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    Posted: March 02 2010 at 01:32
I like EVERY genre music that is enough progressive for me (those genres that aren't here in progarchives, and that aren't so progressive - still if it's new or good, it's usually somehow progressive). Also it should be enjoyable in more conservative way, but not always. Also, if it's weird, I usually like it. But I'm a burning soul, so the music should be aggressive - of course the not-aggressive parts of it makes it more aggressive, because by aggressiveness I mean contrasts and basically progressiveness. Though I've listened very much different music.

When I was younger, I was searching for progressive metal etc. Nowadays it's more extreme metal. That's mostly because progressive metal has usually so much basic rock parts. Though, progressive rock has usually too much psychedelic and jazz rock. I listen to them, but I'm always wanting more prog.

Avant-prog has solved my problem in many ways, since there isn't so much progressive symphonic/eclectic prog. Also, I can listen very light music nowadays, but mostly it's nearer to modern classical etc.

But anyway, I actually think many of those who can't stand metal and listens to soft prog, post-rock, art rock, chill-out... are very different proggers than me . I've seen they are more simple and dull and.. well, at least regular. I've seen the phenomenon that under same artist or genre, some are much more popular than others, and it's often those "chill-out" songs/artists. There's much that kind of jazz, indie, folk etc. I mostly hate chill-out. I get very frustrated when the most bad song of some my favorite artist is the most popular.

But I understand it.  I just don't like it, or those people.

Actually every genre has it's chill-outs and aggressions, simplicities and progressivenesses, in a way or another. Maybe I should get into post-rock and ambient more, and Porcupine Tree and light not-so-progressive stuff like that.

All music is equal, though some of it is sh*t - for me.

Some examples of genres that aren't on this site so much but are progressive in some cases: IDM, indie-pop, noise things, all kinds of experimental stuff (not much here, actually - only some main avant-prog - though it's better :P), MPD, modern classical (!!!!), jazzes, atmospheric/experimental doom/black/death metal for example some grindcore and sludge, noisecore and black metal, or something else crossover.... and crossover styles in general.

But at least the most important names of those genres are here, except for classical, jazz, and crossover without big peculiarities. So I use rateyourmusic.com because there's much more genres


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2010 at 20:52
I've got examples of probably every subgenre of prog on my Ipod. I've got Symphonic prog (Yes), prog jazz (Crimson), space rock, prog metal, heavy prog, proto-prog. 

And plenty of non-prog rock and metal, too. They're all just subgenres of rock music, really. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2010 at 08:44
"progressive" usually = interesting aurally and intellectually. Metal edge may not be everyone's cup of tea, but kindred souls need to stick together!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2010 at 11:07
True enough. But for every sophisticated jazz and classical release, you'll find a dozen easy listening experiences as well :-)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2010 at 10:57
Originally posted by Windhawk Windhawk wrote:

Heh. I like prog in all it's varieties. I also like jazz. pop, some classical, mainstream rock, synth, new age...just about every style of music will have something that I like.

I tend to prefer sophisticated music though, and prog has a bit more of that than other genres out there :-)

classical and jazz are also "sophisticated", if not more than prog.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2010 at 12:17
Heh. I like prog in all it's varieties. I also like jazz. pop, some classical, mainstream rock, synth, new age...just about every style of music will have something that I like.

I tend to prefer sophisticated music though, and prog has a bit more of that than other genres out there :-)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2010 at 12:13
I like Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, more because of the Thinking Plague/Henry Cow influences that the metal parts.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2010 at 12:12
Not so much.  I could never take much metal seriously, just so cheesy and so many cliche's.  I absolutely despise Dream Theatre.  It just sounds like endless amounts of John Petrucci being full of himself in an incredibly generic fashion
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2010 at 09:16
I love Tool, The Mars Volta, Indukti 
Im ok with bands like DGM, Green Carnation, Cynic, Devin Townsend, Opeth, Between the BAM, Pain of Salvation ect. ect.
 
