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Revan 
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Posted: September 19 2005 at 19:23 |
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It's calling my attention that prog bands don't usually take drugs, is
that true? The only time i heard something like that was when Fish said
that Misplaced Childhood's story was created in an "acid treep"
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King of Loss
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Posted: September 19 2005 at 19:28 |
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The Miracle
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Posted: September 19 2005 at 19:29 |
Yes were clean, and so were Tull. Not sure about KC tho.
in general, prog bands use way less drugs than hard rock and metal bands.
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Posted: September 20 2005 at 00:46 |
 The Miracle wrote:
Yes were clean, and so were Tull. Not sure about KC tho.
in general, prog bands use way less drugs than hard rock and metal bands.
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Yes were clean???? Come on...I've heard Squire talk about the drug culture of the band, and let's face it, Jon's been doing coke so long, you could grind him up and snort him and get high. Don't know about Tull, but I'm sure KC tripped the light fantastic quite a few times.
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lunaticviolist
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Posted: September 20 2005 at 01:49 |
The Doctor wrote:
The Miracle wrote:
Yes were clean, and so were Tull. Not sure about KC tho.
in general, prog bands use way less drugs than hard rock and metal bands.
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Yes were clean???? Come on...I've heard Squire talk about the drug culture of the band, and let's face it, Jon's been doing coke so long, you could grind him up and snort him and get high. Don't know about Tull, but I'm sure KC tripped the light fantastic quite a few times.
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I'm sure Tull did not take drugs. Anderson announced at the 1970 Isle of Wight festival something along the lines of "Tear down the fence, score some pot," mocking the hippy culture. I'm sure Yes took drugs. I've read interviews with Jon Anderson about how they smoked pot all the time. Don't know about KC. Frank Zappa didn't take drugs either.
Does anyone know about Genesis and ELP?
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ThrawnTheater
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Posted: September 20 2005 at 02:28 |
I'm pretty sure Yes smoked pot. I remember during their 35th anniversary tour, before Long Distance Runaround, Jon was fooling around on the guitar while talking, and started singing LDR, but changed the lyrics to some pot smoking reference... much to the delight of the Yes crowd!
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Posted: September 20 2005 at 04:18 |
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I don't knopw about that though i''ve heard the same thing........ though you have to consider the fact that while a lot of the classic rockers are dying or already dead....... the number is very minute in the prog world!!!!
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krauthead
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Posted: September 20 2005 at 04:33 |
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Pink Floyd, Amon Düül II, Guru Guru, Ash Ra Tempel, Tangerine Dream, Brainticket, Can, Cosmic Jokers, Gong, hawkwind, Kraftwerk etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. I think most of the band did use drugs in some way...
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Posted: September 20 2005 at 04:35 |
The Miracle wrote:
Yes were clean, and so were Tull. Not sure about KC tho.
in general, prog bands use way less drugs than hard rock and metal bands.
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Yes were complete dopeheads!
Anderson's gibberish lyrics came to him from smoking tea leaves (he actually jokes about this in concert). Squire was quoted recently as TFTO albums concept was due to too much toking!
Most musicians did something (beit alcohol or more elicit stuff) and the prog bands did not escape that anymore than others!
Tull and Zappa being a bit more of an exception...... Drugs were discouraged but those two leaders needed no drugs tobe trippy.... 21%O2 + 78% N2 did the trick for them!
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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TheBarbarian
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Posted: September 20 2005 at 06:27 |
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ELP were fairly regular users of drugs, Keith also used a lot of acid when in the Nice.
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Posted: September 20 2005 at 06:31 |
lunaticviolist wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
The Miracle wrote:
Yes were clean, and so were Tull. Not sure about KC tho.
in general, prog bands use way less drugs than hard rock and metal bands.
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Yes were clean???? Come on...I've heard Squire talk about the drug
culture of the band, and let's face it, Jon's been doing coke so long,
you could grind him up and snort him and get high. Don't know
about Tull, but I'm sure KC tripped the light fantastic quite a few
times.
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I'm sure Tull did not take drugs. Anderson announced at the
1970 Isle of Wight festival something along the lines of "Tear down the
fence, score some pot," mocking the hippy culture. |
Tull were all totally clean. Ian Anderson has been quite vocal about his anti-drug stance.
