Some Eloy-related music
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Topic: Some Eloy-related music
Posted By: Lewian
Subject: Some Eloy-related music
Date Posted: July 13 2022 at 06:00
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The Eloy vs Nektar poll earlier reminded me that I always wanted to hear something from Matziol's solo album. Now there's some stuff on youtube. I should warn you, this is really not bass oriented and you shouldn't have wrong expectations. Be open-minded to enjoy this stuff.  (I do promise that some of the stuff posted is seriously good, but, errr, probably not all of it.)This is a single from the 80s. It's actually Neue Deutsche Welle (German new wave), so at least no German accents. Lyrics are quite political. Peace & socialism!  Instrumental B-side. I like this, but really bass & complexity fans look elsewhere! Another fairly easy listening instrumental: The last one is the one I like most, and it's actually from 2021! Not from Matze's solo album, but apparently a guest appearance of Eloy members. Great to see Frank, Matze, and Hannes here. |
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 13 2022 at 06:03
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Some will know the Ego on the Rocks - Acid in Wounderland album by Detlev Schmidtchen and Jurgen Rosenthal. Actually this is a very cool and fun album. It would've helped hiring a singer, but still I love this. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 13 2022 at 06:03
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It seems Detlev Schmidtchen has done a good number of solo albums. Anyone who knows some of that stuff? Ah here... can't exactly say I'm a fan of it, but anyway, I somehow enjoy digging for this kind of thing. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 13 2022 at 06:08
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Full album on youtube... I need more time listening but actually this seems much more to my taste than his song above. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 13 2022 at 06:18
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...and just to collect stuff here (no more time for listening right now but will certainly check it out, I was always curious to hear this), I can also now find the Eloy-album without Frank on youtube. Codename Wildgeese. |
Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: July 13 2022 at 08:37
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That 'Ego on the Rocks' lp is an all time favourite of mine! Very trippy and a bit bonkers but more down to earth and 'new wave' in sound.. Definitely an antidote to the slightly (?) more 'Astral' stuff Eloy had been producing at that point. ------------- |
Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: July 13 2022 at 08:52
| I like Ego on the Rocks...haven't heard the others and am especially interested in codename wildgeese. Thanks for posting! |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: July 13 2022 at 10:35
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Great thread, Lewian. I know a lot of fans don't consider Codename: Wildgeese a "true" Eloy effort (the name was used without Frank's permission), but I like it. It's a good one for Tangerine Dream fans. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: August 05 2022 at 08:03
| I quite liked Codename Wildgeese and the synth sounds of the Matziol tunes. Not a fan of the neu deutsche well song. Haven't listened to Detlev yet |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: August 05 2022 at 16:11
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Did you listen to the Syrinx Call? That's my favourite out of these. Codename Wildgeese is hit and miss for me. Detlev's album has some very nice bits, but I'd probably leave both of these at 3 stars (which of course means "good"). |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: August 05 2022 at 19:18
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Yes, that Syrinx Call track is excellent. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: August 05 2022 at 22:09
| yes, Syrinx Call is really good, and apparently current. Does that album have Eloy on other songs as well? It starts a bit like Poseidon's Creation, but ends up much folkier. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: August 06 2022 at 02:41
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I don't know more than can be read around the video I'm afraid. |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: August 06 2022 at 03:36
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Faust - The Rock Ballet. Not very good if you ask me... I bought the album back then because it was Eloy related. They're all there except Frank Borneman: Hannes Arkona, Hannes Folberth, Klaus-Peter Matziol, Jim McGillivray (their early 80s line-up) with Jürgen Rosenthal for the libretto and lyrics. And Kalle Bösel added on vocals and keyboards (don't know who that is). I may have listened to this thing once and I'm a bit afraid to listen to it again... ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: August 06 2022 at 08:12
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Is that the same FAUST that is on PA? If so, I can't find an album by that name in their discog |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: August 06 2022 at 09:42
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^ No, this is not the band Faust. Faust - The Rockballett (sic) is the original title of this project, "performed by Shade" as the album says, but this was just a one off. See the https://www.discogs.com/fr/master/615236-Shade-Faust-The-Rockballett" rel="nofollow - discogs page . ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: PaulG
Date Posted: August 10 2022 at 18:15
