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Posted: December 27 2015 at 15:48
[QUOTE=Kati][QUOTE=Kati]
Brlliant musicians all 3, if I had to outweigh my vote it must be Robert Plant from Stairway to Heaven, to The Rain Song and my ultimate favourite Kashmir!
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Posted: December 27 2015 at 15:47
[QUOTE=Kati]
Brlliant musicians all 3, if I had to outweigh my vote it must be Robert Plant from Stairway to Heaven, to The Rain Song and my ultimate favourite Kashmir!
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Posted: December 27 2015 at 15:46
Brlliant musicians all 3, if I had to outweigh my vote it must be Robert Plant from Stairway to Heaven, to The Rain Song and my ultimate favourite Kashmir!
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Posted: December 25 2015 at 05:57
Gillan was fiery, guns blazing, wailing hard rock banshee in Mark II times. Great ability and very dynamic, perfect for Purple fast approach. But Plant's voice was richer, he had more charisma, created better atmosphere and was also very accomplished. So I take Robert Plant here.
Daltrey was good, but not on that level if you ask me.
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Posted: December 24 2015 at 23:55
Gillan. Probably prefer Daltrey over Plant even though I don't have any Who albums anymore. Stuck with a couple of Zepp, and a few Purple/Ian Gillan Band albums. I even dig Sabbath's Born Again (though the production is iffy). Gillan all the way here.
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Posted: December 24 2015 at 23:41
dr wu23 wrote:
Don't really get all the love for Gillan.....decent voice but there's nothing 'unique' about it.
Plant and Daltrey are far more entertaining...imho.
Been listening to Kansas lately because of several threads started about them and for my money I like Walsh better than Gillan...they both have that 'clean' sounding voice but Walsh is just more interesting and emotional for me.
Walsh is my favorite prog singer.
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Posted: December 24 2015 at 16:13
I think it's safe to say that Robert Plant was as integral to Zeppelin's sound as Daltrey was to The Who. They would be irreplaceable. It would be like The Who playing with another drummer after Keith Moon died....
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Posted: December 24 2015 at 11:16
Don't really get all the love for Gillan.....decent voice but there's nothing 'unique' about it.
Plant and Daltrey are far more entertaining...imho.
Been listening to Kansas lately because of several threads started about them and for my money I like Walsh better than Gillan...they both have that 'clean' sounding voice but Walsh is just more interesting and emotional for me.
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Ability, shared. Versatility, shared. It's like saying what's best? Stairway, See Me Feel Me or Child In Time. Life without these guys' contributions to art is unthinkable. And horrible. And their, er, backing bands are, um, cough, notable as well. Gasp.
Gillan was the one who could do comedy the best. No laughing In Heaven from the star of Jesus Christ Superstar was too irresistible for the likes of me especailly with Born Again thrown into that Maelstrom. Plant could turn the cheeriest tune into the most frightening indictment (Woodstock, San Francisco).
Daltrey with Love Reign O'er Me is towering. However he died the death on Who's Last. Shame but not a suitable epitaph for one of the greatest vocalist in rock
Now I wanna hear Leo Sayer. You Make Me Feel Like Dancing...
It's Plant. But gosh almighty did he have to work for it.
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Posted: December 16 2015 at 13:28
I was fortunate to hear all three live in their respective heydays. Daltrey was the most dynamic frontman, by far, if showmanship is part of the equation.
He and Plant have of course had the most mainstream exposure and more chartbusting material, and must be considered iconic in their own right. Gillan seems to be more a part of an ensemble than the other two, and has lost the least in vocal nimbleness, so gets the nod in longevity. The band most closely associated with him, though, has a worthy history without his participation, unlike the other two. He and Plant are more accomplished songwriters as well.
That leaves the issue of indispensable recordings where the vocalist is key. I cannot imagine Led Zeppelin without Robert Plant a bit more than I can consider The Who without Roger Daltrey, since the former never relinquished the vocal lead. So it goes to Robert.
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Posted: December 15 2015 at 07:44
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
lazland wrote:
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Better voice Gillan
Better singer Daltrey
So my vote goes for Big D
Similar to my thoughts, Ivan. The raw emotion and interpretation of Townsend's genius writing by Daltrey will win every time for me.
You have not, however, mentioned Plant. I find Led Zeppelin a very difficult band. At their best in the studio, utterly fantastic. However, live was a different matter altogether. I saw them at Knebworth before Bonham died, and was extremely disappointed, and I am afraid that the plethora of live material released since then has done nothing to change that view.
That, then, clinches it for me. Live music is always the test, and I have seen all three. Gillan, fantastic voice and passion. Daltrey, simply above any other live singer I have ever seen. Plant, very disappointing.
