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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: January 03 2007 at 07:09 |
evenless wrote:
Dear Andrea,
I was very pleased to read the message about NOSOUND that I posted to you on the forum topic: Rock Progressivo Italiano appreciation thread.
I was also very happy to read on www.nosound.net that their forthcoming album "Lightdark" will bereleased in February 2007. I'll make sure I will order their 2nd album as soon as it is available on www.burningshed.co.uk
I just love SOL29 which is also higly recommended by Steven Wilson (Porcupine Tree) and also by Tim Bowness (No-Man).
Once again: highly recommended!
Let me know what you think about them?
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Hi Martijn,
Chamberry of the Psychedelic Prog & Post RockTeams said they're already working on addition, but have been a little slow in additions since Bilek is having some problems with his computer connection.
Bilek is a valuable worker here (and a friend of mine). I'm sure we will hear soon from them.
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Posted: January 03 2007 at 08:15 |
I just looked down the Italian Symphonic list and I'm impressed by how organized it is, and the track titles seem to be consistently capitalized for the european style. I also accidentally came away with a desire to investigate Biglietto per l'Inferno, Corte dei Miracoli and La Bambibande e Melodie, so good work.
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: January 03 2007 at 08:22 |
laplace wrote:
I just looked down the Italian Symphonic list and I'm impressed by how organized it is, and the track titles seem to be consistently capitalized for the european style. I also accidentally came away with a desire to investigate Biglietto per l'Inferno, Corte dei Miracoli and La Bambibande e Melodie, so good work.  |
Other very interesting group to investigate (and that I advise to all) are also:
Opus Avantra
Area
Perigeo
Formula tre
Il Baricentro
Delirium
Aktuala
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Posted: January 03 2007 at 14:14 |
laplace wrote:
I just looked down the Italian Symphonic list and I'm impressed by how organized it is, and the track titles seem to be consistently capitalized for the european style. I also accidentally came away with a desire to investigate Biglietto per l'Inferno, Corte dei Miracoli and La Bambibande e Melodie, so good work.  |
MANDRAKEROOT wrote:
Other very interesting group to investigate (and that I advise to all) are also:
Opus Avantra
Area
Perigeo
Formula tre
Il Baricentro
Delirium
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Thanks, those seem like good suggestions. I'm already familiar with Area and in love with Opus Avantra. Out of interest, which of these are available in CD format?
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Posted: January 03 2007 at 17:44 |
laplace wrote:
laplace wrote:
I just looked down the Italian Symphonic list and I'm impressed by how organized it is, and the track titles seem to be consistently capitalized for the european style. I also accidentally came away with a desire to investigate Biglietto per l'Inferno, Corte dei Miracoli and La Bambibande e Melodie, so good work.  |
MANDRAKEROOT wrote:
Other very interesting group to investigate (and that I advise to all) are also:
Opus Avantra
Area
Perigeo
Formula tre
Il Baricentro
Delirium
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Thanks, those seem like good suggestions. I'm already familiar with Area and in love with Opus Avantra. Out of interest, which of these are available in CD format?
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All the bands above mentioned are available in cd format. 
Good choice on Biglietto per l'Inferno and Corte dei Miracoli, btw!  I prefer Corte dei Miracoli: excellent (late) symphonic prog with two keyboardists. Not as complex and compelling as Banco or Il Volo, though, but very pleasant music! 
Edited by Andrea Cortese - January 03 2007 at 17:46
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: January 04 2007 at 05:31 |
FOR COLLECTORS: This is the cover of RICCARDO COCCIANTE "MU" (first press):
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Posted: January 04 2007 at 09:44 |
To our Italian collaborators primarily (or anyone else if they've heard these)
I just ordered "Arcimboldo" by Ricky Bianco and "Una Radura" by Gianna Nannini from www.btf.it. This was mainly because they were cheap and I was buying some more PFM and I noticed that PFM were the session men on these two albums.
They haven't arrived yet and I have absolutely no idea what to expect from these two artists. BTF classify them as 'rock' rather than 'progressive'.
Any ideas?
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: January 06 2007 at 05:59 |
^^^
Hi Jeff,
I know Gianna Nannini. Not her first works, though. She's a melodic mainstream rock singer-songwriter. But, who knows, it could be a nice surprise. Let me know.
Of Ricky Gianco (real name Riccardo Sanna): he was founder of I Dik Dik.
Arcimboldo (1978) - Arcimboldo is the famous painter of the seventieth century - features, as guest musicians, PFM!!! but I still haven't listened to it. It's considered as his best solo work and looking on the fact of such a participation of PFM, it should be of interest for any lover of rock progressivo italiano. Very interesting. Thanks.
