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Dellinger ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: June 18 2009 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 12816 |
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Yes I know, but if you like extreme vocals you would think Peter Hamill wouldn't be so bad. |
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Jared ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 06 2005 Location: Hereford, UK Status: Offline Points: 20388 |
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Wouldn't you say that was a little... extreme? Care to stand against that wall sir? ![]() |
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SteveG ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20617 |
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Dellinger ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: June 18 2009 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 12816 |
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My Wife also likes some Metal with extreme vocals (mostly symphonic metal), and when she heard some Van Der Graaf Generator that I got she really hated his vocals... specially on songs like The Sleepwalkers and La Rossa (which I think actually border grunting). |
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Dellinger ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: June 18 2009 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 12816 |
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First, there are many prog metal bands that don't use extreme vocals... actually, the ones I would consider the most representative ones don't (except for Opeth). If you do like the metal element and combined with prog, but without harsh vocals, then you might check out (if you haven't yet) Dream Theater, Ayreon, Pain of Salvation, Riverside, and Haken. I myself am not a fan of harsh vocals either, though I have come to tolerate them a bit better with time. First, well, before getting into metal, prog metal... or even prog as such, I guess, I came to know Pink Floyd and the song Careful with that Axe, Eugene... first I though WTF... but soon I came to love it... But well, now for metal and harsh vocals... I guess the first I tried to know were Opeth (besides many symphonic metal bands with harsh vocals that my wife liked), mostly looking for the songs they had without harsh vocals... and most of the songs I like from them are those ones; there is only one with harsh vocals that I came to like, "The Drapery Falls", live version from Lamentations... though strange enough, it has become my favourite song from them. Then, looking for some more prog metal I came to know Devin Townsend. Now, I have come to tolerate harsh vocals on a very few songs that I like so much that I decided to just enjoy them despite those vocals (like "The Drapery Falls" that I already mentioned), but Devin Townsend is the only artist that has made me actually enjoy his harsh vocals (in some cases)... I don't know, it's just something in the way he uses them that works so well, like he really gives meaning to the grunting and the growling and the screaming.
Now, the selected songs that I do like that feature grunting are: Forever, by Macbeth; Cry for the Moon, by Epica (though there seems to be another one from their latest album that I might add to the list); The Final Victory, by Haggard; Alma Mater, by Moonspell; Seclusion, by Penumbra; Ecstatic, by Trail of Tears; Star-crossed, by Sirenia. I got to know all of these because my wife had all this albums, and I decided to give them a try, otherwise I might have never know this music. Also The Drapery Falls from Opeth, and the songs that make up an epic song on Wilderun's album Sleep at the Edge of the Earth. And from Devin Townsend the ones I have liked best are "Earth Day" and "Planet Smasher", as well as Loser from Ayreon, in which he is a guest singer. |
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"All extremists should be shot".
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I have no problem with extreme vocals, but sometimes when they are either performed in a generic fashion, or just don´t suit the instrumental part of the music, I´m put off...but that goes for regular clean singing too. So it all depends on the singer. Personally some of my favorite extreme metal singers are those who are able to articulate every word while delivering a face melting growl. If they add a spoonful of aggression, I´m usually all in.
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Stressed Cheese ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 16 2022 Location: The Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 540 |
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I doubt it...she's not really into prog. She really only listens to types of screamy metal I don't even know the genre names of.
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Stressed Cheese ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 16 2022 Location: The Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 540 |
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I can't stand this either. It's too white-noise-y to me. Like, I can stand some weird or noisy stuff, but this has no sense of harmony or relation to the rest of the music anymore. It'd be the same to me as putting the sound of a vacuum cleaner over the music instead of a vocalist.
It's interesting though, my mom listens to this kind of stuff, with growling vocals and blast beats (another thing I find is just white noise that distracts from the music), but she finds stuff like Zappa or ELP noise and 'nervous'. Go figure. Edited by Stressed Cheese - July 07 2022 at 08:18 |
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Hugh Manatee ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 07 2021 Location: The Barricades Status: Offline Points: 1587 |
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I get a chuckle any time someone tries to tell me how difficult it is to make your voice do that.
I usually respond with a growling "No it's not" I don't mind little bits of growling, but constant throat-vomit sounds turn me off. I especially don't like it when I'm listening in my car, with the windows open. It's embarrassing when someone hearts me go by.
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I had an album of In The Woods, and I've got a CD by Ulver. Very good !
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of what i heard the music was stellar but the growling ruined it for me.. Recently i came across this, and i really dig it.. not all growling but mixed in nicely. Edited by CosmicVibration - July 05 2022 at 19:28 |
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Hugh Manatee ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 07 2021 Location: The Barricades Status: Offline Points: 1587 |
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Those vocalists certainly seem like they are very upset about something, I just can't quite make out what.
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mathman0806 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2014 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6822 |
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I can listen as a contrast to other things going on. Difficult when it's wall to wall through an entire song. Though as a novelty, it can be amusing. Of which, this was on America's Got Talent last week.
They claim to be the world's only full metal choir, but there had to be others, no? Edited by mathman0806 - July 06 2022 at 03:56 |
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I love them. In fact the more extreme the better.
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