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    Posted: February 13 2020 at 06:52
^ Damnation is  rather low in your list
one of my favorite albums
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How does everyone rank the newest album in their discography? For me it goes something like this

Ghost Reveries
Still Life
BWP
My arms your herse
In Cauda Venenum
Damnation
Watershed
Pale

Not familiar enough with the rest but I think all the above albums are really good

I just thought the new one was really solid, especiallly love heart in hand

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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by LAM-SGC LAM-SGC wrote:

What is a boomer? And who are you addressing? I Will reply anyway.Yes, there is a big difference between fact and opinion,most people know that. Your thread title is just your opinion. The fact is that the metal community here in Sweden disowned Opeth many years ago. Why do you think the stadium was two thirds empty when they were support band for Iron Maiden many years ago. But when In Flames supported Judas Priset here the stadium was almost full from the beginning. I must assume that boomer is something rude and that you are just a rude person. But just because you think your opinion is right doesn't make it fact. Also, this is just music, so calm down and chill out boomer.


How is In Flames doing in Sweden? Are they popular? More respected than Opeth?
Because In Flames has definitely lost identity, even worse than Opeth, they went so far away from what they once were, they're unrecognizable now.


Still very popular, but obviously not as much as years ago. I saw them a couple of times between 2004-2006,and they were great. then again once in about 2012-2014, and they were awful.

The ressurgence of Swedish power metal again in recent years is really interesting, Sabaton, Ghost, Lancer, Anaranthe, Wolf.That said, power metal in Sweden has never gone away but it dipped a lot about ten years ago. Fewer gigs, fewer bands.But Sabaton and Ghost gave it the injection it needed.

Of course the extreme, HC, black and death metal styles all have massive followings with hundreds of bands and loads of gigs every week,Incarnit are great,another band with two of my friends in it. They did a USA tour last year, and now they are in Poland.

But recently, the most interesting stuff, in my opinion is the new wave of retro, doom,stoner, fuzz, drone, acid, 60s & 70s-hard rock styles with bands like Avatarium, Lykantropi, Deerslayer, Truckfighters, Hällas, Nattramn (No not the 90s Nattramn - I asked my friend Rickard, singer in Nattramn having a drink at our metal club after the gig on Saturday, what he says to people who criticize him for using that band name and he lifted his long finger and said, "I say fvk them" ;) )

And of course the old school of 60s, 70s retro in Sweden with bands like Abramis Brama, Graveyard, Horisont.
Also, lots of goth, synth and industrial metal bands are still really popular, my favourites for years are Draconian (goth, death) and Deathstars (goth, synth).


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Originally posted by LAM-SGC LAM-SGC wrote:

What is a boomer? And who are you addressing? I Will reply anyway.Yes, there is a big difference between fact and opinion,most people know that. Your thread title is just your opinion. The fact is that the metal community here in Sweden disowned Opeth many years ago. Why do you think the stadium was two thirds empty when they were support band for Iron Maiden many years ago. But when In Flames supported Judas Priset here the stadium was almost full from the beginning. I must assume that boomer is something rude and that you are just a rude person. But just because you think your opinion is right doesn't make it fact. Also, this is just music, so calm down and chill out boomer.


How is In Flames doing in Sweden? Are they popular? More respected than Opeth?
Because In Flames has definitely lost identity, even worse than Opeth, they went so far away from what they once were, they're unrecognizable now.
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As someone that's been personally involved with and played and recorded in the progressive, technical, and avant metal scene for years...

...Opeth bores me to tears. Give me Edge of Sanity over Opeth any day of the week.

"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021
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What is a boomer? And who are you addressing? I Will reply anyway.Yes, there is a big difference between fact and opinion,most people know that. Your thread title is just your opinion. The fact is that the metal community here in Sweden disowned Opeth many years ago. Why do you think the stadium was two thirds empty when they were support band for Iron Maiden many years ago. But when In Flames supported Judas Priest here the stadium was almost full from the beginning. I must assume that boomer is something rude and that you are just a rude person. But just because you think your opinion is right doesn't make it fact. Also, this is just music, so calm down and chill out boomer.

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^ I don’t think he said anything rude enough to warrant that response. Opeth is one of my favorites, metal or not
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Okay BoomerLOL There are many great bands, especially metal, from Sweden. I realize that Opeth is no longer very metal and probably not praised much anymore in Sweden but my referring to them as Gods of Metal is merely an opinion that you disagree with. This thread is just for people who are fans of Opeth, like myself, to discuss and appreciate their art. There's of course nothing wrong with disagreeing but please realize the difference between fact and opinion.
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It will surprise you to know that in Sweden Opeth aren't even close to being considered the Swedish Gods of Metal. Swedish metalheads gave up on them many years ago. Unlike most countries Sweden has dozens of great metal bands of all genres in the first division, there isn't one metal band that Swedes consider to be above all others. The old school Holy Trinity here is still considered to be Candlemass, Bathory and Entombed. But nowadays, the top five would be Mesuggah, At the Gates, In Flames, Amon Amarth and Sabaton. Not to mention all the great new retro, doom, fuzz,drone,stoner bands that are now rising quickly in these post-Hipster years.   
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Originally posted by fracturematt fracturematt wrote:

