Roger Daltrey Vs Robert Plant Vs Ian Gillan
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Topic: Roger Daltrey Vs Robert Plant Vs Ian Gillan
Posted By: Svetonio
Subject: Roger Daltrey Vs Robert Plant Vs Ian Gillan
Date Posted: December 07 2015 at 10:45
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Three great English Rock singers poll. Please vote. ...just as a decor...
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Posted By: AZF
Date Posted: December 07 2015 at 10:57
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Ian Gillan! I love the other two singers, but when you look at the history of Ian Gillan and more importantly his showbiz history. Not just a singer of Deep Purple, Black Sabbath (For a bit) and solo "WHAT?" said I, "No party?","NO PARTY?!!" "LET ME OUUUUTT!" You'll see he's the more technical of the three singers listed.
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: December 07 2015 at 11:30
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Robert Plant. -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: sublime220
Date Posted: December 07 2015 at 11:38
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Robert the sprout ------------- There is no dark side in the moon, really... Matter of fact, it's all dark... |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: December 07 2015 at 11:42
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Plant or Gillan. Can't decide. Both are great frontmen. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: December 07 2015 at 13:25
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All are great, but Daltrey is my obvious favourite. ------------- 
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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: December 07 2015 at 13:43
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Much prefer Ian Gillan. ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: December 07 2015 at 14:37
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Roger Daltrey. -------------  One of my best achievements in life was to find this picture :D |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: December 07 2015 at 15:45
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Gillan over the other two. I mean, have you heard any of them lately? ------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: December 07 2015 at 15:54
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Daltrey, although listening him try to sing these days is painful. ------------- Trust me. I know what I'm doing. |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: December 07 2015 at 16:01
Lately? Are you mean these days, when they are already around 70? I thought it was understood that this poll is not about them as the wheelchair-rockers  All of them were undoubtedly great in their heydays, and I voted for Daltrey who was like an archetype of "Rock god" back in the day... |
Rednight wrote:Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: December 07 2015 at 16:20
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Daltrey for me, simply brilliant. Having said that, When A Blind Man Cries is one of rock's most sublime performances. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: AZF
Date Posted: December 07 2015 at 17:17
I misread the poll as Roger Daltrey Vs Robert Palmer Vs Ian Gillan!
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: December 07 2015 at 19:11
| Ian Gillan, Robert Plant, Roger Daltrey, but all very close. |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: December 07 2015 at 21:44
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Plant with Daltrey a close second. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: December 07 2015 at 21:49
| Oh, I don't know. It should be between Robert Plant and Roger Daltrey... I know Led Zeppelin better, and have more songs by them that I really love, than The Who... and Plant is a superb singer as well. Yet as far as singing goes, Roger Daltrey really shines too (well, also Ian Gillan, but I like the other to better). |
Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: December 07 2015 at 22:51
| Roger Daltrey |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: December 08 2015 at 00:33
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Plant wasn't just a great rock vocalist, he is an expert of all things Blue in a way no other English rocker was. Sure Joe Cocker may've been more authentic, but Plant understood Blues history; he is an archivist in black American vocal musics, and uses that mastery in his songs. You don't get that from Daltrey or Gillan. ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: Komandant Shamal
Date Posted: December 08 2015 at 06:01
| i voted for Roger Daltrey due to Tommy movie. |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: December 08 2015 at 06:29
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Final decision - Percy. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: December 08 2015 at 06:39
PLANT ! |
Posted By: Frosted Celt
Date Posted: December 08 2015 at 06:41
| Not allowed to vote in the poll but my still allowed to post my choice and It's is Ian Gillan. |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: December 08 2015 at 06:44
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: December 08 2015 at 06:45
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They're all brilliant but Percy is the man. |
Posted By: addictedtoprog
Date Posted: December 08 2015 at 08:49
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Whenever we talk about greatest vocalists in classic rock,these three names are always going to be mentioned first. All equally brilliant with their own unique style. I prefer Gillan specially for 'Live In Japan' album. |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: December 08 2015 at 10:10
------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: December 08 2015 at 10:17
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Plant or Daltrey...never really cared that much for Gillan. I'll vote Plant today. btw.....there are many great classic rock singers beyond these three....these guys were in huge well known bands which certainly helped their status. We tend not to think about the others who didn't make as much money. But singers like Steve Marriot, Paul Rodgers, Mike Harrison (from Spooky Tooth ) and many others (Palmer mentioned above..) had some great pipes and imho actually had more interesting vocal qualities (at times) but weren't thrust into stardom as much.