I find DT and Rush a bit boring compared to a lot of other music, even though i do listen to what they do. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2010 at 07:25
i only listen to symphonic prog and progressive folk, i really dont like metal Embarrassed
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2010 at 09:12
I love Prog Metal... I know there are too many alike bands but I really enjoy it... Dream Theater, Fates Warning, Liquid Tension, Symphony X, Anubis Gate, Pagans Mind, Mechanical Poet, Threashold and so on...
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2010 at 09:09

I like things in any genre but 'good' Metal really excites me most of all.

But ... it also happens to be the genre that suffers the most from countless copy-cats.
Another problem is the sameness of many albums. I miss the variation and dynamics that you find in prog for example.

Good metal? The following maybe

classic M
Black Sabbath
Priest
Zeppelin

thrash M / prog M
Megadeth
Voivod
Coroner
Psychotic Waltz
Nevermore

extreme M
Neurosis
Enslaved
Opeth
Agalloch

goth-doom M
Candlemass
Paradise Lost
Katatonia

Many of those feature on PA. Or should urgently be added Big smile

As to age, I'm 39. Which I think is relevant because I was around 20 in the early 90's which was the top decade for metal.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2010 at 22:16
The only metal genre I like on this site is  Post Metal. I like the more atmospheric, slugde, stoner , Art metal. Sometimes I still listen to the classics, not much lately. Recently I have been really into all types of jazz , underground hip hop and indie rock. Im not  just stuck on Prog, im not picky about the era of music i choose as long as it is a killer tune.Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2010 at 22:08
If you're a progressive rock fan and don't see the value of an album like, say, Vanden Plas' "Beyond Daylight", or A.C.T.'s "Last Epic", you're just missing out.

That said, there are many non-prog bands that I prefer over many prog-metal acts. Any of you guys like the Mountain Goats? Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2010 at 21:46
Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

I have two prog metal albums by bands that have been active since the 80s (Queensryche and DT), but I just can't stand the cliches and samey sounding modern gloss of this genre. I'll take prog from 70s and the 80s over the claptrap being issues these days. As for metal... its all been done before and since cookie monster vocals seem to be the biggest innovation of the past 20 years I count myself out of this goofy game.

Well, I could say the same thing about some classic prog. I have two Marillion albums and I find them incredibly cheesy. I also find that a lot of modern prog which tries to sound like the 70s stuff (retro prog like Spocks Beard, Transatlantic, etc) is very heavy on the cheese factor as well. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2010 at 21:36
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Originally posted by 88melter 88melter wrote:

I like and perform classic prog. Prog metal, or some other heavier sub-genre, is the music of another generation . I am glad that it exists, that another generation of musicians and listeners keep progressive rock moving forward, but I am part of that original movement. I am not sure the audience for prog metal would believe me, or take me seriously if I was doing stuff made by and for 20-somethings. I am 54.
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I am not a Dream Theater fan, but I'd like to point out that their keyboardist, Jordan Rudess, is also 54, and the other members are all in their forties. And prog-metal here has a lot of fans who are much older than 20. As I said in another thread, let's avoid age-related stereotypes whenever possible.

I agree. Prog metal is hardly teenybopper music, made by and for that demographic. The average age of DT is at least early forties. They all have families. Porcupine Tree are all in their forties, too, except Richard Barbieri who is in his fifties. 

At my last PT concert there was everyone from fans wearing metal band t-shirts, to middle aged guys wearing Pink Floyd and Rush shirts going there with their wives. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2010 at 20:05
I'm a prog fan and I'm a metal fan but I can't usually do them together...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2010 at 19:37
there is some prog metal I really like... there is some I really loathe...

just like 'prog' I guess
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2010 at 23:29
 Oh yeah ,prog metal is cool ,one of my fav bands is Threshold .Aso the early heavy prog stuff such as Heep ,early Queen ,Sabbath ,early Rush(Exit Stage Left) ,Kansas & Budgie .Thumbs Up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2010 at 08:52
I like both, but I must say I haven't heard about 95% of Prog  Metal, but then  again...I haven't heard all Classic Prog either.
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