Edited by Andrea Cortese - January 06 2007 at 06:04
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Posted: January 06 2007 at 10:49 |
OPUS AVANTRA — Venetia Et Anima (by Donella Del Monaco & Paolo Troncon; Opus Avantra)Review by MANDRAKEROOT (Andrea Salvador)
NELL'ETERNO DEL PRESENTE (IN THE ETERNAL OF THE PRESENT)
This new project to signature Opus Avantra (but credited to Donella Del Monaco and Paolo Troncon; Opus Avantra Ensemble) a lot had me make curious. I should say that renewed it formation gave back the music of Opus Avantra a lot more accessible. Besides Donella Del Monaco can express itself finally to the better one having uncovered that this theories on the song produced some followers, how writes in the booklet. As for the music there is not moment of Yielding. the better things is "Nell'Eterno Del Presente" being able and mystic. This Romance Rock contains overal the way to sing of Donella Del Monaco and it is not understood if wants raise to true art the POP song of if wants to carry in the POP it on splendid voice of soprano (finally recognize the teachings of the uncle, the famous tenor Mario Del Monaco). "Canto De Cielo" is except for exciting but it is listenned to that is a pleasure. And later recovers the tradition of Patriarcato di Aquileia in "Ave Gloriosa" and "Verbum Bonum" even if the music was written by Paolo Troncon. Same procedure for "Ierusalem Celeste" (text of Giacomo da Verona, 13rd Century) and for "El Planto De La Verzene Maria (text of Fra Enselmino da Montebelluna; 14th Century). Then there it is "Aah Venessia", poetry of Andrea Zanzotto writes poetry in Venetian dialect and recited. The magic of this CD is high. 30 years to Donella Del Monaco are wanted us to do to understand. But now it the ransom arrived. And, modestly, "Venetia Et Anima" is a magical CD.
Summarized: Different (but not too much) from the previous album of the Opus Avantra. Finally the project is mature and, thanks to consciousness of to is is not more only in its musical project, Donella Del Monaco sings with an anger and a passion ever listened to first. That it is arrived the moment of the ransom? Also in "Venetia Et Anima" done not wait for Rock music. Only art. And of the true one.
For always yours, Mandrakeroot.
Posted Saturday, January 06, 2007, 10:47 EST | Permanent link
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Posted: January 08 2007 at 11:59 |
ROCK PROGRESSIVO ITALIANO recensions special (part 8)

AREA — Arbeit Macht FreiReview by MANDRAKEROOT (Andrea Salvador)
THE WORKS GIVE BACK FREE
Gruesome title for the debut of the Area. We leave, however, the awkward memories to the Nazism and we discover the music. "Arbeit Macht Frei" plays (I have to be honest) like an Italian version of the East Of Eden, very personal and very different. But always the East Of Eden come me in mind. You came in mind above all in "Consapevolezza" but also in the use of Sumeric sax. In reality it is the voice of Demetrio Stratos the winning arm some group. To listen the second intro of "Luglio, Agosto, Settembre (Nero)" is pure poetry. Demetrio was able to reach the 7000Hz and possessed the gift of triplephonic voice. And in this intro three singers seem because exploits this its feature. But all of the album is extraordinary. It it plays on its voice, the Sumeric sax, Hard Rock and Jazz creating a difficult mix from copy.
Summarized: Excellent debut. It is not easy music to understand because even though is very immediate because is in possess a lot of points where a lot of listenings want us to learn its meaning. To every manner the listening is very easy and gives back this album a millestone of the Italian Prog.
For always yours, Mandrakeroot.
Posted Monday, January 08, 2007, 10:55 EST | Permanent link

ERRATA CORRIGE — Siegfried, il Drago e Altre Storie Review by MANDRAKEROOT (Andrea Salvador)
SIEGFRIED
Excellent album of Soft Prog is album al lot of interesting. Above all it is self produced album (incredible) and printed in 500 copies. Today, thanks to the BTF we can listen to this enormous album. Unfortunately the sequence of the master does not hold account of the sequence of the titles and if do not themeselves the text while the music runs is much problematic to follow the evolution of the tracks. In general well it says that it is an album very interesting and easy to understand, Symphonic and near the POP more than one of the Rock. Best the use of the flute, doing not invade and in a position to give back everything even more Prog. Interesting also the bonus track "Saturday Il Cavaliere", excellent ballad sung in English and with an excellent renaissance parts. Unfortunately the live version (included in the 2002 reprint) has a sound that to define awful is do a compliment!...!
