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You mightwant to give us the band's name so one of the collabs can check your observations!!!!

Rating without reviewing is under the scope of collabs. Already , since this morning , the rating space came under the reviewing space. A step forward but maybe still not enough! Time will tell!!

I was always one to say that this top list brought more harm than good. However , I also realize that younger progheads and newbies might find it useful. But it only sheds more lights on the obvious artists and keeps the obscure ones into......obscurity. Only a few obscurities manage to pierce this list (in the lower ranks) so they became less obscure.

Eetu Pellonpää wrote: Does anybody feel the pressure of guild in his/her/it's chest?

I maybe meant "guilt", but I just can't delete such a funny sentence.

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Hangedman wrote: I agree completely, ratings without reviews should be barred.

Totally agree. If you want to sl*g an album at least
have the cojones to explain why - don't just give it
one star and b*gger off.

I'd throw my weight behind the "No review, No Rating" concept to be sure. Too many people just post a 1, or 5 star rating without reviewing. What help is that?

That being said, did collabs really just get the ability to rate without reviewing? I have about 200-300 albums I'd love to rate, but did not want to do it until I can properly review them at the same time. I'd enjoy going on a rating-spree, then add reviews later as I had more itme


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I was to post something about this, but I saw this topic, so I,ll post it here.

The perfect example for this problem is 'Si on avait besoin d'une 5ième saison' by Harmonium. This album has right now an average of 4.50 stars, bu it had like 4.92 not so long ago. Every reviews it got are giving it 5 stars except one, so it clearly seem to be a masterpiece. Some reviews are from some very respectable prog reviewers, Mr. Chantraine even says it's in his Top10, and he has done over 1300 reviews here. But then if you look at the votes:

HARMONIUM Si on avait besoin d'une 5ième Saison ratings (22 entries)

Essential: a masterpiece of progressive music (82%) Excellent addition to any prog music collection (5%) Good, but non-essential (0%) Collectors/fans only (9%) Poor. Only for completionists (5%)

There's 3 recent vote giving this album 1 or 2 stars, and the guys (or the guy) who did that didn't said a word. I suspect a bit the fact that since this album entered in the top100, some people might wanted to low his overall rating to get it down of the top, but that's a suposition. No matter what, I do not accept one of the great album to came out from Québec to receive that kind of stupid treatment.

The band I noticed it happen to was Camel.

Moonmadness, Mirage and A Live Record have all dropped a long way due to (at least, possibly more) one 1* rating with no review.

Dream Theater also get some similar treatment.

Borealis wrote: Tony Fisher wrote: Dream Theater also get some similar treatment. Yes, but they recieve so many more non-worth 5 stars ratings... It's even more unfair, they get a lot better average than what they are worth...

I take it you don't like DT. Well, nor do I very much. But at least I can see what they're trying to do and they do not deserve some of the unthinking flak directed at them by those who take pleasure in hating them (or the sycophantic praise from the fanboys either!).

And I don't object so much to bad ratings of my favourite albums when the person takes the trouble to explain WHY they don't like the album. I still want to kill them, just a lot less painfully.

Tony Fisher wrote: The band I noticed it happen to was Camel. Moonmadness, Mirage and A Live Record have all dropped a long way due to (at least, possibly more) one 1* rating with no review. Dream Theater also get some similar treatment.

It's just happened to The Snow Goose as well today.

Can one of the collabs please see if the same person is doing it?

Good. Thanks.

I seriously think that ONLY reviews should count for ratings and that this could be made retrospective (ie all ratings without reviews should be deleted and disregarded).

For example, Hugues Chantraine gives a 2* review to my favourite album - The Snow Goose. I don't agree with him (I rarely do) but I think he's as entitled to his opinion as I am mine and he does at least justify his rating in his review. So that's fine.

But some little s**t gives several albums a crap rating and hides behind his cloak of anonimity; that gets me mad.

And to the person who suspects I somehow have a guilty conscience, every rating I have given has had a review attached, no exception!

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Anyone know who "jordisubir" is?

Today he has trashed several albums, including classics like Animals and Mirage, with 1* ratings and no reviews. I have not yet found a single rating above this. Is he a punk or similar, out to trash prog??? If so, delete his ratings!!