The Swedish gods of metal are obviously Meshuggah.  However, Opeth takes a close 2nd.  :)


Before Opeth and Meshuggah, there was Candlemass. Big smile
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The Swedish gods of metal are obviously Meshuggah.  However, Opeth takes a close 2nd.  :)
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I do like some Opeth a good bit. However, they have been somewhat frustrating, since I do love metal (and prog metal), but hardly like growls. So they did a few metal songs without growls, but whenever they have done their albums without growls altogether, they are hardly metal at all. I still have to listen to the new one, which sounds a bit heavier than their later ones... and being in swedish sounds really interesting. However, my overall favourite song from them is indeed the only one I like with growls, which is The Drapery Falls (live version from Lamentations).
I think there is metal also in Sorceress, but maybe it sounds just metal into me, maybe it´s not metal enough to metal fans (drowning in metal).


Yeah, Sorceress has some nice heavy moments, and is actually my favourite album from them so far. I just heard a few songs from the new one, and it seems it's got some even heavier moments... I do hope so.
Well, I think as much as in Sorceress. But at the moment I like Sorceress more than the new one, although it´s good too. I think I´ll listen Pale Communion this weekend, because I have listened it least from the Opeth albums I´ve heard.
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Ghost Reveries came in the mail and I gotta say, its one of my favorite albums ever made, leaving a review sunday :D
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Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

I do like some Opeth a good bit. However, they have been somewhat frustrating, since I do love metal (and prog metal), but hardly like growls. So they did a few metal songs without growls, but whenever they have done their albums without growls altogether, they are hardly metal at all. I still have to listen to the new one, which sounds a bit heavier than their later ones... and being in swedish sounds really interesting. However, my overall favourite song from them is indeed the only one I like with growls, which is The Drapery Falls (live version from Lamentations).
I think there is metal also in Sorceress, but maybe it sounds just metal into me, maybe it´s not metal enough to metal fans (drowning in metal).


Yeah, Sorceress has some nice heavy moments, and is actually my favourite album from them so far. I just heard a few songs from the new one, and it seems it's got some even heavier moments... I do hope so.
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Opeth have always been strange experience to me, love Orchid there is something very fresh about that album and I re-listen from time to time, but never got too much into the next 7 albums, ok’ish for a heavy playlist but did not really get me boiling as albums.

Then came Watershed and I was hooked again for a while, but was very indifferent towards Heritage and Pale Communion , albums I found to be for the most part uninteresting (just as Wilson solo albums often was to me) to the point where I never bothered with Sorceress and to this day haven’t heard. Then did check out In Cauda Venenum and liked it, in my opinion some of the worst prog cliché is now gone and we are getting what to me is a better more clean rock output with its own unique thing – yet far from the Metal animal Opeth once was.   

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Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

I do like some Opeth a good bit. However, they have been somewhat frustrating, since I do love metal (and prog metal), but hardly like growls. So they did a few metal songs without growls, but whenever they have done their albums without growls altogether, they are hardly metal at all. I still have to listen to the new one, which sounds a bit heavier than their later ones... and being in swedish sounds really interesting. However, my overall favourite song from them is indeed the only one I like with growls, which is The Drapery Falls (live version from Lamentations).
I think there is metal also in Sorceress, but maybe it sounds just metal into me, maybe it´s not metal enough to metal fans (drowning in metal).
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My copy of Still Life on vinyl came yesterday and it sounds incredible, ghost reveries should be here tomorrow!
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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

The Swedish metal gods are Entombed

Anyways...love me some Orchid. Funny how that goes. Most on here jumped on the bandwagon, when Opeth started to incorporate prog into the mix...even more so when they ditched the growls, yet that was the point I lost interest in the band.
But yeah that debut of theirs is just brilliant. I still spin it from time to time to clear out the old sinuses


Entombed kicked off the Swedish metal scene for sure!

My favorite Opeth album is Orchid. After that i love the prog but the drumming style rubs me the wrong way.

Other worthy metal gods from Sweden include Candlemass, Bathory, Pain of Salvation, Therion and Meshuggah. All pioneers in their own ways.

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Becoming one of my favorite bands...


Guess who is buying a ticket to see them live tomorrow :)

Love al eras of Opeth, ICV is one of their best albums
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I do like some Opeth a good bit. However, they have been somewhat frustrating, since I do love metal (and prog metal), but hardly like growls. So they did a few metal songs without growls, but whenever they have done their albums without growls altogether, they are hardly metal at all. I still have to listen to the new one, which sounds a bit heavier than their later ones... and being in swedish sounds really interesting. However, my overall favourite song from them is indeed the only one I like with growls, which is The Drapery Falls (live version from Lamentations).
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