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: December 08 2015 at 10:20
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Plant was basically the archetypal hard rock vocalist who paved the way for many others to follow. And what Plant was to hard rock, Gillan was to heavy metal. Plant was the king of personality and Gillan the king of technique (well, at least until Halford, Dickinson and Dio took turns to displace him by far ;) ). Given all of the above, Daltrey would appear to be up against impossible odds in contending with these two. But I vote Daltrey for his sheer sincerity and character, which I feel the other two, for all their flamboyance, generally lack. I don't mean character here in the sense of sounding distinctive (again, something where the other two had no problems whatsoever) but in terms of touching a chord, allowing the listener to get a glimpse of the person behind the voice. When Daltrey sings, "Get on my knees and pray/We don't get fooled again" he sounds like he means it. And although Gillan was the prototype for metal vocals, Daltrey did grit better. Love Reign O'er Me!!!!!
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: December 08 2015 at 10:24
More to the point, they lacked songwriting to back their vocal talent. It is pretty much an axiom of rock music discussion that when somebody says XYZ singer is the best, they really mean they like the songwriting of XYZ's band the most. At least Plant, Daltrey, Gillan were powerhouse singers in their own right. Ozzy's appeal draws entirely from Sabbath's music being tailored to suit his peculiar sound. There are just so many rock/metal singers who are better than him.
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Posted By: TeleStrat
Date Posted: December 08 2015 at 10:35
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Plant is my choice from these three although none are at the top of my list. I agree with the point dr wu23 made. In fact, I'm going to play Spooky Two now because it's been too long since I've heard it. BTW...Phil Lynott from Thin Lizzy is a long time favorite.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: December 08 2015 at 10:48
I don't know Harrison but I'd have to disagree with that for Rodgers and Marriott. |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: December 08 2015 at 10:48
The ones I mentioned all wrote many/most of the songs their bands did....I don't think Daltrey or Gillan wrote much of anything (though the whole band is credited for instance on Machine Head)...but I could be wrong. Plant did write but I wonder how much of the music/chords were from Page or was it a true collaboration...? But as you said they all had great voices anyway....and I have always thought Ozzie had a weird voice and not that good overall and as you pointed out many rock/metal singers are far better. I cked my Spooky Tooth albums and the infamous Gary Wright (of Dream Weaver fame...) wrote most of their cuts though Harrison is given credit on some.  ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: December 08 2015 at 11:31
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Roger Daltrey...Too many brilliant performances, Quadrophenia is a masterpiece and Tommy is outstanding. Love, Reign o'er Me, Doctor Jimmy, Who Are You, Baba.....I can go on. He's the Man -------------   
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: December 08 2015 at 11:34
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^ I could have easily picked Daltrey, but as rogerthat said it often comes down to which band one likes better. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: December 08 2015 at 12:58
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I have always preferred Gillan over the other two, and Daltry over Plant. Special mention today goes out to the late David Byron, since I have been listening to the Heep recently. ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: December 08 2015 at 18:20
I didn't mean their specific songwriting skills but just the quality of songs they got to sing (whether written by them or bandmates) vis a vis LZ/DP/Who. Individual tastes may differ but on a broad level those three bands are incomparable with Spooky Tooth or Bad Company and had some of the greatest songwriters (or composers, whichever term one may prefer) in classic rock. And it's usually the guys singing the greatest songs who also get rated the greatest. I have rarely seen Joe Lynn Turner's name crop up and he was an excellent singer.
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Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: December 08 2015 at 19:06
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Robert Plant, but all the singers are great. ------------- Progrockdude |
Posted By: TheLionOfPrague
Date Posted: December 08 2015 at 20:25
Freddie Mercury may have a say on that  . ------------- I shook my head and smiled a whisper knowing all about the place |
Posted By: TheLionOfPrague
Date Posted: December 08 2015 at 20:26
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Ian Gillan. Absolutely amazing. ------------- I shook my head and smiled a whisper knowing all about the place |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: December 08 2015 at 20:32
Aye. His work on "Jesus Christ, Superstar" was spine-tingling, and he had the best pipes of them all.
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: December 08 2015 at 21:52
Very good point. This sounds like a very good explanation of what I like about Plant indeed. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: December 08 2015 at 21:55
Just what I thought too. Though as a progger, I would love to include Jon Anderson, Peter Hamill, Francesco Di Giacommo, Annie Haslam... but of course, they won't be so easily known. |
Posted By: TheLionOfPrague
Date Posted: December 08 2015 at 23:47
I think Jon is pretty popular. And of course, Peter Gabriel too. Those are the only prog singers that are well known (since Pink Floyd never had a "singer"). Maybe Greg Lake could be added. ------------- I shook my head and smiled a whisper knowing all about the place |
. Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: December 09 2015 at 05:02
Exactly. Aside of the fact that he was played in many movies after Tommy, Roger Daltrey actually was like an actor who is starring (sings) those crazy characters from Townshend's phantasy.