Summarized: If sought the more than atmospheres the power this is an album that you should not lose. Sincerely it is weird than no label had to the period published this masterpiece. And today the BTF overwhelmed this gap!
For always yours, Mandrakeroot.
Posted Monday, January 08, 2007, 11:53 EST | Permanent link
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Posted: January 09 2007 at 16:00 |
Hi prog rock friends.
Today some interesting reviews on italian bands.
First of all I would like to thank Prog-jester for his enthousiastic comment on two Le Orme's albums: L'Infinito (2004) and Piccola Rapsodia dell'Ape (1980). The last one in particular took my attention 'cause my personal rating of this album is two. His review moves me to take another spin to the record but I think it's uncomparable with the previous acoustic glory Florian (1979) (4 stars from me). The two albums are similar but Piccola Rapsodia dell'Ape has a stronger pop influence.
On the other hand I would also thank Erik Neuteboom who really represents the neverending love toward symphonic prog from all the contries of the world, and especially from Italy. It's the first time in my life I've heard to the modern italian band Empire.
Italian Symphonic Prog (Studio Album, 1980) Avg: 3.40/5 from 7 ratings
ORME, LE — Piccola Rapsodia Dell'Ape Review by Prog-jester (Èãîðü)
Yes, five stars. I simply adore it!
While earlier albums show LE ORME's masterity in composing great Symphonic Prog pieces for ELP-like trio, they never fall into bombastic category - LE ORME are Italians and they care for MELODIES first!!! This one is pure brilliance - melodies and emotions. No bombastic keyboards at all - acoustic guitars, violas and pianos...My favourite from them, along with recent "L'Infinito".The opener "Il treno" reminds of BEATLES' "Hello Goodbye" - great! "La mia bianca sposa" is another highlight - pretty memorable chorus and Aldo is stunning with his trembling voice..."Piccola rapsodia dell'ape" is an instrumental,very good - acoustic and pastoral,but partly wild!"Charango" is another step away from Prog,but it is amazing song - quirky and firing, humorous in mood. My favourite here is probably the closing "Buonanotte" - simple lullaby with AWESOME melodic chorus...very peaceful and calm piece, proving that LE ORME are more melodists than bombasters. Highly recommended, especially for those who uncapable to get the genius of "classical" albums - maybe, you should try this one like I did!
Posted Tuesday, January 09, 2007, 07:05 EST | Permanent link
Italian Symphonic Prog (Studio Album, 2004) Avg: 4.13/5 from 15 ratings
ORME, LE — L'infinitoReview by Prog-jester (Èãîðü)
I always got the feeling of "something missed" when I listened to classical LE ORME's albums from 70s (except for tiny Piccola Rapsodi Dell'ape, what a masterpiece!). Now everything on its own places.
Sounding a lot like IQ's "Dark Matter" released the same year, "L'Infinito" is spacy, pompous (in a good way!) and even more melodical then usually ;-) .I've noticed that so many bands release their best albums during later years - just to mention CAMEL, CLEARLIGHT, IQ and Peter Gabriel! Same goes to LE ORME - "L'Infinito" is just stunning and incredible. It has ballads ("La Voce Del Silenzio", "Tra La Luna E Il Sole"), fiery instrumental pieces (" Shanti", "Come Onde Sull'Oceano") ,mini-epics with breath-taking culminations ("Canto","Si Può Immaginare")even sitar-driven song!(" La Ruota Del Cielo"). The sound of Guitar Synth reminds me of Steve Rothery's sound ("Il Tuono E La Luce"). Honorable mention gets the title dramatic piece - "L'Infinito" has one of the best musical themes I heard last years!!! Impatiently waiting for the new one, because "ETERNITY" (English for "L'Infinito") is endlessly beautiful!
A Masterpiece of Progressive Rock and a Must for every fan of it!
Posted Tuesday, January 09, 2007, 07:18 EST | Permanent link
Italian Symphonic Prog (Studio Album, 1994) Avg: 3.25/5 from 2 ratings
EMPIRE — Back to Knowledge Review by erik neuteboom (erik neuteboom) Special Collaborator Symphonic Prog Expert
This is an Italian one shot band that featured the duo formation Syndone (drummer Sburlati and keyboard player Rogani) and female singer Rosanna De Luca. Most of the nine compositions sound fluen and modern with varied keyboards that contain obvious hints from Eddie Jobson and Keith Emerson. The vocals remind me of Annie Lennox. In the track Immortal we can enjoy a guest on guitar and the composition The Nite is based upon the famous classical piece Night On Bald Mountain by Mussorgsky in which the drums sound very powerful and the keyboard play is a tribute to Emerson/Jobson. Despite the poppy overtones in the songs with vocals, this CD is a pleasant effort for keyboard freaks. Rating: 2,5 stars.
