Triumvirat a La Carte
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Topic: Triumvirat a La Carte
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Subject: Triumvirat a La Carte
Date Posted: May 11 2011 at 15:29
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We rarely discuss stinkers. I just finished forcing myself to listen to this atrocity and then I read the PA reviews and there's one guy who actually liked it and gave it a 3 and backed it up and I sort of agreed with a few of his points. Here is the review http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=230087" rel="nofollow - www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=230087 I think it was a really good review and the guy certainly had a lot of balls to give it a three. Thoughts? ------------- |
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: May 11 2011 at 17:36
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When i first heard it, it seemed so popish and watered down, and i guess i compared it to earlier classics like Spartacus, and it bored me to tears. Now, years later, i can actually listen to the whole record and it fits when i am in a more mainstream type of musical mood. It of course, will never surpass the first three Triumvirat records, but i find it's ok, anyway, in retrospect. A few days back, i started a thread on Triumvirat's last record, Russian Roulette. It is hated even more than A La Carte, but i found myself liking it when listening to it recently after avoiding it for years and years. It does not sound like Triumvirat at all, but i find if i approach it without wishing it to be so, i can get somewhere with it. A La Carte is sort of the same now, at least for me, presently. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 11 2011 at 18:40
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Ah, what can you say? I really like the first three. Pompeii is decent. I had the others in my LP collection and didn't like them (used).
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Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: May 12 2011 at 05:55
| I think Triumvirat turned bland with Old Loves Die Hard. After that it was just different flavours of bland. |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: May 12 2011 at 09:32
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I actually gave it another listen and the track ( oh I'm ) Late Again reminds me of some Saga material and I'm even beginning to ahem ( sound of throat clearing ) like that particular track.
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: May 12 2011 at 10:35
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npjnpj wrote:Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: May 12 2011 at 10:56
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I'm not going to go THAT far. Even Genesis didn't sink that low.
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Posted By: esky
Date Posted: May 17 2011 at 10:31
| I heard only once that A La Carte just totally sucked, so I stayed away. Saw it new and unwrapped in album form at a now belly-upped used record store and ignored it then also. The band's cheesy emulation of ELP on their early albums had left a bad taste in my mouth, so this lack of originality swayed me from believing Triumvirat (and what a rat) could actually come up with quality on one of their last albums. By the way, Pompei is very listenable. |
Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: May 17 2011 at 10:37
I still love the cover art to Russian Roulette.  ------------- http://blindpoetrecords.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: October 14 2013 at 09:01
(there are also some great vids of Palmer singing The Hymn on youtube, and also Fritz, Petereit and Holtmann playing Dance On The Volcano, all from Pompeii) There was a show in Germany called Bios Banhof Music, which featured interviews and songs from Old Loves Die Hard. Maybe it will make it onto youtube someday. And who knows, maybe the 1974 In Concert TV footage. |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: October 14 2013 at 09:47
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Nice review, but I don't know the album. Actually, I hardly know Triumvirat well, and yesterday I came to the conclusion that it might be a miss. A local radio station (classic rock) played some years ago music from Spartacus, and I really liked that. But I like people who stand up for prog bands who go a bit the commercial path. With bands like Camel, Yes, Genesis, I do like some of their later output. But the first album I like to check out soon is Spartacus.
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: October 14 2013 at 11:08
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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: October 14 2013 at 11:30
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Well, I must admit that 'for You' is a sensational romantic torch song, full of immediate passion and sort of ideal when hugging a loved one........Cheesy? oh yeah but a little "fromage" is always a guilty pleasure ! Camembert anyone? ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: October 14 2013 at 13:30
I will
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: October 14 2013 at 16:56
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: November 23 2013 at 13:49
I did, at last, listen to Spartacus, and I really like it. Sometimes very ELP-ish, but very well done. Great song ideas and playing. I'll certainly delve further into Triumvirat!
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: November 23 2013 at 20:55
| ^Glad to hear it. |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: December 24 2015 at 12:30
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Posted By: gr8dane
Date Posted: December 24 2015 at 15:21
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It is a bit of a tough one to crack,no doubt. I really like Waterfall. A Bavarian in New York sounds like it could be on Old Loves Die Hard. ------------- Shake & bake. |
Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: December 24 2015 at 18:29
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A sensationally dramatic love song.....  ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: AreYouHuman
Date Posted: February 26 2016 at 19:53
Seeing this thread inspired me to dig out my copy and play the tracks that I’d neglected over the years: Jo Ann Walker, For You and Goodbye. I think I’d only played those three twice at the most, last time probably three decades ago, so it was high time to see if time had mellowed my opinions of them (which weren’t high to begin with).Well…For You is a *little* more listenable, but the other two I still found excruciating. I’ve long thought that if Barry Palmer were available to sing on the entire album it would have been a slight improvement. As it is, I’ve always found David Hanselmann’s vocals ear-grating. Slightly less so on Oh I’m Late Again, and Bavarian in New York is saved by the instrumental parts. Out of the Palmer tracks, Waterfall holds up well enough, and I’m partial to Darlin’ because it was already one of my favorite Beach Boys tunes.Overall…yeah, it was definitely a comedown from previous efforts. But it was at a time when most of our 70’s prog favorites were either breaking up or opting for a more basic sound, with varying degrees of commercial success.I’d known about “Russian Roulette” but when I first saw it in a used shop I was immediately repelled. Just how many fans did they think they’d gain with a cover of Jurgen in a burger-eating contest, with him barfing on the back cover? It was no contest for me; after being let down by its predecessor, I had no compunctions about passing it up.------------- Caption: We tend to take ourselves a little too seriously. Silly human race! Yes is for everybody! |