Is closing threads a good solution ...

MikeEnRegalia wrote: Ghost Rider wrote: OK, guys, as this discussion seems to be aimed at me mainly... No, not at all ... I've seen this numerous times on all sorts of topics, by many different admins. I just thought that maybe - by discussing the general problem - another solution can be found.

OK - this is what I would wish for too. I understand that closing the thread was a drastic measure, but believe me, it was the best solution at the time. A closed thread can be easily re-opened, while deleting posts is something that should be done with much more caution. Especially on a Sunday morning (I believe you and I are in the same time zone), when you find yourself alone in doing your task. And it's not about power trips or treating grown people like children either...

MikeEnRegalia wrote: micky wrote: it was a good solution to close it [...] well discussed thread.  How can it be a good solution to delete a good discussion because of a few posts (if we assume that the thread remains closed, just for the sake of this discussion)? I think it's safe to assume that you don't like Progressive Sludge Metal" ... would you also agree to closing the thread if it was about a genre which you like, and if you had put a considerable amount of time into writing posts?

hmmm... how long have you been here.... I assume a hell of a lot longer than I have...


what you are in essence doing is questioning the policies of the admin team  ... GR is not the only one to close threads....  Jody is a undisputed master of it...    this should have been handled in the proper area...  you saw the thread I started in the collab area earlier in regards to the symph team.. things were said... things were resolved.. and the affected parties were able to rejoiin the area... which out having dirty laundry spread out for all to see...   as a ....whatever you are right now... I figure you would know that.. and appreciate that space where these things can be discussed.. amoung those who are involved.. ESPECIALLY when the 'guitlty' parties.. .are collabs themselves....


as far as is it a good solution... as I said before...  the thread to my eyes was wrecked and heading downhill when the terrrible twosome came in and gave not opinions but posts intended to incite and inflame.  That thread was dead the minute it happened.  Anyway in genreal... it is a commen method employed by the admin team....  if it happened to mine.. .I'd start another.. and blame not the admins or the policy.. but those who needlessly try to piss people off and destroy the threads..

philippe wrote: Ok, I leave this forum...no need to  continue all these pointless discussions with a few little-heads...I'm going to take back my initial work here. Each time I use this forum I only hear the same self-indulgent melodies.

your decision I guess....  if you feel like the need to spew venom about something you obviously don't like is worth giving up all the time you've spent here spent here discussing what you DO like   then good luck and come back if you change your mind.   ahhaha.. nice farewell post though... so 'prog' in nature..

I suppose it is very hard to understand that no one here has been taking rather drastic action because they are paladins of one subgenre as opposed to the other. Aforesaid action was taken because of the use of unacceptably strong language towards other members. If any of you think it is acceptable to call other people "littleheads", then I'll just have to accept the fact that we are from different planets...

MikeEnRegalia wrote: Ghost Rider wrote: OK, guys, as this discussion seems to be aimed at me mainly... No, not at all ... I've seen this numerous times on all sorts of topics, by many different admins. I just thought that maybe - by discussing the general problem - another solution can be found.

Atkingani wrote: MikeEnRegalia wrote: Ghost Rider wrote: OK, guys, as this discussion seems to be aimed at me mainly... No, not at all ... I've seen this numerous times on all sorts of topics, by many different admins. I just thought that maybe - by discussing the general problem - another solution can be found.   Sometimes only the deletion or hiding of an abusive post is enough but in other cases when the scene becomes very polluted with agressions being exchanged and a clear deviation from the topic subject the closing is the best choice. Maybe contenders could calm down and re-start the original discussion in another thread.

Starting a new thread means that all the good content of the previous thread is lost. But I guess that's a general problem of forums. They're simply not a good platform for "static" content ... eventually all threads will fade into obscurity.

I didn't read the thread (but I'm curious now, naturally), but I will say this in defense of GR: being a Mod is a tough job, and you'll never please all of the people you "police."

    No matter what side of an opinion I may be on, abusive language, and childish mayhem add nothing to a discussion. It inflames people, and any usefulness of the thread gets lost. I stand behind the moderators for their efforts. The topic can always be started again. I do believe that the more obnoxious posters should be dealt with. It seems to me that there are some habitual offenders, who never face a reprimand.

micky wrote: bhikkhu wrote:    . I do believe that the more obnoxious posters should be dealt with. It seems to me that there are some habitual offenders, who never face a reprimand. hahahha.. I know....

    

I wasn't referring to you buddy (although, I did think of you while writing it ). You're antics are in fun, and don't get specifically abusive. Heck, I'm right there with you a lot of the time.

Easy Livin wrote: mystic fred wrote: i think anybody should be able to express their views here without the fear of interference from mods,        If you wish to participate in an unmoderated forum, you'll need to look elsewhere MF. The admin team will continue to "interfere" when we think people have contravened the rules. We are committed to allowing/supporting/encouraging healthy, even heated debate, as long as it is civil and constructive.   Philippe, you can be your own worst enemy at times. If you would refrain from using abusive terms and names to refer to other members, I'm sure your would provoke useful discussion. The points you make are (almost) always valid, and intended for the betterment of the site. It is such a shame that you choose to detract from them by adding insults and side swipes at the members you feel are in in the wrong. Inevitably people will spend time defending themselves, protesting at your insults, and in the case of the admin team trying to calm things down, when we could all be talking about the points you raise.   Peter, thanks for the support, it is much appreciated!