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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2010 at 06:34
Oh Milan ... this illegal video ...

NO WAY !!! LOL


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2010 at 04:49
Well, later today, I'm gonna make some kind of update on our list. Just wait.
There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2010 at 01:39
Originally posted by Marty McFly Marty McFly wrote:

Just keep on mind that when someone suggests something, teams are extremely busy, there are dozens of bands they have to evaluate and dozens more are being suggested every week.  

Try to wait few weeks before bumping. Bumping, mentioning them again.


Anyway, I'm quite glad for your propositions. They are giving me hints what is and what is not Prog - from the music I don't know / don't know so well.

If you want, just suggest them to me and wait some time, I will eventually handle them sooner or later.

Ok, I´ll stop bumping!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2010 at 14:09

Just keep on mind that when someone suggests something, teams are extremely busy, there are dozens of bands they have to evaluate and dozens more are being suggested every week.  

Try to wait few weeks before bumping. Bumping, mentioning them again.


Anyway, I'm quite glad for your propositions. They are giving me hints what is and what is not Prog - from the music I don't know / don't know so well.

If you want, just suggest them to me and wait some time, I will eventually handle them sooner or later.



Edited by Marty McFly - July 05 2010 at 19:43
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2010 at 12:12
Originally posted by Marty McFly Marty McFly wrote:

And Milan ? The best thing you (and I) can do is to have patience, not to push these suggestions by pressure.
What pressure? That´s strong word enough.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2010 at 12:08
Originally posted by snobb snobb wrote:

Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:




I recommend you OTK and I hope you´ll like it.



I think we need in specialist opinion from that genre there :)
So, let suggest this one to any specialist who you know. I´m only newbie...Cry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2010 at 11:23
Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:




I recommend you OTK and I hope you´ll like it.



I think we need in specialist opinion from that genre there :)

Edited by snobb - July 05 2010 at 11:24
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2010 at 11:04
And Milan ? The best thing you (and I) can do is to have patience, not to push these suggestions by pressure.
There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2010 at 04:33
Hi Slava,
if I´d  tell the truth, I didn´t believe Tata Bojs to add here. But that´s a pity, their music is certainly interesting, especially their "Nanoalbum". They are, unfortunately, not accepted neither by rockers, nor by pop radios. Their roots are in Punk rock. Nowadays, their style is something like Prog-Indie-Dance (and this isn´t accepted in PA, regrettably).
 
I recommend you OTK and I hope you´ll like it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2010 at 04:22
Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

Hi all,
I´m not quite streetwise in Heavy Metal, but I want to suggest an interesting band from Moravia, land of Czech Republic, named Silent Stream Of Godless Elegy. This is very unique mix of Metal, Folk and (sometimes) Classical music, sung in English or Czech.

 





Suggestion for Prog Metal.

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Great band's site and many of samples presented there. Sound nice, mix of symphonic metal and some folk elements, very melodic, with classic influences. Something similar to Nightwish, but with more original Eastern European flavours.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2010 at 04:07
Briefly listened to Tata Bojs myspace samples, generally indie-pop, influenced by post new-wave. Don't know from what albums these songs come, but more or less all of them are somewhere on indie-pop territory.


OTK samples sound more as Eclectic for me, didn't hear much of avant, at least on presented samples.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2010 at 02:43
Marty,
"Marx Engels Beatles" is the most Prog Vltava album, it´s true. It´s their masterpiece, most compact  and hardest album ever. On the previous album "Šťastnej jako trám" are included more Swing and Jazz than Rock. And contemporary Vltava (without record, for the present) brings even more Rock music, without saxes for this once.
 
OTK - surely, Tata Bojs - maybe. I shouldn´t curse a  Tata Bojs´ chance for this time. Let the others express their opinion. I´m curious.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 04 2010 at 17:18

^ Milan, your suggestions are always a pleasure to read. The ones I sometimes know, but never thought about them in Prog way.

I don't know OTK, but Tata Bojs could work. "Nanoalbum" is really a gem, even it may be tough challenge to get them here.


What Vltava album do you think is the most Prog ? I was thinking about ///Marx Engels Beatles///, or their very first. Eclectic or Crossover. Unfortunately not Jazz.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 04 2010 at 04:38
Thinking of Czech Prog Rock, I have remembered another interesting artists I´ve seen alive, OTK. This obscure band plays about 21 years their hardshell music, somewhere between RIO/Avant and Eclectic Prog.
 
