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addictedtoprog
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Topic: The Prog Side of The Beatles Posted: September 22 2014 at 12:40 |
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<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;"><span style='line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-ansi-: EN;' lang="EN">The Prog movement might never have started if
the Beatles hadn't started experimenting with popular music. So for fun I made my own prog album from The Beatles. Imagine...</span>Happiness is a warm gun <span style='line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-ansi-: EN; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA;' lang="EN">Strawberry field forever</span> <span style='line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-ansi-: EN; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA;' lang="EN">Eleonor Rigby
I am the walrus
A Day in the Life
Helter Skelter
L.S.D</span> <span style='line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-ansi-: EN; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA;' lang="EN">Y<span><span style='line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-font-kerning: 18.0pt; mso-ansi-: EN-CA;'>ou Never Give Me Your Money</span></span></span> <span style='line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-ansi-: EN; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA;' lang="EN">The fool on the hill</span> <span style='line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-ansi-: EN; mso-fareast-: EN-US; mso-bidi-: AR-SA;' lang="EN"><span><span style='line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-font-kerning: 18.0pt; mso-ansi-: EN-CA;'>Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite!<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></span></span></span> <p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;"><span><span style='line-height: 115%; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-font-kerning: 18.0pt; mso-ansi-: FR;' lang="FR">Tomorrow Never Knows</span></span>
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Agree with everything except "THE PROG SIDE OF BEATLES". To me...when we look at their career from beginning to end..there is only thing common among any pair of consecutive albums. And that's "Progression". They were Prog from all sides. The Beatles defined the prog.
Edited by addictedtoprog - September 22 2014 at 12:42
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Posted: September 22 2014 at 12:26 |
They are not Prog Rock or what we define regularly as Prog. Their usage of the mellotron was superb , inventive/creative, and influenced part of the birth of Prog. King Crimson in 69' used to rehearse "Lucy In the Sky With Diamonds" so I attribute their overall influence in the elements/ideas they came up with, (along with George Martin) to produce something unique within a song by using effects and unlike many others who attempted to catch up with The Beatles during the rat race when many bands were trying to sound like Sgt. Pepper. For a while it was almost insulting. It was an influential album, but too many artists were simply out-right copying the style. The Beatles late 60's material presented an idea to combine influences from other styles that were not Rock. The way in which The Beatles produced that as an end product, it became evident to most internationally known artists that they were surrounding the melody unlike anyone before them. The choice to use a sitar, a French Horn, or string quartet to enhance the vocal, creating a style that couldn't always be catagorized as Pop. Maybe years later..it was, but not in 67' when people first heard Sgt. Pepper. What happened later is not any motive on behalf of The Beatles. When it was first released, it felt very strange to people and they were drawn in by it's intensity of sound. That's why it influenced Progressive Rock. It was mainly an aspect to the actual style that produced new ideas in Prog. It was a premature stage .
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Posted: September 03 2014 at 14:28 |
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Posted: August 30 2014 at 10:26 |
There's nothing wrong with including a great non-prog song. Most prog bands have the odd non-prog song.
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Posted: August 29 2014 at 09:56 |
Stool Man wrote:
If I were to compile a Beatles prog album, it might be
Because The Inner Light We Can Work It Out Rain Yellow Submarine You Know My Name Everywhere It's Christmas Revolution 9 (mono) Flying A Day In The Life Hey Bulldog Strawberry fields Forever It's All Too Much
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Good choice on the whole, although I would argue against "We Can Work It Out" - great song but not really prog even if it does change time signatures.
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Posted: August 29 2014 at 09:10 |
If I were to compile a Beatles prog album, it might be
Because The Inner Light We Can Work It Out Rain Yellow Submarine You Know My Name Everywhere It's Christmas Revolution 9 (mono) Flying A Day In The Life Hey Bulldog Strawberry fields Forever It's All Too Much
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Posted: August 28 2014 at 11:01 |
The Beatles are not truly progressive to what the main standard or true definition of what Prog music delivers, but they have a ton of well-thought out progressive tendencies to a few of their albums.