For that reason, it is Daltrey.
Yes, didn't mention Plant because my mama tells me not to say anything if I don't have something good to say.
Yes, Plant sings well, but he's extremely overacted, he tries to give an image of a sensual vocalist with that forced cadence that really turns me down (I only care about sensual women).
Daltrey has very little technique, he just throws the voice (pure throat), but has an energy that no other vocalist has, he sings with the heart.
I can't imagine any other vocalist singing I'm Free, Baba O'Riley, Won't Get Fooled again, or See Me, Feel Me.
Plus lets face it Roger Daltrey is Tommy and Tommy is Daltrey.
Gillan has one of the most beautiful voices I ever heard, but lacks a bit of soul.
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Posted: December 14 2015 at 11:57
lazland wrote:
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Better voice Gillan
Better singer Daltrey
So my vote goes for Big D
Similar to my thoughts, Ivan. The raw emotion and interpretation of Townsend's genius writing by Daltrey will win every time for me.
You have not, however, mentioned Plant. I find Led Zeppelin a very difficult band. At their best in the studio, utterly fantastic. However, live was a different matter altogether. I saw them at Knebworth before Bonham died, and was extremely disappointed, and I am afraid that the plethora of live material released since then has done nothing to change that view.
That, then, clinches it for me. Live music is always the test, and I have seen all three. Gillan, fantastic voice and passion. Daltrey, simply above any other live singer I have ever seen. Plant, very disappointing.
For that reason, it is Daltrey.
Yes, didn't mention Plant because my mama tells me not to say anything if I don't have something good to say.
Yes, Plant sings well, but he's extremely overacted, he tries to give an image of a sensual vocalist with that forced cadence that really turns me down (I only care about sensual women).
Daltrey has very little technique, he just throws the voice (pure throat), but has an energy that no other vocalist has, he sings with the heart.
I can't imagine any other vocalist singing I'm Free, Baba O'Riley, Won't Get Fooled again, or See Me, Feel Me.
Plus lets face it Roger Daltrey is Tommy and Tommy is Daltrey.
Gillan has one of the most beautiful voices I ever heard, but lacks a bit of soul.
Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - December 14 2015 at 11:59
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Posted: December 13 2015 at 06:05
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TheLionOfPrague wrote:
Page live is one of the worst there is.
Yeah if what you're interested in is perfection. But both Page and Plant knew better and understood the power of emotional content which you don't really get from polished players. You don't think it was an accident they sounded rough, do you? Robert Plant loved ragged guitar, that's why he wanted to work with Page; character, texture, feeling, and authenticity.
No one rocked like Zeppelin, and they never will. In concert they blew away the Hendrix Experience, made Tull look average, and put Sabbath to shame.
Yeah, in fact just yesterday I pulled up the Knebworth concert mentioned by Steve. Not the whole thing but some songs and I thought it was fabulous. Very few rock singers (the male ones, that is) can actually sing with so much melody as Plant. So I'd assume the shoddiness was at least partly if not wholly deliberate. I don't know if any other rock band from the 70s could even dream of doing the things they were capable of on stage. I don't mean this in terms of a technical virtuosity Olympics but that they were so different from what other rock bands were doing in the 70s, so loose and so rich in flavour in a time when rock was gradually shedding those very qualities in preparation of the 80s!
If anything, that was the real problem with LZ. They were too good a live band to be able to fit their expression into a more concise and lucid shape for the studio. On recordings, their songs sound too rambling and drag but it works in the live setting.
On another note, yesterday was the first time I understood exactly how Plant must have influenced Jeff Buckley, who too went in for a loose, raw live act that could explode like a volcano at the right moments. Now if those bum notes give the impression that Jeff couldn't sing, then I must quote Peter Gabriel to say that "you've been taken for a ride"!
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Posted: December 13 2015 at 01:16
tough choice in the end, it's Robert Plant. Not only was he amazing with Led Zep, but I love some of his solo stuff. Gillan was great in the 70s plus the three Ian Gillan band albums were great. Some of his solo stuff in the 80s was pretty average.
I rarely listen to the Who these days, I like them though. I should give them a chance one of these days, At least listen to Who's Next.
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Posted: December 13 2015 at 01:06
TheLionOfPrague wrote:
Page live is one of the worst there is.
Yeah if what you're interested in is perfection. But both Page and Plant knew better and understood the power of emotional content which you don't really get from polished players. You don't think it was an accident they sounded rough, do you? Robert Plant loved ragged guitar, that's why he wanted to work with Page; character, texture, feeling, and authenticity.
No one rocked like Zeppelin, and they never will. In concert they blew away the Hendrix Experience, made Tull look average, and put Sabbath to shame.
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