First review of this album
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Posted: January 09 2007 at 16:12 |
OK, thanks but I am curious or any Italian proghead is familiar with Il Sistema (still not on Prog Archives)?
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andrea
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Posted: January 09 2007 at 16:12 |
Andrea Cortese wrote:
I would like to thank Prog-jester for his enthousiastic comment on two Le Orme's albums: L'Infinito (2004) and Piccola Rapsodia dell'Ape (1980). The last one in particular took my attention 'cause my personal rating of this album is two. His review moves me to take another spin to the record but I think it's uncomparable with the previous acoustic glory Florian (1979) (4 stars from me). The two albums are similar but Piccola Rapsodia dell'Ape has a stronger pop influence.
Italian Symphonic Prog (Studio Album, 1980) Avg: 3.40/5 from 7 ratings
ORME, LE — Piccola Rapsodia Dell'Ape Review by Prog-jester (Èãîðü)
Yes, five stars. I simply adore it!
While earlier albums show LE ORME's masterity in composing great Symphonic Prog pieces for ELP-like trio, they never fall into bombastic category - LE ORME are Italians and they care for MELODIES first!!! This one is pure brilliance - melodies and emotions. No bombastic keyboards at all - acoustic guitars, violas and pianos...My favourite from them, along with recent "L'Infinito".The opener "Il treno" reminds of BEATLES' "Hello Goodbye" - great! "La mia bianca sposa" is another highlight - pretty memorable chorus and Aldo is stunning with his trembling voice..."Piccola rapsodia dell'ape" is an instrumental,very good - acoustic and pastoral,but partly wild!"Charango" is another step away from Prog,but it is amazing song - quirky and firing, humorous in mood. My favourite here is probably the closing "Buonanotte" - simple lullaby with AWESOME melodic chorus...very peaceful and calm piece, proving that LE ORME are more melodists than bombasters. Highly recommended, especially for those who uncapable to get the genius of "classical" albums - maybe, you should try this one like I did!
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: January 09 2007 at 16:21 |
Thanks, andrea. I've read the article. Very interesting. Impressive work on the translation in the collab section. 
Could you please post the article in the general forum? Many members and aficionados will be happy to read it. Congratulations for the excellent work again. 
I don't know Il Sistema, Erik, and I'm waiting too for some inclusions: Alan Sorrenti, for instance. Riccardo Cocciante's debut is also a valid addition in any italian prog collection. And so, many others...
Edited by Andrea Cortese - January 09 2007 at 16:22
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Posted: January 09 2007 at 16:29 |
I just stumbled upon an interesting Italian band named Id (a big hand for Freud  ) ... also not included, there is some work to do!
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Posted: January 09 2007 at 16:31 |
Andrea Cortese wrote:
Thanks, andrea. I've read the article. Very interesting. Impressive work on the translation in the collab section. 
Could you please post the article in the general forum? Many members and aficionados will be happy to read it. Congratulations for the excellent work again. 
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Thank you... However it's just a drawing, I'm still working on it and before post it in the general forum I would be pleased to have a little feed back from some other collabs...
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: January 09 2007 at 16:35 |
erik neuteboom wrote:
I just stumbled upon an interesting Italian band named Id (a big hand for Freud ) ... also not included, there is some work to do! |
Do you know Nosound, Erik? Another contemporary italian prog band (in 2007 their newest album) still unlisted in this site...
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: January 09 2007 at 16:57 |
In wait that they come resolved the problems for the insertion of the images with Internet Explorer 7 (cursed that time that I did the download) I am able only to say that in Italy there are much Prog bands/ artists how much is big the ignorance of the greater musical critics and the consequent promotion of Prog in Italy.
I will not get tired myself ever of can to say that I do not tolerate I make journeys of 1h 15'/ 1h 30' to buy the CDs of classic albums (70's) and 2h/ 2h 30' to buy the CDs of contemporary/ classic Prog (in this last case I have the luck to do purchase with Andrea Cortese).
Is an inconceivable things that in my town (Pordenone) Eugenio Finardi is cautious 100% Prog when Prog only for the firsts 5 albums (for Cramps) and not even all to 100% they can be defined Art Rock) and that I wanted to order La Maschera Di Cera answered me that do not know where to seek...
I believe that in Italy the Prog have 100000 bands/ artists and as much shopkeepers, musical critics etc... that do not want to admit that the Prog is music like the POP, the Soul (the modern version... But it is Soul music???) or Heavy Metal!!!