Certainly Sargent Peppers paved the way for a wonderful model of experimentation by fusing eastern cultural music backgrounds into their overall sound while creating some songs that have some incredible changes in direction. Amazing for 1967. I'd say the Beatles, when they put on their Prog hats, are really quite good at it. :)
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Posted: August 26 2014 at 23:52 |
I heard a guy say once that "I want you/she's so heavy" is pure prog. Not sure if I agree with that although it could be considered proto. THe closest the Beatles came to typical prog imo was probably "a day in the life." TO be honest I don't think they did all that much that was similar to the later prog. Although they were very experimental at times I wouldn't really call them prog. That being said they did get the ball rolling and are important in the development of adventurous music that led directly to prog.
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Posted: August 26 2014 at 20:04 |
I have to be honest but I consider "A Day in The Life" and "I Want You "She's So Heavy" as Progressive Rock.
I think certain people need to get over the fact that the same band who wrote "I Want to Hold Your Hand" transformed themselves into the most influential artist in the Progressive Rock movement. Nothing against Zappa but he did not have the wide reach as The Beatles in terms of popularity and influence. I gather more progressive rock musicians were initially influenced by The Beatles to get into music far more than Zappa.
It's no coincidence that Robert Fripp was influenced to get into rock music after hearing "A Day In The Life".
Edited by NYSPORTSFAN - August 26 2014 at 20:06
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Posted: August 24 2014 at 15:10 |
A Day in the Life though
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Posted: August 24 2014 at 11:41 |
dr wu23 wrote:
I don't know why people want to call The Beatles a progressive rock band. |
Who said that? But they were definitely pioneers. And for sure they were more progressive than regressive in the world of music.
Edited by musitron - August 24 2014 at 11:43
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Posted: August 24 2014 at 09:46 |
I don't know why people want to call The Beatles a progressive rock band. They did some 'progressive things' with some of their music and expanded the horizons of what could be done with pop and rock in the studio.
Prog Rock...they ain't.
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Posted: August 23 2014 at 13:08 |
Junges wrote:
In my opinion, there isn't a "Beatles prog side" and I think prog rock would have existed without them anyway.
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Tomorrow Never knows is not Prog? Sod it all, then. I'm out of here.
Edited by SteveG - August 23 2014 at 13:12
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musitron
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Posted: August 23 2014 at 09:34 |
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Posted: August 22 2014 at 23:09 |
Guldbamsen moved the thread to the Proto prog forum.....and rightly so since The Beatles are not a prog rock band and are indeed listed here under the Proto prog heading.
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Posted: August 22 2014 at 13:03 |
Thanks. I used of part of your post to explain mine!! I know your opinion clearly. I living with "Progressive" music and fortunately my family (my wife and my children) understand me.I love Beatles but they are not a Prog Rock band (IMO). Thanks again for your time and answer. |
No problem. I respect your opinion and i'm glad I did not offence you. Long life to rock and roll
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Posted: August 22 2014 at 12:10 |
Yep, they all but just about started it all (except for that little known Italian instrumental outfit around the same time).
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Posted: August 22 2014 at 10:07 |
musitron wrote:
Hi. Many of us (PA fans) love or like beatles. I start with them when I was 13-14 years old( Now I am 45). I agree with you my friend but IMO they never been a Prog Rock band or they never start Prog Rock Genre. As you said I think They are " just a psychedelic pop rock band "
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No. I said " they were much more than just a psychedelic pop rock band " But I think at 45 you are still too young to understand the impact of the Beatles on the prog and music in general.
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Thanks. I used of part of your post to explain mine!! I know your opinion clearly. I living with "Progressive" music and fortunately my family (my wife and my children) understand me.I love Beatles but they are not a Prog Rock band (IMO). Thanks again for your time and answer.
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Posted: August 22 2014 at 04:43 |
musitron wrote:
Hi. Many of us (PA fans) love or like beatles. I start with them when I was 13-14 years old( Now I am 45). I agree with you my friend but IMO they never been a Prog Rock band or they never start Prog Rock Genre. As you said I think They are " just a psychedelic pop rock band "
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No. I said " they were much more than just a psychedelic pop rock band " But I think at 45 you are still too young to understand the impact of the Beatles on the prog and music in general.
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Exactly; YOU HAD TO BE THERE to know exactly what impact the Beatles had on the progression of rock music. All you 30 or 40 something youngsters please take our word for it. AND HOW CAN YOU FREAKING ARGUE WITH SOMEONE AS CREDIBLE AS BILL BRUFORD!!!!
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Posted: August 21 2014 at 13:41 |
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