So, and their fellows, more famous and festooned with many musical prizes in Czech Republic, Tata Bojs, are hard to sort here. I mean Crossover Prog. Especially their 6th, conceptual, piece  "Nanoalbum" predestinates them to presence on Progarchives.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 04 2010 at 03:03

^ Already on my "to-do" list. Just leave it to me and it'll be OK. Thanks for suggestion though, seems like we're two who have opinion that they are Prog Metal.

Prog Metal will-suggest

Silent Stream of Godless Elegy
Symphonity
Stíny plamenů (from Pilsen)

with Master's Hammer
& Oblomov being evaluated (and it seems like success)


of course + Asmodeus & Atari Terror.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 04 2010 at 01:59
Hi all,
I´m not quite streetwise in Heavy Metal, but I want to suggest an interesting band from Moravia, land of Czech Republic, named Silent Stream Of Godless Elegy. This is very unique mix of Metal, Folk and (sometimes) Classical music, sung in English or Czech.
 
Suggestion for Prog Metal.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2010 at 14:40
Originally posted by Gandalfino Gandalfino wrote:

Hi, Marty (and all Eastern Prog fans),
Every albums of Prúdy are included in Collegium Musicum section. I think it´s not alright and this chapter should be divided because there are two another bands.  
Jazz Celula - I absolutely don´t know why this band isn´t  here yet. This is without doubt masterpiece of JR/F!
Vltava - entirely unclassifiable band in this "strict JR/F criteria". Rock music with a touch of vaudeville, jazz, swing, some modern elements, maybe pop, using dada or surrealistic lyrics, sung in Czech with funny falsetto... I´m curious what would  unknowing reviewers say to their music.

1)From what I saw, only first album (COLLEGIUM MUSICUM discography) is here. I suppose that Prudy can make a case here and succeed. Give it a time please.

2)Jazz Celula - I was listening their album Oheň až požár and what can I say - pure JR/F.

3)Vltava - I know them very well. I think that JR/F isn't good choice for them, they're not hardcore Jazz like Jazz Celula. Their place would be maybe in Eclectic, or Crossover.

Jonáši, na wiki Vltavy se píše "Její hudba mnohdy balancovala mezi popem a kýčem, typické také byly její surrealistické texty" a pop prvky mnohdy znamenají Crossover: Surrealistické texty jsou fajn - pro nás dva, ale nejenom, že jim většina nebude rozumět, ale hlavně se na PA na texty ohled skoro nebere. 

Jen říkám, jak to je


Keishiro, that's fine. Most of my suggestions will be atypical from now on. Aren't all big names here already ? Then it's time to look for these obscure (unknown) or obscure atypical bands like the ones from Czech Republic.

Happy hunting :-)


Quote I also updated list on first page:

Futurum suggested for Neo-Prog
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Dan Bárta suggested to Jazz  Forum
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Jablkoň suggested for Avant  Forum
Psí vojáci suggested for Avant  Forum
MCH Band suggested for Avant
Deep Sweden suggested for Avant
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Monika Načeva suggested for more genres  Forum
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Ufajr suggested for Post-Rock 
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C suggested for Post-Rock  Forum
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Boo suggested for Crossover
Vladimír Mišík & ETC suggested for Crossover
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Klar suggested for Psychedelic
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Michal Pavlíček suggested for Eclectic
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Atari Terror suggested for Prog Metal
Asmodeus suggested for Prog Metal
Master's Hammer suggested for Prog Metal
Oblomov suggested for Prog Metal




Edited by Marty McFly - July 03 2010 at 16:22
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2010 at 00:57
Originally posted by Marty McFly Marty McFly wrote:

... Anyway Keishiro, what about to use similar map for Asian countries ? You can ask for help of people, who knows more about certain countries and would be willing to talk/suggest bands.
Good idea. Put it in line. Wink

And as to Klar, atypical for West but a good psych-flavoured outfit. Thumbs up from me. Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2010 at 13:05
Hi, Marty (and all Eastern Prog fans),
Every albums of Prúdy are included in Collegium Musicum section. I think it´s not alright and this chapter should be divided because there are two another bands.  
Jazz Celula - I absolutely don´t know why this band isn´t  here yet. This is without doubt masterpiece of JR/F!
Vltava - entirely unclassifiable band in this "strict JR/F criteria". Rock music with a touch of vaudeville, jazz, swing, some modern elements, maybe pop, using dada or surrealistic lyrics, sung in Czech with funny falsetto... I´m curious what would  unknowing reviewers say to their music.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2010 at 12:59
So I'm suggesting:

for Crossover
Boo
Vladimír Mišík & ETC

for Psychedelic
Klar
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