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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Dark Elf Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2019 at 16:35

THE CREATION OF PROG-ARCHIVES (With Apologies to The Mothers of Invention)

Once upon a time

Way back a long time ago,

When the universe consisted of nothing more elaborate than Mark Volman,

Trying to convince each and every member

Of this extremely hip audience here tonight,

That he was nothing more, nothing less

Than a fat maroon sofa suspended in the midst of a great emptiness,

A light shined down from heaven.

And there he was ladies and gentleman, the good Lord,

And he took a look at the sofa,

And he said to himself

"Quite an attractive sofa, this sofa could be commercial…"

(with a few margaritas and the right company company)…

However, I digress…

"What this sofa needs" said the big 'G',

"is a bit of flooring underneath of it."

And so, in order to make this construction project possible,

He summoned the assistance of the Celestial Corp of Engineers,

And, by means of a cute little song in the German language

(which is the way He talks whenever it's heavy business),

The good Lord went something like this:


"Gib zu mir etwas fussbodenbelag unter diesen fetten fliessenden sofa."

Everybody!

"Gib zu mir etwas fussbodenbelag unter diesen fetten fliessenden sofa."

And, of course, ladies and gentlemen that means:

"Give unto me a bit of flooring under this fat floating sofa."

And sure enough, boards of oak appeared throughout the emptiness,

As far as vision permits,

Stretching all the way from Belfast to Bogner Regis.

And the lord put aside his huge cigar,

And proceeded to deliver unto the charming maroonish sofa

The bulk of his message,

With the assistance of a small electric clarinet...

And thus, lost beneath the cushions of said fat, floating, maroonish sofa

Was Prog-Archives formed,

Like a bad penny --

Or a wad of salivated chewing gum one finds

While cleaning up after last Saturday’s poker party.
...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Finnforest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2019 at 16:30
Rony was a real gentleman in my encounters with him. We chatted a few times around the time his prog book was released.

I started lurking around in 2007 and soon after got a welcoming PM from a guy named SinkadotenTree, a named derived from his three favorite bands. That person is now Mellotron Storm. Times flies.
...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Catcher10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2019 at 16:27
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

The earliest snapshot according to waybackmachine is from July, 2002:

https://web.archive.org/web/20020726140505/http://www.progarchives.com/

I seem to remember first visiting this site back in 2003 or 2004.

I do remember that old PA web banner, I know I was a lurker before joining. I suspect is was around 2005-6 when I started looking around.

When did that banner change?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2019 at 16:18
^ The bio is helpful:

Originally posted by M@x M@x wrote:

I started to work on the progarchives.com project in summer 2002 as a webmaster, ProgLucky and I became associates 3 months later. At that time, we were not as popular as we are now, we were then averaging 200 visitors per day. Using my experience as a web analyst, we started to revamp the first version of the website and it became what it is today : a success.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2019 at 16:16
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

It certainly predates Max, and I like AFlowerKingCrimson remember this place before the forums. In the snapshot I posted before from July 26, 2002 See: https://web.archive.org/web/20020726140505/http://www.progarchives.com/

It says on the ProgArchives home page:

Quote ProgArchives will be officially
launched by September 1st, 2002.
Our Database is currently
under populating process.


I'm thinking I might well have visited this site back even in 2002, since I was a member of a forum that went under around that time, and I do remember posting about this site there, but it might have been sometime in 2003.

There were a few prog sites back then that didn't last that long. Aside from the ones I already mentioned there was prog.net which I wrote some reviews on. That one went belly up in 2001. There was also this one called prog freaks which had frogs as their mascot. It was kind of weird to see a prog site with all these pictures of little green frogs on it. I remember they had their own little prog rock hall of fame or something like that and a list with older and newer albums. That site disappeared around 2006 maybe. Not sure. Maybe a bit earlier. Anyway, by then this site was off the ground and would proabably eat up a lot of the competittion. Proggnosis however is still around so other than progressive ears that is one of the longer lived ones. Sadly, gepr is no longer online but that hasn't been updated in a long time anyway. DPRP is still around though. It's good there are still some other prog sites out there. Most of the newer ones these days seem to be in the form of wordpress blogs though. However, progarchives has proved itself to be the biggest and best. 


Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - November 16 2019 at 16:19
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2019 at 16:12
Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

IIRC, before the forum proper there was a 'guestbook' feature to the main site where people could write messages. Then that became the forum which did start in 2004. Obviously the main site was around longer (as Logan mentioned above). 

I mentioned it too and if you look at the bio for M@X he said the same thing.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2019 at 16:12
I like AFlowerKingCrimson remember this place before the forums. In the snapshot I posted before from July 26, 2002 See: https://web.archive.org/web/20020726140505/http://www.progarchives.com/

It says on the ProgArchives home page:

Quote ProgArchives will be officially
launched by September 1st, 2002.
Our Database is currently
under populating process.


I'm thinking I might well have visited this site back even in 2002, since I was a member of a forum that went under around that time, and I do remember posting about this site there, but it might have been sometime in 2003.

Edited by Logan - November 16 2019 at 16:16
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Man With Hat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2019 at 16:08
IIRC, before the forum proper there was a 'guestbook' feature to the main site where people could write messages. Then that became the forum which did start in 2004. Obviously the main site was around longer (as Logan mentioned above). 
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Originally posted by Neu!mann Neu!mann wrote:

Are we sure about that 2005 starting date? I joined on January 21 of that year, and it seemed like the site had been up and running for some time already...
 

29 January 2004, to pinpoint the starting date. At least that's the day when forum member #1, M@X, signed up. There must have been some proto-PA before that day, I've seen one or two pre-2004 reviews passing along.
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The mention of the old Psychedelicatessen site just gave me an idea for a new thread. Smile
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I just checked June 2004, there was a best bassist poll.
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I've been a visitor to this site since September 2010. It's only when I joined PA nine years later that I realised what I'd been missing out on. I'd never even looked at the forums until I became a member here. Smile
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This is a very interesting thread, I’m just a noob at this point. Crazy to think when I was just 4 or 5 years old people were still here writing reviews like they still do today, and that many of them are still frequent visitors.

Edited by dougmcauliffe - November 16 2019 at 14:22
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2019 at 14:09
Wow, I didn't know the founder died. That's sad. Anyway, I remember this site as early as 2003 but there weren't any members yet. You could just look at the bands and albums listed as prog. At that time it was related to two other sites: prog toes and prog lands. Only progarchives has stood the test of time though.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

I had forgotten how long ago I joined.  Holy cow I've been here 13 years.  I did a brief stint on the crossover team about 10 years ago.  BTW if you like jazz there is a companion site jazzmusicarchives...

There's a site called metalmusicarchives also but no classicalarchives, classicrockarchives or psychedelicarchives. At least not yet.
There was a site called Psychedelicatessen that I used to visit, but it appears to have disappeared now. Confused
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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

I had forgotten how long ago I joined.  Holy cow I've been here 13 years.  I did a brief stint on the crossover team about 10 years ago.  BTW if you like jazz there is a companion site jazzmusicarchives...

There's a site called metalmusicarchives also but no classicalarchives, classicrockarchives or psychedelicarchives. At least not yet.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2019 at 13:54
The earliest snapshot according to waybackmachine is from July, 2002:

https://web.archive.org/web/20020726140505/http://www.progarchives.com/

I seem to remember first visiting this site back in 2003 or 2004.

Edited by Logan - November 16 2019 at 13:55
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Originally posted by Neu!mann Neu!mann wrote:

Are we sure about that 2005 starting date? I joined on January 21 of that year, and it seemed like the site had been up and running for some time already...


2004, not 2005. I wrote that I joined in 2005 - at the end of July, to be precise (as my profile says). Indeed, when I joined, the site was already thriving. Sorry about the typo! I meant to write 2004, but only now did I realize that I had got the date wrongEmbarrassed.


Edited by Raff - November 16 2019 at 13:01
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Neu!mann Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2019 at 12:52
Are we sure about that 2005 starting date? I joined on January 21 of that year, and it seemed like the site had been up and running for some time already...
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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

I joined in 2006 as well, but I've taken about two years to start writing (very poor) reviews. I remember a lot of former members who are almost missed since years, I wonder where they are now. 
I don't think your reviews are "very poor", especially if English isn't your first language. They're better than my reviews anyway. Smile
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