Immediate Ruination of New Music?

BaldJean wrote: wiz_d_kidd wrote: BaldJean wrote: ...but this is nothing that will deter me forever; I just have to get used to this unusual vocal delivery Why would you try to get used to something that doesn't please you?  There is SO much music out there.  The "New Prog Releases" blog alone lists 1000-1500 new prog albums every year.  If an album doesn't capture my attention and sound pleasing to me from the onset, I move on.  There is lots more to choose from. you misunderstand me. these unusual vocal styles don't really displease me, they merely irritate me, like anything that is new. by your approach you would have to reject anything new if it doesn't immediately please you. if you are used to a certain can opener and get a new one that looks and works quite differently you would be irritated too. but would you really reject this new can opener for this reason? I doubt it. so why do it with a new vocal style?

OK, peace.  If I "might" like something, especially something completely new, I certainly do give it a chance.  I listen to new music almost daily.  If, when I listen to it, I know that I absolutely don't like it, I move on.  I don't like thrash metal... not matter how many times I'm exposed to it, and I'm not going to subject myself to that irritation in the hopes that I might like it some day.  It's not about something being new (or bad, as ExittheLemming thinks I am implying)... it's about disliking something, and being certain about it, and moving on.  Certain things trigger that "absolute dislike" button of mine.

I didn't like Indian and Mexican food on first acquaintance (in Glasgow, Scotland) but now I love them both (burp). How can a person's musical appreciation grow unless they are exposed to an external stimulus that is initially foreign to them BUT which will clearly take take time to be assimilated? Have you heard of a self fulfilling prophecy? If what does not please you on first acquaintance you consider BAD then you are clearly a myopic self righteous cretin.

I am a bit more careful about calling vocals "bad". yes, there often is some unusual singing and you go "wtf?" at first. this even happened to me with VdGG (the first album I heard of them was "Godbluff", and I went "wtf?" about the rasp whispering at the beginning), but this is nothing that will deter me forever; I just have to get used to this unusual vocal delivery (you should hear what strange things BaldFriede does with her voice; it would probably make many people dislike the two albums of the Bald Angels immediately)

'Immediate ruination of new music'...?

Mascodagama wrote: Rednight wrote: wiz_d_kidd wrote: For me, it's the appearance of gratuitous, mediocre vocals.  You mean like those of Area? You are correct, sir. You could apply a lot of adjectives to Demetrio Stratos' vocals, and obviously nobody is obliged to like them, but “mediocre”? Not hardly.

Agreed, like someone who can't swim describing the Mediterranean Sea as 'moist'

Edited by ExittheLemming - March 31 2018 at 06:07

wiz_d_kidd wrote: I listened to that piece, and had the same reaction.  Immediate ruination at the 32 sec mark!

Edited by jayem - March 31 2018 at 06:26

I always try to appreciate a song for what it is, or what it might have been. Composition is what I dig.
A lot of new prog bands don't have the $ to get the perfect sound. But, you can still appreciate the attempt. It's easy to criticize, but people who give it a go are to be commended. There is much beauty to be found in home brewed prog.

It hasn't happened to me yet.

ExittheLemming wrote: Sean Trane wrote: Frenetic Zetetic wrote: Sterilized production. indeed... And 80's aesthetics and production values (gated drums, cheap synths, etc...) and 00's remaster conditions (loudness wars). I like my rock (and prog and jazz) to be somewhat dirty (as opposed to pristine production) Whiny neo-prog/Hogarth styled vocals are also a big turn-off Agree wholeheartedly. There are rock albums containing much fine music that I find almost impossible to listen to all the way through because of the wanton overuse of compression which only serves to suck the life and dynamics out of otherwise admirable playing. Can't name too many examples from Prog but one case in point:The Construcktion of Light by King Crimson

Sean Trane wrote: Frenetic Zetetic wrote: Sterilized production. indeed... And 80's aesthetics and production values (gated drums, cheap synths, etc...) and 00's remaster conditions (loudness wars). I like my rock (and prog and jazz) to be somewhat dirty (as opposed to pristine production) Whiny neo-prog/Hogarth styled vocals are also a big turn-off

Agree wholeheartedly. There are rock albums containing much fine music that I find almost impossible to listen to all the way through because of the wanton overuse of compression which only serves to suck the life and dynamics out of otherwise admirable playing. Can't name too many examples from Prog but one case in point: The Construcktion of Light by King Crimson

Edited by ExittheLemming - March 29 2018 at 05:29