with later Museo Rosenbach style, but vocal parts are very limited in the unfinished recordings and the mainly improvised long jams make this an essential album to completists only.

After some relevant live appearances, the band split in 1971, with guitarist Merogno and horn player Lagorio forming Museo Rosenbach, while Perrino (aided by Lagorio again) went later to form Celeste.

 

 

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Il viaggio senza andata M.M. (MMP 100/101) 1991 2 LP - 1969-71 recordings
single sleeve with insert


CD
Il viaggio senza andata Mellow (MMP 101) 1992 1969-71 recordings - different tracks from the LP version

 

Still easy to find at honest prices, Il viaggio senza andata has been issued on both vinyl and CD with different tracks. No foreign issues exist.

Il viaggio senza andata - LP



sounds interesting...  another Celeste connection I see LOL.   If you were to rate it... how many stars on quality... we have much the same tastes I've noticed.
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hahhahahah... A.C.  an interesting review indeed LOLThumbs%20Down
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Originally posted by memowakeman memowakeman wrote:

Found very cheap and bought a Franco Battiato`s album named "Come un Camello in una Grondata", it has only one rating-review by Andrea Parentin, 2 stars is the grade... i will listen to it until tomorrow, but anyway i`d like to ask if anybody else has listened to it and what are your feelings about it.
 
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let me know what you think of it.... I have Fetus through Clic.. and his albums are EVERYWHERE here...  Raff thinks the world of him as a musician and a composer.  The more I hear..the more I love.  She said even his later popish stuff is intelligent and challenging.  THAT is the mark of a great artist hahahhaha.
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Found very cheap and bought a Franco Battiato`s album named "Come un Camello in una Grondata", it has only one rating-review by Andrea Parentin, 2 stars is the grade... i will listen to it until tomorrow, but anyway i`d like to ask if anybody else has listened to it and what are your feelings about it.
 
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Two interesting reviews lately, but for opposite reasons...Wink
 
 
 
 
BANCO%20DEL%20MUTUO%20SOCCORSO%20Live%201980%20progressive%20rock%20album%20and%20reviews Italian Symphonic Prog
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BANCO DEL MUTUO SOCCORSO — Live 1980
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— First review of this album —

4%20stars More and more progheads love to listen to the wonderful Italian prog from the legendary Seventies bands like PFM, Goblin, Le Orme and Banco but unfortunately it’s very hard to find video footage. So I am very glad to introduce this official Banco DVD release to Prog Archives!

I presume it is the Canto Di Primavera album (1979) tour because the tracklist contains the songs E Mi Viene Da Pensare (warm piano work and breathtaking vocals), Interno Citta (swinging rhythm and nice piece of theater) and Circobanda (cheerful atmosphere with Venetian carnival scenes). The band, with an additional percussionist, plays strong and inspired but you have to be up to the more jazzy and funky sound. For example, the ‘classic’ Banco composition R.I.P. has a bit more swinging and less compelling climate and I am nog happy that the final part with the great piano and vocal contribution was deleted during this tour. But there is a lot to enjoy on Banco Live 1980 like many flashy synthesizer flights with a brass-sound (like in Garofano Rosso and Capolinea) and lots of fiery electric guitar soli with jazzy overtones (like in Di Terra and Il Ragno). The final two tracks Non MI Rompete and Circobanda deliver cheerful climates, it’s a pleasant goodbey to a varied DVD, alternating between classic symphonic rock and funk! The running time is not 60 minutes as the label Btf. mentiones but only 45 minute. A nice bonus feature is an interview with Gianni Nocenzi (more than 30 minutes) with an English voice- over, he has many interesting facts to tell. The packaging is lavish including a Banco story in 3,5 pages.

If you have no problems with the jazzy and funky elements and the short running time, this is an Italian progrock document!



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ORME,%20LE%20Felona%20E%20Sorona%20progressive%20rock%20album%20and%20reviews Italian Symphonic Prog
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ORME, LE — Felona E Sorona
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3%20stars Le Orme are one of the most popular italian bands, and "Felona E Sorona" is considered by many to be their best work. They are sort of like an italian ELP, but less bombastic and more symphonic. The keyboard player has much talent and shows it well throughout the record. Bass and drums are also excellent. However, this album was ruined by the poor, poor vocals. They are very strained and have a low range, and since the italian language isn't the most beautiful language to start with, it doesn't work at all to my ears. In many instances it seems like the vocalist is singing in a totally different band, because the music is gentle and lush, while the vocals are strained and overly dramatic.

Songs like "Sospesi Nell Íncredibile" and "Felona" are of the best and show what Le Orme is capable of. However the record suffers short comings in the vocals and awkward arrangements. Like most of the Italian bands of the time, they were two years behind, and less talented. I think it could be greatly enjoyed if you can get past the terrible vocals. A Good addition to a progressive music collection.

