"Seven Blunders of the World"

dream_orchestra wrote: 1. God. 2. Allowing England to be so close to Scotland. 3. Scotland never getting past the first phase in the World cup, or European championships. 4. The homosexual James the 6th and 1st............sold the Scots down the river. 5. The Lords of Scotland who sided with the above. 6. England winning the world cup.......because they go on and on and on and on and on..........about how they only ever won one major tournament on the same ground for every game. 7. The corrupt Russian linesman whose guide dog barked that the ball crossed the line in the most infamous and talked about world cup final farce (see above).

I'll give you most of that, but I think that in addition to number 3 on your list you should add Scottish goalkeepers - and that's one thing that definitely isn't England's fault .

James Lee wrote: "x without y" presupposes that x is a desirable thing...and in my mind, that's debatable for the majority of the examples. Plus, not all good things require suffering or sacrifice. That's a major fallacy that so many people have bought into for so long that it seems to us to be a given. That's part of why things like compassion, charity and generosity often seem so difficult for us...

Why does "x without y" presuppose that x is a desireable thing?  I could say "murder without an alibi."  That does not presuppose that murder is a desireable thing.

1.  Beer without alcohol.

2.  Potato Chips without fat.

3.  Ice Cream without sugar.

4.  Hookers without teeth.

5.  Popular musicians without talent.

6.  The world without The Doctor as its emperor.

7.  The Doctor without 5 different women a night.

1. God.

2. Allowing England to be so close to Scotland.

3. Scotland never getting past the first phase in the World cup, or European championships.

4. The homosexual James the 6th and 1st............sold the Scots down the river.

5. The Lords of Scotland who sided with the above.

6. England winning the world cup.......because they go on and on and on and on and on..........about how they only ever won one major tournament on the same ground for every game.

7. The corrupt Russian linesman whose guide dog barked that the ball crossed the line in the most infamous and talked about world cup final farce (see above).