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    Posted: January 23 2021 at 05:44
Totally agree. I love Supper's Ready and I really like Battle of Epping Forest, for a while it was my favourite song on the album.
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I think it’s brilliant too. I somewhat agree about More Fool Me. I don’t think it’s particularly good, but I’m not too offended by it. I dislike the tedious chorus of I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe) more.
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It´s an absolutely brilliant song...

...the only song on that album which should have been left off is "More Fool Me". Even for the more pop oriented Genesis tracks, it´s a bit of a boring stinker...I´ll take 80s Genesis any day over that one...
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I was contemplating my listening habits regarding the early to late 70's, when I only had about 30 to 40 vinyls in my prog collection....I didn't get bored with any track even though repetition was far more prevalent than now that I have thousands of CD's to spin...but that much wider selection has made me appreciate the mid 70's classics even more not less...supoose thats just me though...
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After careful review of this thread, all I know for certain is that I'm breaking the leg of the b*****d that got me framed.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Not everyone hates this song. In fact, most of us actually love it! Tongue
 

Some of us are just bored with it but I understand why it exists. However the general flow of an album is important to me and I'm not convinced that it really helps in that regards. Too much stopping and starting. 2 minutes turns into an extra 7 minutes or whatever . Yep its prog but all I hear is messing about.

Ok. But have you got bored with "understanding" yet? I gotta know? 😎
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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

^ I have never heard that before...your source?


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Ahh. Seems plausable...as long as he was notorious in Wandsworth...a prison I believe....no mention of that in wikipedia...😎
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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Apologies up front if this has been mentioned previously. The 'Liquid Len' referenced in the lyrics is Jonthan Smeeton who was the lighting and production designer on Hawkwind's highly acclaimed Space Ritual tour who subsequently went on to work with Peter Gabriel. Does this make the Battle of Epping Forest any better? Nah.

I never knew this, if true! I always hear the that line in the song, too "...And his friend, Liquid Len by name..."

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Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Not everyone hates this song. In fact, most of us actually love it! Tongue
 

Some of us are just bored with it but I understand why it exists. However the general flow of an album is important to me and I'm not convinced that it really helps in that regards. Too much stopping and starting. 2 minutes turns into an extra 7 minutes or whatever . Yep its prog but all I hear is messing about.
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Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

^ I have never heard that before...your source?


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Not everyone hates this song. In fact, most of us actually love it! Tongue
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Best song on album and better than Supper
All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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^ I have never heard that before...your source?
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Apologies up front if this has been mentioned previously. The 'Liquid Len' referenced in the lyrics is Jonthan Smeeton who was the lighting and production designer on Hawkwind's highly acclaimed Space Ritual tour who subsequently went on to work with Peter Gabriel. Does this make the Battle of Epping Forest any better? Nah.
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I like BOEF but it is a little too "wordy". I honestly think it would have been better if PG had cut a few bits out. However overall it still has me singing along so it's a thumbs up.
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Sacro_Porgo Sacro_Porgo wrote:

Bob the Nob came out on his job, to see what the trouble was.

The one Bob The Nob that got lobbed across the gob??


Correct!

His kisser was also a mess, and he seemed under stress Cool.

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Originally posted by Sacro_Porgo Sacro_Porgo wrote:

Bob the Nob came out on his job, to see what the trouble was.

The one Bob The Nob that got lobbed across the gob??

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Originally posted by Frankh Frankh wrote:

She rang the bell

And quick as Hell

I love the thing. Always have. Always will.

Don't make me say it again! lol

('cause I will.)


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She rang the bell

And quick as Hell

I love the thing. Always have. Always will.

Don't make me say it again! lol

('cause I will.)
Perhaps finding the happy medium is harder than we know.
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Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

Yeah as an actor, I eat this stuff up. I love the theatricality of it all, the track and Genesis as a whole. It's actually a dream of mine to perform music like this and become characters on stage. Fuses my love of music and theater. If I could find some way to shove paleontology in there, I'd cover all my passions. 

As for the lyrics, I get that it isn't relatable for most people. But a quick trip to Genius Lyrics can explain them. They are genius.

I'm surprised Genesis don't have a song about paleontology, lol. What with The Return Of The Giant Hogweed and all.
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