Edited by MANDRAKEROOT - January 09 2007 at 17:00
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Posted: January 09 2007 at 19:14 |
ROCK PROGRESSIVO ITALIANO recensions special (part 9)
 No, I did notblunder. This album was recorded in Rome, is a concept on a true story of Naples and therefore I introduce it.
RICK WAKEMAN — Black Knights at the Court of Ferdinand IV
Review by
MANDRAKEROOT
(Andrea Salvador)
STORY
This is one of the better album of the 80's. Rick wakeman meets Mario Fasciano and
decides to produce the umpteeth album discuss from a fantastic (or mythological) story or
legends... And it does not blunder.
The songs are except for Wakeman that in other cases because composed with Fasciano e
Giuseppe Castiglia (And "Umberto II" is written from the alone Fasciano). Nevertheless it
deserves admiration because Wakeman has interested to a lot not English story (or legend)
(and when talks about this type of stories, for an English...) and because in 80's do like
product means to have a lot of courage. And the music becomes a mixed between the
Wakeman's prog and the Neapolitan tradition. That it is not little. The songs are all
attractive but in the mind it is printed it "Neapolitan" "'O Bilancio" that closes an album
unobserved and that if was gone out 15 years before would have had a lot more
happened and consideration.
Surely to rediscover.
For always yours, Mandrakeroot.
Posted Monday, June 26, 2006, 09:49 EST | Permanent link

MAXOPHONE — Maxophone
Review by
MANDRAKEROOT
(Andrea Salvador)
ANOTHER ITALIAN GEM... ANOTHER (of course!!!)
Not easy disc. Substantially very complex even though the songs seem simple. Aged also
too well... It is the Umpteenth gem of the Italian Prog.
How base is left from piano phrasings been derived from the Contemporary Classic Music
(see the Classic Music of "Elzeviro"), brass intervals and Rock (Hard Rock) develop. Since
the initial "C'è Un Paese Al Mondo" the thing appears obvious but is in "Al Mancato
Compleanno Di Una Farfalla" that all this stands out at the ears. Certainly there are flus of
a lot of groups but, simply being a to enough personal music, is obvious crash between
Genesis, Yes, PFM and, above all, Gentle Giant (in the Hard Rock parts with sax). The use
of the organ remember the ELP (above in "Mercanti Di Pazzie" the song more near the
Gentle Giant [pratically is Genle Giant!]).
I do not know if it this disc is the better one for the Italian stage but, surely, is one of the
more "marketable" in other countries.
For always yours, Mandrakeroot.
Posted Monday, June 26, 2006, 05:40 EST | Permanent link

IL BALLETTO DI BRONZO — Ys
Review by
MANDRAKEROOT
(Andrea Salvador)
INCONTRO
With the entry in formation of Gianni Leone the band bears "Ys". and it does center as is an
epochal album.
The sound is ruling from the keyboards of Leone (and from his big voice) and thanks to
rhythmic a lot of Hard Rock does appear everything like a cheerful version of the Dark
Prog... How if the Atomic Rooster decided to do some cover of the PFM! I should say that
all five original songs are attractive but "Introduzione/ Primo Incontro" e "Secondo
Incontro" have a little of magic in more. But they are alone details (negligible). Instead the
bonus track of the CD ("La Tua Casa") is a POP Rock without demands, however attractive.
"Ys" to distance of 34 years plays still fresh and present. And it cannot be lacking in your
discography.
For always yours, Mandrakeroot.
Posted Sunday, June 25, 2006, 18:18 EST | Permanent link

ACQUA FRAGILE — Acqua Fragile
Review by
MANDRAKEROOT
(Andrea Salvador)
ONLY ACQUA FRAGILE
Good group, the Acqua Fragile. Reasonable singing Bernardo Lanzetti, even if more Gabriel
subordinate with respect to Fish (which to my warning is compelled to imitate Gabriel, cause
voice...).
As for the music... It is not badly. Nevertheless it is not immortal. A song farewell the other
and not the case seems me of to cite a piece rather that another one. Certainly it is good
music, an of the better I listened to. To the same time, however, it is a companion of one
thousand journeys in car and not certainly of intense orgasm during an attentive listening.
The fact that not a superior piece to another one is us and to the fact that all adds is POP
Symphonic Pseudo Prog do not admits 5 stars.
For always yours, Mandrakeroot.
Posted Sunday, May 28, 2006, 05:30 EST | Permanent link
Edited by MANDRAKEROOT - January 10 2007 at 05:22
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Posted: January 09 2007 at 21:10 |
I've been looking for Area's Ar(e)azione for a while now but I haven't been able to find it anywhere. Any suggestions?
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