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Borealis 
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Joined: May 06 2005 Location: Neutral Zone Status: Offline Points: 599 |
 Topic: rating with no reviewPosted: August 28 2005 at 17:15 |
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I can't really answer to that, but I doubt this would really happen... |
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Vive le Québec libre!...
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Jimbo
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 28 2005 Location: Helsinki Status: Offline Points: 2818 |
Posted: August 28 2005 at 16:57 |
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Yeah, but what if someone from (for example) China decided to write a review in his native language? No one would probably understand it. How could we be sure that he wrote anything about the music? |
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Borealis
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Joined: May 06 2005 Location: Neutral Zone Status: Offline Points: 599 |
Posted: August 28 2005 at 16:20 |
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The language seem to be a priority for you, but, honestly, I do not see any problem with a review in a foreign language. A good review in another language is a lot of time better than no review. It might also motivate more people (such as me) to write reviews if they do not feel comfortable enough with their english. And then, it will help some people who are in difficulty with english to understand better the reviewing, and might even bring more people to the site. And I would push it further, and force to write for over 150 words. |
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Vive le Québec libre!...
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MikeEnRegalia
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21599 |
Posted: August 28 2005 at 16:06 |
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^
 so let's wait and see what happens ... maybe our "prayers" will be heard.
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Easy Livin
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
Posted: August 28 2005 at 16:03 |
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Mike, I agree I agree I agree!!!!! See my post above, it ain't my call! |
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MikeEnRegalia
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21599 |
Posted: August 28 2005 at 14:38 |
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EL: I still don't see why my approach wouldn't work:
This would be VERY easy to implement, and it's quite compatible with how the system works now. I admit that I'm very curious to see who made all those 1 star rating for the prog metal masterpieces ... |
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Easy Livin
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
Posted: August 28 2005 at 14:22 |
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Goose, the problem with reviews not in English is moderating them. How do we know if they comply with the guidelines? I readily admit the word "ignorant" is entirely valid, but we are where we are. |
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goose
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Joined: June 20 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 4097 |
Posted: August 28 2005 at 12:56 |
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I don't see the problem with foreign language reviews, so long as they could be filtered out for we ignorant people who only speak one language.
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Ricochet
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 27 2005 Location: Nauru Status: Offline Points: 46301 |
Posted: August 28 2005 at 10:02 |
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I think that the procedure is correct,that category does not ask you for your opinion,or a short commentary,but for a review,which by definition,has to contain a larger amount of information and presentation than a normal opinion... |
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Snow Dog
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
Posted: August 28 2005 at 09:59 |
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This is correct, in Britain the word sl*g is well known as a woman who sleeps around! Very common word, but not that bad to say in speech. There are far worse words.. |
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Easy Livin
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
Posted: August 28 2005 at 09:59 |
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I've already indicated I personally support your proposal that ratings only reviews should not be accepted. The decision on whether or not to included them (or how to treat them if they are accepted) lies with the site owners, Rony & M@X. |
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MikeEnRegalia
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21599 |
Posted: August 28 2005 at 09:52 |
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I'm not talking about the front page - I'm talking about the album page, where you go to find out all about the album. Currently you only see a part of the ratings ... it would be an enormous help for me to see who made these reviewless ratings. I suspect that it's only a small number of people who make these ratings. |
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Ricochet
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 27 2005 Location: Nauru Status: Offline Points: 46301 |
Posted: August 28 2005 at 09:48 |
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Let's take for example me writing a review on "Foxtrot",saying: "I like it...it is good" 6 words and a five-star rating,would you post that on the front page? I agree with EL,reviews have to have a decent substance within to be published on the main page... |
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MikeEnRegalia
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21599 |
Posted: August 28 2005 at 09:44 |
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And just why are ratings without reviews not listed on the reviews pages? It's not fair to all the people who bothered to write a review. If a single 1 star rating eithout review was listed among a series of elaborate 5 star reviews, people could put the 1 star rating into proper relation. |
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Easy Livin
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
Posted: August 28 2005 at 09:40 |
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Just to clarify, reviews with less than 50 words are accepted, they just don't appear on the reviews pages. They are effectively treated as ratings without reviews.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21599 |
Posted: August 28 2005 at 03:02 |
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See this: http://www.erinhart.com/glossary.htm The only "vulgar" definition that I could find ... |
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slipperman
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Joined: January 05 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 217 |
Posted: August 28 2005 at 00:09 |
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not at all, it's a completely acceptable word. It's origin is "the scoriaceous lava from a volcano" (from Webster's). So even if it is used in a slang-y fashion, as I did above, it can't possibly be considered grossly vulgar. But whatever, not important, let's get back to the subject at hand...
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...it is real...it is Rael...
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cobb
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Joined: July 10 2005 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1149 |
Posted: August 28 2005 at 00:00 |
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Yours apparently - it is an american site |
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slipperman
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Joined: January 05 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 217 |
Posted: August 27 2005 at 23:52 |
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UH...S-L-A-G is vulgar??? In which language?
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...it is real...it is Rael...
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slipperman
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Joined: January 05 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 217 |
Posted: August 27 2005 at 23:49 |
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[/QUOTE] Of course ... I made a suggestion a while ago: Add a checkbox that allows people to decide whether their review should be published or not. So they could write a few sentences which would only be visible for admins, to help them to determine whether the reviewer listened to the album or not. I didn't get any feedback ... maybe this will be implemented in the new version of the archives. [/QUOTE]
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...it is real...it is Rael...
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WiguJimbo wrote:
I think that is a freaking excellent idea. You can tell which reviewers are either 1) out to sl*g a band quickly, mercilessly and without having actually listened to or owned the album, or 2) downloading a song or two and acting as if they've heard and known the album well enough to review it. Either scenario is lame. I hate to see the integrity of all the other great reviewers dragged down by a few. And I hate to see the quality of this site coming down because of these sorts of reviews. I wonder how feasible it is to implement the above idea...?