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    Posted: 2 hours 6 minutes ago at 00:06
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Di Giacomo another goodie
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^ Exactly, mostly non-Prog, hard rock or Pop artists.   It's always been that way, just the nature of the beast I guess--- F. Mercury, R. Plant, E. John, CS&N, great voices.   Not Prog.
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

^ And he's never had a great voice.   One's favorite is not indicative of greatness.

On the other hand, very few singers in prog have had great voices---   Lake? Boyish and immature.   Jon Anderson?   A smurf.   Wetton?   No way.   Gabriel had the most mature voice with a good range of tone, and lyrics as well.





I find Gabriel the least interesting lol
I like other singers such as ozzy, gillan, dio, brown, sinclair, hammill etc
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^ And he's never had a great voice.   One's favorite is not indicative of greatness.

On the other hand, very few singers in prog have had great voices---   Lake? Boyish and immature.   Jon Anderson?   A smurf.   Wetton?   No way.   Gabriel had the most mature voice with a good range of tone, and lyrics as well.





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^ Minstrel is a great hard-prog album by any standard.

His voice? Anderson has never had a great voice, a bit strained and nasopharyngeal.



He’s one of my fave vocalists of the 70s and early 80s. Probably is my fave.
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^ Minstrel is a great hard-prog album by any standard.

His voice? Anderson has never had a great voice, a bit strained and nasopharyngeal.

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Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

 Ian never sang better


By any quantitative or qualitative measure, that statement is strictly delusional if you are referring to Under Wraps. Unless, of course, you prefer croaking to actual singing -- you know, like on Stand Up, Aqualung, Minstrel in the Gallery, or any album before Ian blew out his vocal chords.

Don’t like his voice much on minstrel. I think you need to listen to those remixes lol


I'm certain you don't know what you're talking about lol


Just because you love minstrel and I don’t lol.
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Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

 Ian never sang better


By any quantitative or qualitative measure, that statement is strictly delusional if you are referring to Under Wraps. Unless, of course, you prefer croaking to actual singing -- you know, like on Stand Up, Aqualung, Minstrel in the Gallery, or any album before Ian blew out his vocal chords.

Don’t like his voice much on minstrel. I think you need to listen to those remixes lol

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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

 Ian never sang better


By any quantitative or qualitative measure, that statement is strictly delusional if you are referring to Under Wraps. Unless, of course, you prefer croaking to actual singing -- you know, like on Stand Up, Aqualung, Minstrel in the Gallery, or any album before Ian blew out his vocal chords.

Don’t like his voice much on minstrel. I think you need to listen to those remixes lol
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Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

 Ian never sang better

By any quantitative or qualitative measure, that statement is strictly delusional if you are referring to Under Wraps. Unless, of course, you prefer croaking to actual singing -- you know, like on Stand Up, Aqualung, Minstrel in the Gallery, or any album before Ian blew out his vocal chords.
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Just like Dave Gilmour pseudo-Floyd solo  Permanent Lapse Of Reason, you can update the 80's atrocious sonics all you want(to no avail), the album will remain bad, because the songwriting is really weak.

There is maybe one UW track that would find a spot on either A or Tb&TB
Ditto for AMLOR, only the opening instrumental would find a spot on either TFC or TDB.




I’ll have it fairly even with A now with this production. Ian never sang better
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:



Just like Dave Gilmour pseudo-Floyd solo  Permanent Lapse Of Reason, you can update the 80's atrocious sonics all you want(to no avail), the album will remain bad, because the songwriting is really weak.

There is maybe one UW track that would find a spot on either A or Tb&TB
Ditto for AMLOR, only the opening instrumental would find a spot on either TFC or TDB.




I’ll have it fairly even with A now with this production. Ian never sang better
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I think the drums were actually the biggest problem of that album, and so this helps a lot indeed. I've always loved Later That Same Evening. There are some other good songs on it. OK it's not a classic, still I always had a soft spot for it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sean Trane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2024 at 02:47

Just like Dave Gilmour pseudo-Floyd solo  Permanent Lapse Of Reason, you can update the 80's atrocious sonics all you want(to no avail), the album will remain bad, because the songwriting is really weak.

There is maybe one UW track that would find a spot on either A or Tb&TB
Ditto for AMLOR, only the opening instrumental would find a spot on either TFC or TDB.


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I saw this tour. Everything onstage was literally under wraps.

That's all.



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Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

I like most the remixed songs more than the originals.  I wonder if Ian and Steven Wilson remix Under Wraps with a live drummer.  Gavin could do it.  


I like how this guy did it. Think he just swapped drum samples. No drummer required which was Ian’s plan lol
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I like most the remixed songs more than the originals.  I wonder if Ian and Steven Wilson remix Under Wraps with a live drummer.  Gavin could do it.  
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

]If ever the phrase "ill-advised" could be used, this would be the misbegotten album I would affix it to.


It's a lot easier than redoing To the Power of Three so that it has good synth sounds and good songs!
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

I really don't think you can make a silk purse out of a sow's ear....

LOL
nicely put, even a bit brutal. Smile
As if the drums were the only problem with this album... Confused

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