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Topic: Tull-under wraps 40 year drum remixPosted By: dr prog
Subject: Tull-under wraps 40 year drum remix
Date Posted: November 23 2024 at 02:33
Sounds a heap better now. The songs are pretty good when you hear them now. Awesome
------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
Replies: Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: November 23 2024 at 02:34
I really don't think you can make a silk purse out of a sow's ear....
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 23 2024 at 02:42
Jared wrote:
I really don't think you can make a silk purse out of a sow's ear....
nicely put, even a bit brutal.
As if the drums were the only problem with this album...
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: November 23 2024 at 02:54
Jared wrote:
I really don't think you can make a silk purse out of a sow's ear....
Play them. I’m loving it now. One of my faves Ians genius is coming out
------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: November 23 2024 at 12:44
I got the link up now. Tried doing the playlist but wasn’t coming up. Tell me Later that same evening doesn’t sound good now? Lol
------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: November 23 2024 at 12:50
How much better does this sound. It was horrible but actually sounds good now
Drums are the main improvement but the bass and guitar sound louder too. Sounds like a top recording now
------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 23 2024 at 14:06
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: November 23 2024 at 14:32
This one has alot of busy bits
------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: November 23 2024 at 14:34
My fave
------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: November 23 2024 at 14:36
Tull at their funnest lol
------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: November 23 2024 at 17:43
Sounds decent enough to me.
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: November 23 2024 at 18:13
Martin and Ian were at their best We still need apogee, general crossing automotive engineering
------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: November 23 2024 at 19:54
Cristi wrote:
Jared wrote:
I really don't think you can make a silk purse out of a sow's ear....
nicely put, even a bit brutal.
As if the drums were the only problem with this album...
If ever the phrase "ill-advised" could be used, this would be the misbegotten album I would affix it to.
------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 24 2024 at 10:27
The Dark Elf wrote:
]If ever the phrase "ill-advised" could be used, this would be the misbegotten album I would affix it to.
It's a lot easier than redoing To the Power of Three so that it has good synth sounds and good songs!
Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: November 24 2024 at 16:16
I like most the remixed songs more than the originals. I wonder if Ian and Steven Wilson remix Under Wraps with a live drummer. Gavin could do it.
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: November 24 2024 at 18:42
omphaloskepsis wrote:
I like most the remixed songs more than the originals. I wonder if Ian and Steven Wilson remix Under Wraps with a live drummer. Gavin could do it.
I like how this guy did it. Think he just swapped drum samples. No drummer required which was Ian’s plan lol
------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 24 2024 at 19:08
I saw this tour. Everything onstage was literally under wraps.
That's all.
------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 25 2024 at 02:47
Just like Dave Gilmour pseudo-Floyd solo Permanent Lapse Of Reason, you can update the 80's atrocious sonics all you want(to no avail), the album will remain bad, because the songwriting is really weak.
There is maybe one UW track that would find a spot on either A or Tb&TB
Ditto for AMLOR, only the opening instrumental would find a spot on either TFC or TDB.
------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 25 2024 at 18:07
I think the drums were actually the biggest problem of that album, and so this helps a lot indeed. I've always loved Later That Same Evening. There are some other good songs on it. OK it's not a classic, still I always had a soft spot for it.
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: November 26 2024 at 00:34
Sean Trane wrote:
Just like Dave Gilmour pseudo-Floyd solo Permanent Lapse Of Reason, you can update the 80's atrocious sonics all you want(to no avail), the album will remain bad, because the songwriting is really weak.
There is maybe one UW track that would find a spot on either A or Tb&TB
Ditto for AMLOR, only the opening instrumental would find a spot on either TFC or TDB.
I’ll have it fairly even with A now with this production. Ian never sang better
------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: November 26 2024 at 00:41
Sean Trane wrote:
Just like Dave Gilmour pseudo-Floyd solo Permanent Lapse Of Reason, you can update the 80's atrocious sonics all you want(to no avail), the album will remain bad, because the songwriting is really weak.