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Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: December 09 2015 at 05:48
| A really tricky poll. Just too tough to call. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: December 09 2015 at 21:54
Yeah, Greg Lake is wonderful too... even if I haven't really heard him top his own performance on Epitaph... of course, not many people have ever topped that performance. |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: December 11 2015 at 11:59
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Plant ------------- |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 11 2015 at 12:12
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Better voice Gillan Better singer Daltrey So my vote goes for Big D ------------- 
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: December 11 2015 at 14:24
Similar to my thoughts, Ivan. The raw emotion and interpretation of Townsend's genius writing by Daltrey will win every time for me. You have not, however, mentioned Plant. I find Led Zeppelin a very difficult band. At their best in the studio, utterly fantastic. However, live was a different matter altogether. I saw them at Knebworth before Bonham died, and was extremely disappointed, and I am afraid that the plethora of live material released since then has done nothing to change that view. That, then, clinches it for me. Live music is always the test, and I have seen all three. Gillan, fantastic voice and passion. Daltrey, simply above any other live singer I have ever seen. Plant, very disappointing. For that reason, it is Daltrey. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 11 2015 at 16:31
yeah... you both get thumbs ups  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Frosted Celt
Date Posted: December 12 2015 at 16:40
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Gillans in the lead ??? Awesome ! ------------- 
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Posted By: TheLionOfPrague
Date Posted: December 12 2015 at 21:17
Page live is one of the worst there is. ------------- I shook my head and smiled a whisper knowing all about the place |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: December 13 2015 at 01:06
Yeah if what you're interested in is perfection. But both Page and Plant knew better and understood the power of emotional content which you don't really get from polished players. You don't think it was an accident they sounded rough, do you? Robert Plant loved ragged guitar, that's why he wanted to work with Page; character, texture, feeling, and authenticity. No one rocked like Zeppelin, and they never will. In concert they blew away the Hendrix Experience, made Tull look average, and put Sabbath to shame. ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 13 2015 at 01:16
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tough choice in the end, it's Robert Plant. Not only was he amazing with Led Zep, but I love some of his solo stuff. Gillan was great in the 70s plus the three Ian Gillan band albums were great. Some of his solo stuff in the 80s was pretty average. I rarely listen to the Who these days, I like them though. I should give them a chance one of these days, At least listen to Who's Next. |
Posted By: TeleStrat
Date Posted: December 13 2015 at 05:47
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Based on the earlier works of the three I went with Plant. Considering the number of votes this is one of the closest polls I've seen.
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: December 13 2015 at 06:05
Yeah, in fact just yesterday I pulled up the Knebworth concert mentioned by Steve. Not the whole thing but some songs and I thought it was fabulous. Very few rock singers (the male ones, that is) can actually sing with so much melody as Plant. So I'd assume the shoddiness was at least partly if not wholly deliberate. I don't know if any other rock band from the 70s could even dream of doing the things they were capable of on stage. I don't mean this in terms of a technical virtuosity Olympics but that they were so different from what other rock bands were doing in the 70s, so loose and so rich in flavour in a time when rock was gradually shedding those very qualities in preparation of the 80s! If anything, that was the real problem with LZ. They were too good a live band to be able to fit their expression into a more concise and lucid shape for the studio. On recordings, their songs sound too rambling and drag but it works in the live setting. On another note, yesterday was the first time I understood exactly how Plant must have influenced Jeff Buckley, who too went in for a loose, raw live act that could explode like a volcano at the right moments. Now if those bum notes give the impression that Jeff couldn't sing, then I must quote Peter Gabriel to say that "you've been taken for a ride"!
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: December 13 2015 at 23:33
^   ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: Pastmaster
Date Posted: December 14 2015 at 00:46
| I love them all, but I'll have to go with Ian Gillan. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 14 2015 at 11:57
Yes, didn't mention Plant because my mama tells me not to say anything if I don't have something good to say. Yes, Plant sings well, but he's extremely overacted, he tries to give an image of a sensual vocalist with that forced cadence that really turns me down (I only care about sensual women). Daltrey has very little technique, he just throws the voice (pure throat), but has an energy that no other vocalist has, he sings with the heart. I can't imagine any other vocalist singing I'm Free, Baba O'Riley, Won't Get Fooled again, or See Me, Feel Me. Plus lets face it Roger Daltrey is Tommy and Tommy is Daltrey. Gillan has one of the most beautiful voices I ever heard, but lacks a bit of soul.
