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Topic: Manticore's Breath (Greece): ex Will-O-The Wisp
Posted: June 23 2013 at 09:33

^^ can follow the discussion here Wink

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Posted: June 23 2013 at 08:53

I wondered what had happened to Will-o-the Wisp. An awesome band, I've been hoping for some time they would release something new.

The new sound is quite different and doesn't seem like something that belongs in Psych IMHO. This seems more like the case of Tyrannosaurus Rex and T. Rex to me, in which the core of the band remained the same but the music changed dramatically. Seems like a separate band entry is in order, probably in a different genre.

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Posted: June 23 2013 at 03:47

Upon reflection, it would probably make sense to always create a new page for a band or artist who changes the name under which any subsequent material is to be released - even if there is no change in style/sub genre involved. It invoves a bit more work I know, but as long as a link is included in the biography on each page to facilitate navigation to the other one, I think this would be a much tidier way of doing it than combining the discography in a single shared entry, with the two names by which the band or artist is known simply separated by a forward slash in the page heading.

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Posted: June 22 2013 at 18:15

The same case like them e.g.

Musica Transonic
Mainliner

(And each belongs to a different subgenre from the other! Shocked

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Posted: June 22 2013 at 16:00

I tend to say this needs a new band page, evaluation inclusively of course ... even if the staff seems to be identically equal

Edited by Rivertree - June 22 2013 at 16:00

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Posted: June 22 2013 at 15:03

If they are found to have changed styles, they should have a separate entry Wink

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Posted: June 22 2013 at 14:21

Okay, I was aware of that one. Yeah it would require a check with the Psych guys as individual genre teams may well deal with this kind of thing differently.

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Posted: June 22 2013 at 14:14

Similar case to this one, Chris - where the band changed their name, but were the same personnel, and I updated the bio and simply added the album that was released under the new band name for Thanos at his request. Perhaps we should let the Psych boys make the call on what to do with this one?

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Posted: June 22 2013 at 14:02

I'm not sure what you're proposing David... to add Manticore's Breath to the Will-Of-The Wisp bandpage or to suggest them for a separate eval as a new band?

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Posted: June 20 2013 at 20:51

Nice easy one this!

Manticore's Breath is a Greek prog band that used to go by the name Will-O-The Wisp :http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3515. The direction of the band changed a bit as they moved into a harder more retro direction. The music has a touch of a stoner vibe and most definitely 70s English sounding.

Manticore's Breath has the same line-up as the 2005 incarnation of Will-O-The Wisp (Takis Barbagalas: guitars, Agelos Gerakitis: vocals, Kostas Pagonas: bass and Kostas Kostopoulos: drums).

Their first 10inch EP was released in 2010, and included 2 songs indicating a shift towards a more heavy progressive approach.

Their 2011 album Death Breath actually established the new direction with 6 new tracks with heavy guitar riffs, a tight rhythm section and haunted vocals.
The album was released on vinyl (600 copies - sold out) and on CD.

More info:

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Manticore%27s+Breath
http://www.veamusic.com/catalogue/missingvinyl/mvwow003.html

And for our Greek speaking friends:

http://diskoryxeion.blogspot.co.uk/2010/07/manticores-breath.html
http://diskoryxeion.blogspot.co.uk/2011/12/manticores-breath-death-breath.html

Their two releases:

Manticore's Breath ‎– Manticore's Breath (April 2010) EP.
Missing vinyl ‎– MV-WOW 002, Vinyl, 10", 33 1/3 RPM, Limited Edition.

1. Devil's Hunger (8:17)
2. Thoughts (7:25)

Total Time 15:42

Manticore's Breath‎ – Death Breath (2011) Full Length, Missing Vinyl ‎– MV-WOW 003

1. Your Truth Is A Dead God (6:59)
2. Personal Demon (7:35)
3. Fields Of Youth (7:49)
4. I Became A Shadow (9:02)
5. Astral Lament (4:02)
6. Manticore (6:30)

Total Time 41:57

CD: Limited to 500 hand-numbered copies.

•250 red artwork
•250 green artwork

LP: Ultra heavy tripple foldout textured leather cover, in 2 different colours.

Limited to 600 hand-numbered copies:
•300 Red Transparent.
•300 Green Transparent.

And a medley:

It just needs the bio updating by a friendly S.C. (including having the last dash removing from Will-O-The-Wisp (band's name was actually Will-O-The Wisp), and the EP and album adding to the discography, I guess...

Edit: cannot get the discogs link to work here - the apostrophe in Manticore's seems to be an issue for the forum software, and even if I replace it with %27, the link still won't open from within this post (both versions of the link work perfectly if you type them directly into the browser address bar though).