There is maybe one UW track that would find a spot on either A or Tb&TB
Ditto for AMLOR, only the opening instrumental would find a spot on either TFC or TDB.
I’ll have it fairly even with A now with this production. Ian never sang better
------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: November 26 2024 at 06:40
dr prog wrote:
Ian never sang better
By any quantitative or qualitative measure, that statement is strictly delusional if you are referring to Under Wraps. Unless, of course, you prefer croaking to actual singing -- you know, like on Stand Up, Aqualung, Minstrel in the Gallery, or any album before Ian blew out his vocal chords.
------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: November 26 2024 at 14:54
The Dark Elf wrote:
dr prog wrote:
Ian never sang better
By any quantitative or qualitative measure, that statement is strictly delusional if you are referring to Under Wraps. Unless, of course, you prefer croaking to actual singing -- you know, like on Stand Up, Aqualung, Minstrel in the Gallery, or any album before Ian blew out his vocal chords.
Don’t like his voice much on minstrel. I think you need to listen to those remixes lol
------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: November 26 2024 at 16:47
dr prog wrote:
The Dark Elf wrote:
dr prog wrote:
Ian never sang better
By any quantitative or qualitative measure, that statement is strictly delusional if you are referring to Under Wraps. Unless, of course, you prefer croaking to actual singing -- you know, like on Stand Up, Aqualung, Minstrel in the Gallery, or any album before Ian blew out his vocal chords.
Don’t like his voice much on minstrel. I think you need to listen to those remixes lol
I'm certain you don't know what you're talking about lol
------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: November 26 2024 at 17:24
The Dark Elf wrote:
dr prog wrote:
The Dark Elf wrote:
dr prog wrote:
Ian never sang better
By any quantitative or qualitative measure, that statement is strictly delusional if you are referring to Under Wraps. Unless, of course, you prefer croaking to actual singing -- you know, like on Stand Up, Aqualung, Minstrel in the Gallery, or any album before Ian blew out his vocal chords.
Don’t like his voice much on minstrel. I think you need to listen to those remixes lol
I'm certain you don't know what you're talking about lol
Just because you love minstrel and I don’t lol. Overrated imo
------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 26 2024 at 17:49
^ Minstrel is a great hard-prog album by any standard.
His voice? Anderson has never had a great voice, a bit strained and nasopharyngeal.
------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: November 26 2024 at 20:05
Atavachron wrote:
^ Minstrel is a great hard-prog album by any standard.
His voice? Anderson has never had a great voice, a bit strained and nasopharyngeal.
He’s one of my fave vocalists of the 70s and early 80s. Probably is my fave.
------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 26 2024 at 21:15
^ And he's never had a great voice. One's favorite is not indicative of greatness.
On the other hand, very few singers in prog have had great voices--- Lake? Boyish and immature. Jon Anderson? A smurf. Wetton? No way. Gabriel had the most mature voice with a good range of tone, and lyrics as well.
------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: November 26 2024 at 21:23
Atavachron wrote:
^ And he's never had a great voice. One's favorite is not indicative of greatness.
On the other hand, very few singers in prog have had great voices--- Lake? Boyish and immature. Jon Anderson? A smurf. Wetton? No way. Gabriel had the most mature voice with a good range of tone, and lyrics as well.
I find Gabriel the least interesting lol I like other singers such as ozzy, gillan, dio, brown, sinclair, hammill etc
------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 26 2024 at 21:39
^ Exactly, mostly non-Prog, hard rock or Pop artists. It's always been that way, just the nature of the beast I guess--- F. Mercury, R. Plant, E. John, CS&N, great voices. Not Prog.
------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: November 27 2024 at 00:04
Di Giacomo another goodie
------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: November 27 2024 at 00:06
Clause Blasquiz
------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.