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Eloy may be influenced by bands such as Pink Floyd and Jethro Tull. Still no one sounds like Eloy. Maybe a bit similar still Eloy are very unique. Really no one sounds “like” Eloy in my opinion. It’s not just the German accented narration. They are a band loved by many and I am one of the many. When I want to hear Eloy sounding music I take out Silent Cries and Mighty Echoes or Ocean and don’t really look for another band. I do like other space Prog rock bands. None of them sound like Eloy to me and this is one of the things that makes them so good. |
Posted By: PaulG
Date Posted: August 10 2022 at 18:16
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Eloy may be influenced by bands such as Pink Floyd and Jethro Tull. Still no one sounds like Eloy. Maybe a bit similar still Eloy are very unique. Really no one sounds “like” Eloy in my opinion. It’s not just the German accented narration. They are a band loved by many and I am one of the many. When I want to hear Eloy sounding music I take out Silent Cries and Mighty Echoes or Ocean and don’t really look for another band. I do like other space Prog rock bands. None of them sound like Eloy to me and this is one of the things that makes them so special. |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 13 2022 at 07:08
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Hi I was thunking that the band JANE fit this area some ... in essence, I took to Jane before Eloy ... ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: August 13 2022 at 07:48
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Thanks Kees, nice find! I wasn't aware of this, and I'll listen to it later. @Last posters: Note that this thread is *not* about music that "sounds like Eloy" (whatever that means) but about music with Eloy or ex-Eloy members involved. I realise that Jane fits the bill though as Manfred Wieczorke played for both Jane and Eloy. (Personally I'm not a big fan of Jane, but they have their moments.) |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: October 20 2022 at 16:40
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I somehow lost this from my radar and only listened to the Faust track now. I'm not keen on the singer and the drums, but the rest is glorious Eloy sound. There's something to enjoy for sure, even though overall it won't be a big favourite. I also listened to Detlev's Last Planet album again. His voice is a pain, but much of the album is instrumental, and the music is good, even very good in places. |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: October 22 2022 at 06:16
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^ If/when I find the courage, I will listen to the Faust album again. If I still think it is very bad, I can send you the cd, if you wish... It is in that period that Eloy lost me a bit; Ra still had some good moments, but I found Destination rather cringe-worthy. Of what I've heard of their later work I only think Ocean 2 is worth while. I listened to the two Jeanne d'Arc albums, but in my opinion they're a lot worse than Destination... ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 22 2022 at 10:46
You don't like either volume of The Vision, the Sword and the Pyre? I think they're great. Eloy's done quite well since regrouping with their Chronicles set in '93. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
suitkees wrote:Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: October 22 2022 at 11:31
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^ Alas, I don't like either. It is interesting you refer to the Chronicles set, because it is maybe illustrative of the change of the Eloy sound: I prefer the originals much more to these re-recordings/remixes. This change of sound started, maybe, with Metromania and, in my opinion, got only worse on the subsequent albums. From the warm symphonic and spacey sound it became, more robotic/computerized, calculated and without soul... Which is just my personal appreciation of course. ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 22 2022 at 11:53
Nothing beats the originals, but Eloy was more successful at those re-recordings than many other bands have been with theirs (looking at you, Tangerine Dream). My favorite album is probably Colours, but I love the albums that immediately follow, especially when they had dual keyboard players for certain songs. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: October 23 2022 at 05:12
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I'm with Kees on this one; Performance and Metromania are decent, but I already find Ra quite cringeworthy. To be honest, I never even listened to Destination. From The Tides... onwards they sound good again in my ears (it's mainly sound choices that ruin Ra) but I think the creativity has waned, I just find too little that enthuses me on these albums on the composition side. I'd probably also nominate Colours as my favourite album, and Planets/Time to Turn are pretty much up there. I think I'd take Schmidtchen's album and for sure Ego on the Rocks over anything Eloy did after and maybe including Metromania. I may not appreciate Faust as a whole either, but I do appreciate Matze's signature style pretty much everywhere, also the instrumental contributions of the others. |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 23 2022 at 11:15
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Ra is by consensus Eloy's nadir. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: October 23 2022 at 12:06
I'd agree with you. But as nadirs by established artists go, it's far from being the worst.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 23 2022 at 13:23
That's a different discussion. But, yes, I agree. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 24 2022 at 02:44
| re ELOY, yep agree with a lot said. The recent Joan Of Arc albums are excellent but their creative peak is Colours to Time To Turn imo. I well remember the BBC taking a big interest at that time and that helped build them a small but enthusiastic fan base in the UK. Before that they were hardly known here although Ocean is generally their most highly regarded album in prog circles for sure. |