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richardh
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Posted: October 24 2022 at 02:44 |
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re ELOY, yep agree with a lot said. The recent Joan Of Arc albums are excellent but their creative peak is Colours to Time To Turn imo. I well remember the BBC taking a big interest at that time and that helped build them a small but enthusiastic fan base in the UK. Before that they were hardly known here although Ocean is generally their most highly regarded album in prog circles for sure.
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verslibre
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That's a different discussion. But, yes, I agree.
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Jared
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I'd agree with you. But as nadirs by established artists go, it's far from being the worst.
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verslibre
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Ra is by consensus Eloy's nadir.
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Lewian
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I'm with Kees on this one; Performance and Metromania are decent, but I already find Ra quite cringeworthy. To be honest, I never even listened to Destination. From The Tides... onwards they sound good again in my ears (it's mainly sound choices that ruin Ra) but I think the creativity has waned, I just find too little that enthuses me on these albums on the composition side. I'd probably also nominate Colours as my favourite album, and Planets/Time to Turn are pretty much up there. I think I'd take Schmidtchen's album and for sure Ego on the Rocks over anything Eloy did after and maybe including Metromania. I may not appreciate Faust as a whole either, but I do appreciate Matze's signature style pretty much everywhere, also the instrumental contributions of the others.
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verslibre
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Nothing beats the originals, but Eloy was more successful at those re-recordings than many other bands have been with theirs (looking at you, Tangerine Dream). My favorite album is probably Colours, but I love the albums that immediately follow, especially when they had dual keyboard players for certain songs.
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suitkees
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^ Alas, I don't like either. It is interesting you refer to the Chronicles set, because it is maybe illustrative of the change of the Eloy sound: I prefer the originals much more to these re-recordings/remixes. This change of sound started, maybe, with Metromania and, in my opinion, got only worse on the subsequent albums. From the warm symphonic and spacey sound it became, more robotic/computerized, calculated and without soul... Which is just my personal appreciation of course. |
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verslibre
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You don't like either volume of The Vision, the Sword and the Pyre? I think they're great. Eloy's done quite well since regrouping with their Chronicles set in '93.
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suitkees
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^ If/when I find the courage, I will listen to the Faust album again. If I still think it is very bad, I can send you the cd, if you wish... It is in that period that Eloy lost me a bit; Ra still had some good moments, but I found Destination rather cringe-worthy. Of what I've heard of their later work I only think Ocean 2 is worth while. I listened to the two Jeanne d'Arc albums, but in my opinion they're a lot worse than Destination...
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Lewian
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I somehow lost this from my radar and only listened to the Faust track now. I'm not keen on the singer and the drums, but the rest is glorious Eloy sound. There's something to enjoy for sure, even though overall it won't be a big favourite. I also listened to Detlev's Last Planet album again. His voice is a pain, but much of the album is instrumental, and the music is good, even very good in places. Edited by Lewian - October 20 2022 at 17:42 |
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Lewian
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Thanks Kees, nice find! I wasn't aware of this, and I'll listen to it later. @Last posters: Note that this thread is *not* about music that "sounds like Eloy" (whatever that means) but about music with Eloy or ex-Eloy members involved. I realise that Jane fits the bill though as Manfred Wieczorke played for both Jane and Eloy. (Personally I'm not a big fan of Jane, but they have their moments.) Edited by Lewian - August 13 2022 at 07:48 |
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I was thunking that the band JANE fit this area some ... in essence, I took to Jane before Eloy ...
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Eloy may be influenced by bands such as Pink Floyd and Jethro Tull. Still no one sounds like Eloy. Maybe a bit similar still Eloy are very unique. Really no one sounds “like” Eloy in my opinion. It’s not just the German accented narration. They are a band loved by many and I am one of the many. When I want to hear Eloy sounding music I take out Silent Cries and Mighty Echoes or Ocean and don’t really look for another band. I do like other space Prog rock bands. None of them sound like Eloy to me and this is one of the things that makes them so special.
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Eloy may be influenced by bands such as Pink Floyd and Jethro Tull. Still no one sounds like Eloy. Maybe a bit similar still Eloy are very unique. Really no one sounds “like” Eloy in my opinion. It’s not just the German accented narration. They are a band loved by many and I am one of the many. When I want to hear Eloy sounding music I take out Silent Cries and Mighty Echoes or Ocean and don’t really look for another band. I do like other space Prog rock bands. None of them sound like Eloy to me and this is one of the things that makes them so good.
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suitkees
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^ No, this is not the band Faust. Faust - The Rockballett (sic) is the original title of this project, "performed by Shade" as the album says, but this was just a one off. See the discogs page.
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kenethlevine
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Is that the same FAUST that is on PA? If so, I can't find an album by that name in their discog
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suitkees
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Faust - The Rock Ballet. Not very good if you ask me... I bought the album back then because it was Eloy related. They're all there except Frank Borneman: Hannes Arkona, Hannes Folberth, Klaus-Peter Matziol, Jim McGillivray (their early 80s line-up) with Jürgen Rosenthal for the libretto and lyrics. And Kalle Bösel added on vocals and keyboards (don't know who that is). I may have listened to this thing once and I'm a bit afraid to listen to it again... |
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Lewian
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I don't know more than can be read around the video I'm afraid.
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kenethlevine
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yes, Syrinx Call is really good, and apparently current. Does that album have Eloy on other songs as well? It starts a bit like Poseidon's Creation, but ends up much folkier.
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verslibre
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Yes, that Syrinx Call track is excellent.
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