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Poll Question: Wich is your favorite era of classical music?
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    Posted: March 31 2011 at 04:57
The french school (Ravel, Debussy, Chausson) has my preference, however
i don't dislike a little english romantism from time to time:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbcuteYm-EA

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2011 at 04:49
Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Whichever era you plug Debussy in.  He was Medieval, right? Tongue  I don't know if they are generally accepted as classical but I really like Reich and Glass.  Hackett's done some good stuff, more will come to mind.  Rypdal... I'll cast the first vote for 21st.
Debussy's music was written in the late 19th and early 20th Century-he has been called a "Musical Impressionist", his music coinciding with the movement in painting known as Impressionism. Also  could be seen as an early Modern composer-kind of a connection between the late Romantics from the tale end of the 19th Century, and music that was written after Debussy (I think he died around 1919)
 
did you notice that the overture of Renaissance's song "at the harbour" is borrowed from Debussy's "la cathédrale engloutie" ?

So many things are being borrowed in prog. The beginning  and some other parts of "The Three Tongues" from Mother Gong's album "Fairy Tales" is taken from Ravel's "Introduction and Allegro For Harp, Flute, Clarinet and String Quartet", for example.  Here the Ravel tune:

And here the Mother Gong tune, in two parts:



An album which I fully recommend. It is way too little known, but it should be in everyone's collection, in my honest opinion.





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2011 at 16:11
Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Whichever era you plug Debussy in.  He was Medieval, right? Tongue  I don't know if they are generally accepted as classical but I really like Reich and Glass.  Hackett's done some good stuff, more will come to mind.  Rypdal... I'll cast the first vote for 21st.
Debussy's music was written in the late 19th and early 20th Century-he has been called a "Musical Impressionist", his music coinciding with the movement in painting known as Impressionism. Also  could be seen as an early Modern composer-kind of a connection between the late Romantics from the tale end of the 19th Century, and music that was written after Debussy (I think he died around 1919)
 
did you notice that the overture of Renaissance's song "at the harbour" is borrowed from Debussy's "la cathédrale engloutie" ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2011 at 00:07
Alan Hovhaness and Edgard Varese are my most listened to "Classical Music" followed by Stravinsky.  So I have to say 20th century.  I like the earlier periods but some times they sound a little too.... I don't know...like they're predictable and bland. Sometimes they even sound like exercises for practice. (This is opinion, don't yell at me)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 29 2011 at 21:40
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Whichever era you plug Debussy in.  He was Medieval, right? Tongue  I don't know if they are generally accepted as classical but I really like Reich and Glass.  Hackett's done some good stuff, more will come to mind.  Rypdal... I'll cast the first vote for 21st.
Debussy's music was written in the late 19th and early 20th Century-he has been called a "Musical Impressionist", his music coinciding with the movement in painting known as Impressionism. Also  could be seen as an early Modern composer-kind of a connection between the late Romantics from the tale end of the 19th Century, and music that was written after Debussy (I think he died around 1919)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 29 2011 at 20:34
Whichever era you plug Debussy in.  He was Medieval, right? Tongue  I don't know if they are generally accepted as classical but I really like Reich and Glass.  Hackett's done some good stuff, more will come to mind.  Rypdal... I'll cast the first vote for 21st.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 29 2011 at 14:40
Come on guys, Ludwig and Wolfgang? I know, everything is subjective...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2011 at 08:00
Voted for 20th Century principally through familarity with Stravinsky, Copland, Janacek, Ginastera,  Bartok etc

Ashamed to say that although I love many pieces by Liszt, Bach, Handel, Delius, Mussorgsky, Ravel etc I don't know for the life of me which composers belong to which era Embarrassed


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2011 at 07:52
Originally posted by The_Jester The_Jester wrote:

No one on the 21st Century? I tought it was rather popular among some proggies.
There is such a crossover from Contempory to 21st Century (and to some extent 20th Century) you could consider all three to be a split vote. Those composers that are working in the 21st century (Glass, Ligeti, Tavner, Nyman, Górecki  etc etc) have feet in many "camps";.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2011 at 07:42
No one on the 21st Century? I tought it was rather popular among some proggies.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2011 at 17:53
Originally posted by The_Jester The_Jester wrote:

That's where Wikipedia gets usefull. You can know te period of you're favorite composers.
Gah!  I am not anyone's favourite composer. YOUR favourite.
 