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Originally posted by Andrea Cortese Andrea Cortese wrote:

Don't worry, Guillermo! Smile
 
You have the chance to be forgiven by writing another passionate review on Riccardo Zappa as the other three you posted!!!WinkLOL
 
Oh yeah, haven´t been so active regarding reviews lately, but have for sure that Haermea is on my albums to review list, patience Tongue.
 
 

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Don't worry, Guillermo! Smile
 
You have the chance to be forgiven by writing another passionate review on Riccardo Zappa as the other three you posted!!!WinkLOL
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Points: 13032 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 13 2007 at 23:37
Yay great review...Andrea Cortese my apologies i hadn`t give you a reply about Haermea.
Another excellent album, but honestly my love for it was not at the first listen, actually i remember having listened to it 3 times and didn`t enjoy it that much, then i re-listen to it and love it as usual LOL, i love Ursa major

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MASCHERA%20DI%20CERA,%20LA%20LuxAde%20progressive%20rock%20album%20and%20reviews Italian Symphonic Prog
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What an enthousiastic review on LuxAde!
 
Well done, Rivertree!!Clap
 
 
MASCHERA DI CERA, LA — LuxAde
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4%20stars Is this the door to heaven?

Three years after their last studio output the band has made another exciting release with expressive vocals in italian language. Andrea Monetti is convincing adding folk and ethno flavour with sax and flute. You are missing an electric guitar player in the line-up? No problem - Agostino Macor is acting with great variety - for example Fender Rhodes, Mellotron, Hammond, Piano - 'Nuova luce' is a good example. This is symphonic rock music in the majority - mixed with Psychedelic a little bit and Italian Folk.

After a short intro which should open the door to heaven for everyone 'Doppia Imagine' starts. The best song - not all the following songs can reach this quality. The sax theme reminds me of Embryo with Charlie Mariano a lot. The track also consists of remarkable melodies - FANTASTICO! 'Unsensoall impossible' is very melancholic and the beginning of 'Orpheus' sounds like Ian Andersons' TULL. And then you have to take enough time (24 minutes) to lay back with composure enjoying the long track 'Encidica 1168' - consisting of nine sections - indeed another very impressive song.

Conclusion: elegant album including the masterpiece 'Doppia Imagine' - one of my favourite songs in 2006.

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I'm intrigued in go on with my Zappa's collection as well.
 
After Haermea I will order "Riccardo Zappa" and "Minuti"...the main problem is the use of the electronic-drums...fairlight ... remember that Pietro Pellegrini was the official buyer-importer for Italy...
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Originally posted by andrea andrea wrote:

Originally posted by memowakeman memowakeman wrote:

Hey Andrea ( not Cortese and Mandi), seems that you know very well some other lesser known albums by Riccardo Zappa, which one is your favorite?
 
Well, I own a huge collection of guitar solos albums...
My Zappa's favourite ones are "Definire significa limitare" and "Riccardo Zappa's interpreta Johann Sebastian Bach"... Not exactly prog but if you like them try also some stuff of artists like Alex De Grassi, Will Ackerman, Franco Morone, Tommy Emmanuel, Leo Kottke, John Fahey etc... 
 
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Originally posted by memowakeman memowakeman wrote:

Hey Andrea ( not Cortese and Mandi), seems that you know very well some other lesser known albums by Riccardo Zappa, which one is your favorite?
 
Well, I own a huge collection of guitar solos albums...
My Zappa's favourite ones are "Definire significa limitare" and "Riccardo Zappa's interpreta Johann Sebastian Bach"... Not exactly prog but if you like them try also some stuff of artists like Alex De Grassi, Will Ackerman, Franco Morone, Tommy Emmanuel, Leo Kottke, John Fahey etc... 
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Hey Andrea ( not Cortese and Mandi), seems that you know very well some other lesser known albums by Riccardo Zappa, which one is your favorite?

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Originally posted by Andrea Cortese Andrea Cortese wrote:

Why not investigate, andrea?
 
After having read some suggestions for Elio e le Storie Tese I think it would be better to start with this band that I don't know, few tracks apart. As I know it is not prog but I would like to deepen on their burlesque-non-sense vein.
 
Glad to notice your review on Riccardo Zappa!Clap
 
I know the band and I even attended one of their live performances (in 1994)...
No way, they would be in the wrong place here, like Squallor and, IMO, Elio e le Storie Tese (though Elio e le Storie Tese have more quality in their music). 


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Originally posted by Andrea Cortese Andrea Cortese wrote:

Why not investigate, andrea?
 
After having read some suggestions for Elio e le Storie Tese I think it would be better to start with this band that I don't know, few tracks apart. As I know it is not prog but I would like to deepen on their burlesque-non-sense vein.
 
Glad to notice your review on Riccardo Zappa!Clap


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