Pagan Folk?

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: PlumAplomb wrote: well in retrospect, i did not mean to take it personally, i just didn't want to be lumped into a stereotype because of my interests. i dont dress goth, in fact i currently am wearing a millenium falcon shirt with jeans and purple converse for example. starting in the late 70's siouxie, the cure and joy division were probably the biggest 'goth' bands to emerge back then, a large part of genre defining are the people as well, they create the scene. the people in the bands and the fans. LOL, didn't pretended to be harsh. When I said silly, I referred to the Victorian or Romantic Gothic Revival, as a fact I like Goth music. In the late 90's I downloaded from paid  Audio Galaxy (It was apparently legal because we paid a fee and even free download hadn't been declared illegal yet), it was a Prog paradise, but it was closed and I joined a legal pay site that didn't had Prog at all, so started to download Goth music which I found mysterious and interesting. Iván

I remember audio galaxy. i get a lot of my prog from my one friend who pretty much has/knows it all. and i also reearch on here :)

well in retrospect, i did not mean to take it personally, i just didn't want to be lumped into a stereotype because of my interests. i dont dress goth, in fact i currently am wearing a millenium falcon shirt with jeans and purple converse for example.
starting in the late 70's siouxie, the cure and joy division were probably the biggest 'goth' bands to emerge back then, a large part of genre defining are the people as well, they create the scene. the people in the bands and the fans.

yeah I also wasn't referencing any historical period in my goth interests as well :) although i reference some music i enjoy with periods in time though,when i used to wrok at a music store in my teen years i worked the classical section so i became familiar wiht many time periods for certain music, i definitely had a lot of medieval and all that.
goth music has so many subgenres it would be unfair to lump it all together

[/QUOTE] ive never heard it referred to like that before, I thought the distinction was between the Gothic era also known as the late middle ages and Gothic Romanticism the 19th century artistic and literary movement which ive never heard of as being distinguished as goth. Personally I don't see goth rock or the goth subculture as having much a relation to either the era or literary movement or atleast Goth has as little to do with Gothic Romanticism as Gothic Romanticism has to do with the Gothic era. [/QUOTE]

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: PlumAplomb wrote: off the top of my head http:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnk9q4QUeE0 but i'll think of more. i love miranda sex garden and dead can dance, if you're into the goth stuff i can give a whole list or like stuff from 80's 90' 00's Hi and welcome, Now to the point:  I believe Miranda Sex Garden was wrongly lumped into the Goth Rock world. There's a difference with Gothic (Last Part of the Middle Age from the XII to the XV Centuries), and Goth (A silly revival of the Medieval art also called Victorian Goth in the late 1800's obsessed with darkness and vampires among other nonsenses). Goth Rock is related with Victorian Gothic, while Miranda Sex Garden have an obsession with the late Medieval era originally called Gothic. As a fact their first album MADRA is a collection of Medieval Madrigals, and the key members of the band (Katharine Blake and Teresa Cassella) formed a new band called Mediaeval Baebes. Of course the musical critics never understood the difference between Gothic and Goth, so they were lumped with all the dark bands who played some form of obscure Hard Rock and no Prog relation. Iván

well not trying to get into semantics or split hairs here, but not all goth is rock either and i never said 'goth rock' i said 'goth' which encompasses all of it. i have mediaeval baebes as well plus a whole bunch of music in that vein. i think you are judging me and the music i listen to without even knowing either. i am also not obsessed with darkness for dark's sake, nor vampires. i dont sit at night and incessantly loop bauhaus' 'bela lugosi is dead', nor do i dress gothicly. (i do have about four filigree tattoos though hmmm)

i discovered miranda sex garden from the gothic, synth pop, industrial club world. that doesnt mean i immediately classify a band with the scene though. i look into the band as well to discover more. dont get me wrong, i can be a total and complete music snob, but i don't think i should be unfairly stereotyped when i first come to these forums as i would never do that to anyone else.

off the top of my head

http:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnk9q4QUeE0

but i'll think of more. i love miranda sex garden and dead can dance, if you're into the goth stuff i can give a whole list or like stuff from 80's 90' 00's


Edited by PlumAplomb - January 24 2011 at 16:48

ProgBob wrote: I'm not sure if it helps but one of the Magnet tracks from the Wicker Man (Corn Rigs) was included on an 'acid folk' compilation that came out a few years ago called Gather In The Mushrooms.  This was a valuable starting point for me to explore these folky bands of the late 60s/early 70s but I am not sure if it is specific enough for your interest in the 'pagan' aspect.

Thats look like a really interesting compilation, maybe Acid Folk is what i'm looking for after all. I'm going to see if I can find a copy of that nice and cheap

How about Fern Knight:

TODDLER wrote: Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: Miranda Sex Garden, their last album "Carnival of Souls" recording started in the Norwich graveyard on Friday 13 of August 1999 and all their imagery is absolutely pagan. This Pagan perspective started with their third album "Fairytales about Slavery" Iván I really enjoyed this.

Dean wrote: First band that springs to mind when anyone mentions Pagan Folk/Rock would be Inkubus Sukkubus: (amusingly the youtube pop-up advert that popped up when I played this video was "Fly Virgin to Orlando" )   From the Prog Archives, a not dissimilar band is The Bluehorses, though obviously more proggy than the Inkies:

Again I don't know either of those bands, of the two I'd probably go with the Bluehorses,thanks for the rec.

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: Miranda Sex Garden, their last album "Carnival of Souls" recording started in the Norwich graveyard on Friday 13 of August 1999 and all their imagery is absolutely pagan. This Pagan perspective started with their third album "Fairytales about Slavery" Iván

Not heard of them, they do look and sound the part alright, i'll check them out, Thanks