Men only?

ProgRockerJDS wrote: Maybe what we need is a whole new generation of parents exposing their children to prog?

My mum used to play Klaus Wunderlich, Max Bygraves and Mrs Mills albums. It certainly didn't influence my musical taste. Don't kids often rebel against their parents' music?

I am playing prog to my 1 year old daughter. We will see if it has any effect. I'll let you all know in 15 years ....

fandango wrote: Blacksword wrote: fandango wrote: Blacksword wrote: fandango wrote: ^^^ Hi Blacksword, no I haven't, but those I have met who have been into Renaissance, felt that the band was synonymous with AH, and didn't rate the earlier stuff as highly...that seams to be borne out by site reviews here and elsewhere. Of course, it would always be worth giving them a try if I see them around cheaply, but my album shopping list since joining this site has been launched into the stratosphere.... Yeah, me too. I'm drowning in good music at the moment. I suppose there are worse ways to go! Relfs Rennaisance were a very different band as far as I can tell. Discovering them is low down on list of things to do. may I suggest you trading in your blur and oasis albums (and most of your girlfriend's while she's out at work...) with a friendly second hand record dealer, somewhere near you? I'll give it some thought! I find it difficult to sell any albums though, even the crap ones. Although if I ever find my vinyl copy of 'No Jacket Required' it may go through the shredder!! I really think you ought to stop right there, before you start admitting to owning Showaddywaddy's Greatest Party Album...just grit your teeth and have a clear out....(you might like to dispose of your old albums too)

No, the Showadywaddy album I had was 'Greatest Hits '74 - '78' I think. The one with 'Personality' on it and 'A little bit of Soap' But hey, I was only 6 years old when my dad got me that, and they had two drummers....just like Genesis!!!

Bob Greece wrote: ProgRockerJDS wrote: Maybe what we need is a whole new generation of parents exposing their children to prog? Don't kids often rebel against their parents' music?

I think it probably depends on the kid's relationship with the parent, along with possibly their genetic makeup. One girl who I used to be friends with in high school(who was a huge Yes fan ) got into them through her parent's, more specifically her dad's, cd collection.

ProgRockerJDS wrote: Maybe what we need is a whole new generation of parents exposing their children to prog?

I'm trying, I'm trying but they just won't listen. Actually, I did manage get my eldest son (who's having drum lessons at school) to watch a Carl Palmer drum solo, and he listened to Moby Dick (studio version) but I couldn't get him to watch Neil Peart's solo on Rush In Rio.

Fritha wrote: This may sound too out there for some of you but I personally think (and I am speaking from own experience of course) that prog and music in general becomes a most wonderful venture once the music is let to speak for itself, rather than being treated the way most people treat it (not only women, mind you): as some sort of musical "mirror" for one's own feelings and thoughts. The purpose of music for these people is not to expose oneself to unprecedented feelings and emotions and thoughts but to get a confirmation of one's feelings by the means of 'safe' music. It is what I would call a self-centered way of listening to music and I certainly adopted it in my teens. It served its purpose, of course, but it also prevented me from exploring music's more hidden splendours... I once read a study online, which dealt with women and prog rock, wish I could find the link again... My take on the subject of women and prog is that there are probably more women into prog than is generally believed, but that for most women listening to prog becomes an intensely private affair due to the lack of social support/social sanction for such an endeavour. Then again, I know better than trying to convert my female friends to the ways of prog, when keeping in mind that most women of my age are way too busy bringing up children and taking care of the household, in addition to working outside the house! Many women lead busy lives, they don't have the time or the energy to really devote themselves to something as abstract as music... Thus they prefer to take the "OC route" as somebody here wrote already  It's the female version of winding down by sprawling on the couch and watching sports so don't be too hard on your ladyfriends and wives! lol

The most clever answer yet, by a woman if I'm not wrong?