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: December 15 2015 at 07:44
I forgot the topic, don't care! Ivan my wonderful, <3 I am so happy to see you here again mhwoaaahhxxxxxx btw I second what Ivan said
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 15 2015 at 14:05
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Wow Kati, you make me blush Always great to see you. Iván -------------
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Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: December 16 2015 at 13:28
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I was fortunate to hear all three live in their respective heydays. Daltrey was the most dynamic frontman, by far, if showmanship is part of the equation. He and Plant have of course had the most mainstream exposure and more chartbusting material, and must be considered iconic in their own right. Gillan seems to be more a part of an ensemble than the other two, and has lost the least in vocal nimbleness, so gets the nod in longevity. The band most closely associated with him, though, has a worthy history without his participation, unlike the other two. He and Plant are more accomplished songwriters as well. That leaves the issue of indispensable recordings where the vocalist is key. I cannot imagine Led Zeppelin without Robert Plant a bit more than I can consider The Who without Roger Daltrey, since the former never relinquished the vocal lead. So it goes to Robert.
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Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: December 24 2015 at 02:24
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Ability, shared. Versatility, shared. It's like saying what's best? Stairway, See Me Feel Me or Child In Time. Life without these guys' contributions to art is unthinkable. And horrible. And their, er, backing bands are, um, cough, notable as well. Gasp. Gillan was the one who could do comedy the best. No laughing In Heaven from the star of Jesus Christ Superstar was too irresistible for the likes of me especailly with Born Again thrown into that Maelstrom. Plant could turn the cheeriest tune into the most frightening indictment (Woodstock, San Francisco). Daltrey with Love Reign O'er Me is towering. However he died the death on Who's Last. Shame but not a suitable epitaph for one of the greatest vocalist in rock Now I wanna hear Leo Sayer. You Make Me Feel Like Dancing... It's Plant. But gosh almighty did he have to work for it. |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: December 24 2015 at 11:16
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Don't really get all the love for Gillan.....decent voice but there's nothing 'unique' about it. Plant and Daltrey are far more entertaining...imho. Been listening to Kansas lately because of several threads started about them and for my money I like Walsh better than Gillan...they both have that 'clean' sounding voice but Walsh is just more interesting and emotional for me. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: December 24 2015 at 16:13
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I think it's safe to say that Robert Plant was as integral to Zeppelin's sound as Daltrey was to The Who. They would be irreplaceable. It would be like The Who playing with another drummer after Keith Moon died.... No wait.... ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: TheLionOfPrague
Date Posted: December 24 2015 at 23:41
Walsh is my favorite prog singer. ------------- I shook my head and smiled a whisper knowing all about the place |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: December 24 2015 at 23:55
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Gillan. Probably prefer Daltrey over Plant even though I don't have any Who albums anymore. Stuck with a couple of Zepp, and a few Purple/Ian Gillan Band albums. I even dig Sabbath's Born Again (though the production is iffy). Gillan all the way here. |
Posted By: thief
Date Posted: December 25 2015 at 05:57
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Gillan was fiery, guns blazing, wailing hard rock banshee in Mark II times. Great ability and very dynamic, perfect for Purple fast approach. But Plant's voice was richer, he had more charisma, created better atmosphere and was also very accomplished. So I take Robert Plant here. Daltrey was good, but not on that level if you ask me. Plant > Gillan >>> Daltrey (still good)
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: December 27 2015 at 15:46
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Brlliant musicians all 3, if I had to outweigh my vote it must be Robert Plant from Stairway to Heaven, to The Rain Song and my ultimate favourite Kashmir! Robert Plant ticked all boxes  |
Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: December 27 2015 at 15:47
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[QUOTE=Kati]
Brlliant musicians all 3, if I had to outweigh my vote it must be Robert Plant from Stairway to Heaven, to The Rain Song and my ultimate favourite Kashmir! Robert Plant ticked all boxes
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: December 27 2015 at 15:48
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[QUOTE=Kati][QUOTE=Kati]
Brlliant musicians all 3, if I had to outweigh my vote it must be Robert Plant from Stairway to Heaven, to The Rain Song and my ultimate favourite Kashmir! Robert Plant ticked all boxes
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Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: December 28 2015 at 17:35
| Plant |