Anyway - 20th Century followed by Contemporary.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2011 at 17:21
That's where Wikipedia gets usefull. You can know te period of you're favorite composers.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2011 at 19:17
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Renaissance and earlier music tends to get old quickly... 


so i guess you're not the one who voted Medieval era? LOL

on topic, i have trouble choosing. My knowledge with classical is limited, in that, i have stuff by various composers from all eras (except medieval). I could tell you who my favorite composers are, but eras? nah i just dont know enough.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2011 at 16:14
Originally posted by Bitterblogger Bitterblogger wrote:

My vote has put Romantic period in the lead. Although there are no losers with sublime music in each era.
I thought I'd put in a plug for an overlooked genius of the period: Carl Maria von Weber. Check him out!
I love Weber's music, especially the piano concertos and solo piano music and overtures.
       Solo piano with Hans Kann, piano concertos with Peter Rosel or Roland Keller, and the overtures either with Karajan or Roy Goodman
          Weber was related to Mozart and was Berlioz's early musical hero
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2011 at 14:17
My vote has put Romantic period in the lead. Although there are no losers with sublime music in each era.
I thought I'd put in a plug for an overlooked genius of the period: Carl Maria von Weber. Check him out!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2011 at 13:48
Hmmmm I didn't see this thread before?

20th Century >>> Baroque > 21st Century > Romantic > Medieval > Classical

I don't listen to enough Renaissance to say really. From what I've heard, I'm not a huge fan.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2011 at 12:40
Originally posted by The Pessimist The Pessimist wrote:

Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

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yes, it should be understood "best for you", or "your favourite". There is indeed no such thing as best era.
 
Nationalism appeared in the romantic era, with references to the local folklore (Chopin's mazurkas, Liszt's hungarian rhapsodies, Wagner's operas, Smetana's symphonic poems).
 
Sonata was already developed in the Baroque era, with "sonades en trio" in France (François Couperin) and the famous Scarlatti's sonatas for keyboard. Also it is worth mentioning the apparition of concerti (Vivaldi, Corelli, Albinoni).
 
Classical era saw the development of symphonies.


You are right in some ways, not so much in others. Indeed, in the Baroque era, there were pieces called "Sonatas" (which is Italian for "to play" correct me if I'm wrong). They were on of the two categories in small pieces of music, the other being "Cantatas", meaning "to sing". However, none of these - and I can say this in confidence - were in Sonata Form.

Sonata Form was introduced in the Classical era by Haydn, and boiled down to its simplest explanation, is as follows:

Exposition (introduction of all themes)
Development (twists and variations that build on the themes)
Recapitulation (re-introduction of the themes)

Which all symphonies are based around, strictly or loosely.

As I said in my original comment, Sonata Form was conceived in the Classcal era, not the term Sonata. A Baroque Sonata and a Classical Sonata are worlds apart.

Also, Brahms's Hungarian Dances, Chopin's Mazurkas etc... are the early foundations of Nationalism, however the actual subgenre itself began in the 20th century. These kind of Romantic Nationalist pieces are more Proto-Nationalism than anything... It would be a bit like saying that Jazz first started as soon as quartal harmony was discovered.

 
ok, thank you for this explanation.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2011 at 17:42
My favourite era is the early 20th century (Stravinsky, Prokofjev, Janacek, Kodaly, Gershwin, Martinu, Bartok) a hair over Baroque (Bach, Telemann, Händel, Vivaldi, Albinoni) and Renaissance (Palestrina, Byrd, di Lasso, Monteverdi).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2011 at 11:24
Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

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yes, it should be understood "best for you", or "your favourite". There is indeed no such thing as best era.
 
Nationalism appeared in the romantic era, with references to the local folklore (Chopin's mazurkas, Liszt's hungarian rhapsodies, Wagner's operas, Smetana's symphonic poems).
 
Sonata was already developed in the Baroque era, with "sonades en trio" in France (François Couperin) and the famous Scarlatti's sonatas for keyboard. Also it is worth mentioning the apparition of concerti (Vivaldi, Corelli, Albinoni).
 
Classical era saw the development of symphonies.


You are right in some ways, not so much in others. Indeed, in the Baroque era, there were pieces called "Sonatas" (which is Italian for "to play" correct me if I'm wrong). They were on of the two categories in small pieces of music, the other being "Cantatas", meaning "to sing". However, none of these - and I can say this in confidence - were in Sonata Form.

Sonata Form was introduced in the Classical era by Haydn, and boiled down to its simplest explanation, is as follows:

Exposition (introduction of all themes)
Development (twists and variations that build on the themes)
Recapitulation (re-introduction of the themes)

Which all symphonies are based around, strictly or loosely.

As I said in my original comment, Sonata Form was conceived in the Classcal era, not the term Sonata. A Baroque Sonata and a Classical Sonata are worlds apart.

Also, Brahms's Hungarian Dances, Chopin's Mazurkas etc... are the early foundations of Nationalism, however the actual subgenre itself began in the 20th century. These kind of Romantic Nationalist pieces are more Proto-Nationalism than anything... It would be a bit like saying that Jazz first started as soon as quartal harmony was discovered.

Quote Technical death metal? No, let's listen to Brahms!


You'll probably find that to be more Prokofiev
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Romantic era is all about individual expression, which makes it the earliest prototype of progressive metal.Clap

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