Edited by yam yam - June 23 2013 at 15:48

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aapatsos Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 11 2005 Location: Manchester, UK Status: Offline Points: 9226	Topic: Manticore's Breath (Greece): ex Will-O-The Wisp Posted: June 23 2013 at 09:33
	^^ can follow the discussion here

ClemofNazareth Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Prog Folk Researcher Joined: August 17 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4659	Posted: June 23 2013 at 08:53
	I wondered what had happened to Will-o-the Wisp. An awesome band, I've been hoping for some time they would release something new. The new sound is quite different and doesn't seem like something that belongs in Psych IMHO. This seems more like the case of Tyrannosaurus Rex and T. Rex to me, in which the core of the band remained the same but the music changed dramatically. Seems like a separate band entry is in order, probably in a different genre.
	"Peace is the only battle worth waging." Albert Camus

yam yam Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Crossover Team Joined: June 16 2011 Location: Kerberos Status: Offline Points: 7065	Posted: June 23 2013 at 03:47
	Upon reflection, it would probably make sense to always create a new page for a band or artist who changes the name under which any subsequent material is to be released - even if there is no change in style/sub genre involved. It invoves a bit more work I know, but as long as a link is included in the biography on each page to facilitate navigation to the other one, I think this would be a much tidier way of doing it than combining the discography in a single shared entry, with the two names by which the band or artist is known simply separated by a forward slash in the page heading.

DamoXt7942 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Joined: October 15 2008 Location: Okayama, Japan Status: Offline Points: 17493	Posted: June 22 2013 at 18:15
	The same case like them e.g. Musica Transonic Mainliner (And each belongs to a different subgenre from the other! )


Rivertree Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Band Submissions Joined: March 22 2006 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 17650	Posted: June 22 2013 at 16:00
	I tend to say this needs a new band page, evaluation inclusively of course ... even if the staff seems to be identically equal Edited by Rivertree - June 22 2013 at 16:00


aapatsos Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 11 2005 Location: Manchester, UK Status: Offline Points: 9226	Posted: June 22 2013 at 15:03
	If they are found to have changed styles, they should have a separate entry

seventhsojourn Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 11 2009 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 4006	Posted: June 22 2013 at 14:21
	Okay, I was aware of that one. Yeah it would require a check with the Psych guys as individual genre teams may well deal with this kind of thing differently.

yam yam Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Crossover Team Joined: June 16 2011 Location: Kerberos Status: Offline Points: 7065	Posted: June 22 2013 at 14:14
	Similar case to this one, Chris - where the band changed their name, but were the same personnel, and I updated the bio and simply added the album that was released under the new band name for Thanos at his request. Perhaps we should let the Psych boys make the call on what to do with this one?

seventhsojourn Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 11 2009 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 4006	Posted: June 22 2013 at 14:02
	I'm not sure what you're proposing David... to add Manticore's Breath to the Will-Of-The Wisp bandpage or to suggest them for a separate eval as a new band?

yam yam Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Crossover Team Joined: June 16 2011 Location: Kerberos Status: Offline Points: 7065	Posted: June 20 2013 at 20:51
	Nice easy one this! Manticore's Breath is a Greek prog band that used to go by the name Will-O-The Wisp :http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3515. The direction of the band changed a bit as they moved into a harder more retro direction. The music has a touch of a stoner vibe and most definitely 70s English sounding. Manticore's Breath has the same line-up as the 2005 incarnation of Will-O-The Wisp (Takis Barbagalas: guitars, Agelos Gerakitis: vocals, Kostas Pagonas: bass and Kostas Kostopoulos: drums). Their first 10inch EP was released in 2010, and included 2 songs indicating a shift towards a more heavy progressive approach. Their 2011 album Death Breath actually established the new direction with 6 new tracks with heavy guitar riffs, a tight rhythm section and haunted vocals. The album was released on vinyl (600 copies - sold out) and on CD. More info: http://www.discogs.com/artist/Manticore%27s+Breath http://www.veamusic.com/catalogue/missingvinyl/mvwow003.html And for our Greek speaking friends: http://diskoryxeion.blogspot.co.uk/2010/07/manticores-breath.html http://diskoryxeion.blogspot.co.uk/2011/12/manticores-breath-death-breath.html Their two releases: Manticore's Breath ‎– Manticore's Breath (April 2010) EP. Missing vinyl ‎– MV-WOW 002, Vinyl, 10", 33 1/3 RPM, Limited Edition. 1. Devil's Hunger (8:17) 2. Thoughts (7:25) Total Time 15:42 Manticore's Breath‎ – Death Breath (2011) Full Length, Missing Vinyl ‎– MV-WOW 003 1. Your Truth Is A Dead God (6:59) 2. Personal Demon (7:35) 3. Fields Of Youth (7:49) 4. I Became A Shadow (9:02) 5. Astral Lament (4:02) 6. Manticore (6:30) Total Time 41:57 CD: Limited to 500 hand-numbered copies. •250 red artwork •250 green artwork LP: Ultra heavy tripple foldout textured leather cover, in 2 different colours. Limited to 600 hand-numbered copies: •300 Red Transparent. •300 Green Transparent. And a medley: It just needs the bio updating by a friendly S.C. (including having the last dash removing from Will-O-The-Wisp (band's name was actually Will-O-The Wisp), and the EP and album adding to the discography, I guess... Edit: cannot get the discogs link to work here - the apostrophe in Manticore's seems to be an issue for the forum software, and even if I replace it with %27, the link still won't open from within this post (both versions of the link work perfectly if you type them directly into the browser address bar though). Edited by yam yam - June 23 2013 at 15:48