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Topic: Triumvirat a La Carte Posted: February 26 2016 at 19:53
Seeing
this thread inspired me to dig out my copy and play the tracks that I’d
neglected over the years: Jo Ann Walker, For You and Goodbye.I think I’d only played those three twice at
the most, last time probably three decades ago, so it was high time to see if time
had mellowed my opinions of them (which weren’t high to begin with).
Well…For
You is a *little* more listenable, but the other two I still found
excruciating.I’ve long thought that if
Barry Palmer were available to sing on the entire album it would have been a
slight improvement.As it is, I’ve
always found David Hanselmann’s vocals ear-grating.Slightly less so on Oh I’m Late Again, and
Bavarian in New York is saved by the instrumental parts.Out of the Palmer tracks, Waterfall holds up
well enough, and I’m partial to Darlin’ because it was already one of my
favorite Beach Boys tunes.
Overall…yeah,
it was definitely a comedown from previous efforts.But it was at a time when most of our 70’s
prog favorites were either breaking up or opting for a more basic sound, with
varying degrees of commercial success.
I’d
known about “Russian Roulette” but when I first saw it in a used shop I was immediately
repelled.Just how many fans did they
think they’d gain with a cover of Jurgen in a burger-eating contest, with him
barfing on the back cover?It was no
contest for me; after being let down by its predecessor, I had no compunctions
about passing it up.
Edited by AreYouHuman - February 27 2016 at 19:21
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Posted: December 24 2015 at 12:30
presdoug wrote:
presdoug wrote:
npjnpj wrote:
I think Triumvirat turned bland with Old Loves Die Hard. After that it was just different flavours of bland.
When i first heard Old Loves Die Hard, i was deeply moved by it, but it has not stood the test of time for me at all, and it seems boring and second rate to me now, and i have felt that way about it for years-it does not stand up to the first three records. I have mixed feelings about Pompeii, depending on my mood Believe it or not, my fave post Spartacus album of theirs is Russian Roulette!
To be more accurate, now more than 2 years after that post, i would have to say my favorite post Spartacus album is Pompeii. Though i still can find some merit in Russian Roulette. (there are also some great vids of Palmer singing The Hymn on youtube, and also Fritz, Petereit and Holtmann playing Dance On The Volcano, all from Pompeii) There was a show in Germany called Bios Banhof Music, which featured interviews and songs from Old Loves Die Hard. Maybe it will make it onto youtube someday. And who knows, maybe the 1974 In Concert TV footage.
Now, some time after this post, just thought I'd clear up and clarify some things. Old Loves Die Hard is definitely my favorite post Spartacus T'rat album; it IS deeply moving to say the least, and I find I listen to it feeling musically refreshed in a big way every time. Triumvirat were never featured on Bios Banhof Music. To this date, no ABC In Concert footage has surfaced.
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Posted: October 14 2013 at 16:56
tszirmay wrote:
Well, I must admit that 'for You' is a sensational romantic torch song, full of immediate passion and sort of ideal when hugging a loved one........Cheesy? oh yeah but a little "fromage" is always a guilty pleasure ! Camembert anyone?
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Posted: October 14 2013 at 11:30
Well, I must admit that 'for You' is a sensational romantic torch song, full of immediate passion and sort of ideal when hugging a loved one........Cheesy? oh yeah but a little "fromage" is always a guilty pleasure ! Camembert anyone?
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Posted: October 14 2013 at 09:01
presdoug wrote:
npjnpj wrote:
I think Triumvirat turned bland with Old Loves Die Hard. After that it was just different flavours of bland.
When i first heard Old Loves Die Hard, i was deeply moved by it, but it has not stood the test of time for me at all, and it seems boring and second rate to me now, and i have felt that way about it for years-it does not stand up to the first three records. I have mixed feelings about Pompeii, depending on my mood Believe it or not, my fave post Spartacus album of theirs is Russian Roulette!
To be more accurate, now more than 2 years after that post, i would have to say my favorite post Spartacus album is Pompeii. Though i still can find some merit in Russian Roulette. (there are also some great vids of Palmer singing The Hymn on youtube, and also Fritz, Petereit and Holtmann playing Dance On The Volcano, all from Pompeii) There was a show in Germany called Bios Banhof Music, which featured interviews and songs from Old Loves Die Hard. Maybe it will make it onto youtube someday. And who knows, maybe the 1974 In Concert TV footage.
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Posted: May 17 2011 at 10:31
I heard only once that A La Carte just totally sucked, so I stayed away. Saw it new and unwrapped in album form at a now belly-upped used record store and ignored it then also. The band's cheesy emulation of ELP on their early albums had left a bad taste in my mouth, so this lack of originality swayed me from believing Triumvirat (and what a rat) could actually come up with quality on one of their last albums. By the way, Pompei is very listenable.
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Posted: May 12 2011 at 09:32
I actually gave it another listen and the track ( oh I'm ) Late Again reminds me of some Saga material and I'm even beginning to ahem ( sound of throat clearing ) like that particular track.
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Posted: May 11 2011 at 17:36
When i first heard it, it seemed so popish and watered down, and i guess i compared it to earlier classics like Spartacus, and it bored me to tears. Now, years later, i can actually listen to the whole record and it fits when i am in a more mainstream type of musical mood. It of course, will never surpass the first three Triumvirat records, but i find it's ok, anyway, in retrospect. A few days back, i started a thread on Triumvirat's last record, Russian Roulette. It is hated even more than A La Carte, but i found myself liking it when listening to it recently after avoiding it for years and years. It does not sound like Triumvirat at all, but i find if i approach it without wishing it to be so, i can get somewhere with it. A La Carte is sort of the same now, at least for me, presently.
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