This proves that most of the aswerers are wrong (the men are smarter bullsh*t)

Proglover wrote: Guests wrote: because men are smarter? Liking prog music has NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING SMARTER.....lets once and for all drop the elitism. ..........(umm if you were joking..I sincerely apologize....hee hee)

This comment was made by a user called Luke who was ejected from the forum during this thread. His username was subsequently changed to Guests due to this.

Take this piece of wisdom from a feminine, anti-feminist, independant, Prog-loving lady (GOD I love being a proud, self-indulgent bitch at times! ): Your'll find that most women, in their grievance at not having equal rights with men (or so the media and other subtle sources instill in our brains. Penis-envy is seen through adverts aimed at women...mind you so is vagina-envy, at times, for men so the argument can be pushed either way.) just want to be loved and pampered. Corny but true. Hence- not many love-songs= not a  good genre of music for them. And if they are happy-clappy or not very bright then they would (of course) flick away the music as soon as they hear it saying 'that's weird'. Music needs PATIENCE dammit- how many times do I have to highlight that for random people? (Not that I'm getting pissed at anyone on this thread mind you- it's just a constant thing I seem to keep saying to people who Don't Know!) Maybe it's because Classical Music was dug into me -while still a foetus, by my mother, that I love Prog to bits.

I actually find it hillarious that Prog is a guy-dominated thing. My reason? I come from New Zealand...or more specifically... I go to Auckland University. Here- it's the WOMEN who love the Art's and the bizarre things- far moreso than men. In fact, most of the guys here are rough-neck, dumbarse drongos. Men like my boyfriend- who got me into prog- are very rare heavenly creatures. Believe me- he is the ONLY man in this country who deserves to be shagged by me! Okidoki- I see now that last comment was totally ridiculous so know that I'm ONLY putting it here for comic-relief.

By the way- I'm not really 'anti-feminist' as I stated at the start of this post but hardcore feminists, especially here in NZ, DO piss me off quite a bit. Women deserve their rights- sure- but they don't need to crucify men (so to speak). Women are complex beings- men....simple.

Blacksword wrote: Starette wrote: Take this piece of wisdom from a feminine, anti-feminist, independant, Prog-loving lady (GOD I love being a proud, self-indulgent bitch at times! ): Your'll find that most women, in their grievance at not having equal rights with men (or so the media and other subtle sources instill in our brains. Penis-envy is seen through adverts aimed at women...mind you so is vagina-envy, at times, for men so the argument can be pushed either way.) just want to be loved and pampered. Corny but true. Hence- not many love-songs= not a  good genre of music for them. And if they are happy-clappy or not very bright then they would (of course) flick away the music as soon as they hear it saying 'that's weird'. Music needs PATIENCE dammit- how many times do I have to highlight that for random people? (Not that I'm getting pissed at anyone on this thread mind you- it's just a constant thing I seem to keep saying to people who Don't Know!) Maybe it's because Classical Music was dug into me -while still a foetus, by my mother, that I love Prog to bits. I actually find it hillarious that Prog is a guy-dominated thing. My reason? I come from New Zealand...or more specifically... I go to Auckland University. Here- it's the WOMEN who love the Art's and the bizarre things- far moreso than men. In fact, most of the guys here are rough-neck, dumbarse drongos. Men like my boyfriend- who got me into prog- are very rare heavenly creatures. Believe me- he is the ONLY man in this country who deserves to be shagged by me! Okidoki- I see now that last comment was totally ridiculous so know that I'm ONLY putting it here for comic-relief. By the way- I'm not really 'anti-feminist' as I stated at the start of this post but hardcore feminists, especially here in NZ, DO piss me off quite a bit. Women deserve their rights- sure- but they don't need to crucify men (so to speak). Women are complex beings- men....simple. Yes, I find it bizzare that prog is deemed a man thing. The reaction I get to it from most men I know, is that it sounds 'girlie'

well, if you will go round in a flowing cape, with long hair and high healed boots, you are asking for that kinda reaction...