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Posted: September 20 2005 at 08:02 |
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Guru Guru guitarist Roland Schaeffer answered the question of
"Elektrolurch" Mani Neumeier "Was bedeutet eigentlich der Name Guru
Guru?" ("What does the name Guru Guru mean, by the way?"; this is one
of the questions the Elektrolurch asks the band) with "Täglich
fit mit 2 Gramm sh*t" (a little difficult to translate into English,
but it is as if he said "an apple a day keeps the doctor away", only
replacing "apple" with "2 grams of hashish") on the album "Guru Guru
Live". And they announced they
would now play the "silent trumpet" on stage in one concert, after
which someone with
a trumpet appeared on stage, and into the horn they had stuffed a
gigantic joint. They all took a deep draw, and then they gave the
trumpet to the audience. I know this from tales of my brother, who saw
them on the 1976 or 1977 Brain Festival in Essen (don't know the exact
year at the moment). Also they definitely didn't have a track named
"Der LSD-Marsch" ("The LSD-March") on their first album for nothing.
Gong, Hawkwind and Amon Düül 2 were excessive drug users too. Ash Ra
Tempel and the Cosmic Jokers (basically the same band) were befriended
with LSD-Guru Timothy Leary, which certainly says something about them
too. Let's face it: Most of the early Krautrock is heavily
drug-influenced.
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the dragon
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Posted: September 20 2005 at 08:05 |
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I'm not so sure that ''Yes were clean": rumors says the opposite...
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Still alive...
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Blacksword
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Posted: September 20 2005 at 08:15 |
Tull were 'anti' drugs.
Zappa was 'anti' drugs
Genesis never took them, apart from Phil Collins who admitted smoking weed on one tour.
Yes were all clean living moderate drinking veggies - a part from Wakemen.
Rush didn't like getting battered on tour because they knew they couldn't play as well off their heads.
ELP. Dont know about them, but they acted like they lived on cocaine!
Hawkwind. Now they were perhaps the cleanest living of all. Lemmy in particular hated drugs!
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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sigod
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Posted: September 20 2005 at 08:19 |
Fish can be seen dragging on a spliff off stage just before the encore on the 'Recital Of The Script' DVD/Video.
It looks as though he needed it as well. 
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Off Centre
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Posted: September 20 2005 at 08:45 |
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King Crimson 1969 -1974
I think only Robert Fripp and Michael Giles refrained from using drugs, the rest indulged.
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fender101
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Posted: September 20 2005 at 08:46 |
Are you kidding me?
Quote Mojo Mag
""Me and Dikmik had been up four days on Dexedrine spansules, so we were pretty well bent", Lemmy explains. "But we had this gog at the roundhouse - the one where we recorded Silver Machine - so we had a couple of Mandrax to calm us down. Then it got a bit boring, so we had two black bombers each. We get to the roundhouse and somebody comes up with alot of Bombers, and we take 10 each - a lot. Then someone comes up with some Mandrax, and we were getting very twisted up by now, so we had at least three each to calm us down again. Then someone came up with cocaine, f**king big bags of it, and we thought we'd have some of that. All this time in the dressing room theres constant smoking - we were all blasted out of our heads from dope. And people were producing acid and mescaline. We all had some of that. By the time we come to go onstage me and DikMik are stiff as boards. I said I can't move can you? He went, 'no its great isnt it?' I said what are we gonna do when we cant play? He said ' we'll think of something...."
FUNNY sh*t!!!!
Pink Floyd( have you seen pompei), KC, Yes (Quote Squire "What can I say? We smoked alot of dope" Mojo)
Thats all I can be 100% sure on but I'm sure there are hundreds more.
I think its great - If more bands had done drugs the music would be even better
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Well McGarnical Billy is dead! They slit his throat from ear to ear!
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goose
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Posted: September 20 2005 at 09:45 |
Someone from the original recording KC lineup said something to the effect that drugs weren't anything to do with the band as a whole, that he (the drummer, I think) personally had never taken anything and that he didn't know that anyone else has.
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Posted: September 20 2005 at 10:33 |
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But about Yes, don't you think that all those jokes or allusions are ironic?
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Off Centre
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Posted: September 20 2005 at 12:39 |
goose wrote:
Someone from the original recording KC lineup said
something to the effect that drugs weren't anything to do with the band
as a whole, that he (the drummer, I think) personally had never
taken anything and that he didn't know that anyone else has. |
Read Sid Smiths KC book and all will be revealed.
For a start, Ian McDonald's own diary entries from 1969 mention his drug taking(speed & pot).
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Are drugs less common in prog?
But I'm 100000000% percent sure that Yes, King Crimson and Jethro Tull were big acid treepers! 