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Joined: September 20 2010
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Posted: September 26 2013 at 00:05
I mentioned John Entwistle (rip) as the 'musicians' musician' who was invented "metal" sound bass in 60's. Yeah, as grand grand father, not the father.
The real fathers of Progressive Metal are not Black Sabbath, nor Iron Maiden. I can easily say that I grow up at Iron Maiden's shows. Five times I saw Iron Maiden live in my hometown of Belgrade: 1981 at Belrade's Hippodrome when Iron Maiden was the opening act for ex-Yugoslavian band Bijelo Dugme, then 1984, 1986, 2007 and 2009; lol, here we call them a "serbian band" - that much people love them here. The main reason for that is the fact that they're not Progressive Metal band, although their Somewhere in the Time the album(1986) is conceptual and with those synths guitars & bass on it. Actually, Heavy Metal, so Iron Maiden as Heavy Metal Gods as well and also one of the greatest cock-rock bands in the history of popular music, is quite opposite music genre from Progressive Rock. That's why the hardcore Heavy Metal fans don't like Progressive Metal. I saw that very clear at Tool's concert in Belgrade 2009, and I recall back then in a nearby bar that just after Tool's gig that all the heavy metal kids with shiny Iron Maiden badges at their jackets were commenting on the Tool's gig "this is too avantgarde, this is not metal".
The real fathers of Progressive Metal, as an autonomous genre under umbrella of Progressive Rock as well, are DREAM THEATER.
p.s. As consolation to those Iron Maiden's hardcore fans who try to put the band into progresive music genre where band as Iron Maiden weren't belong:
^ paterfamilias...the head of the house...the one in charge....or the shovinistic approach of ' I wear the dam pants in the family.' that's DT for me right now. They are fathers and so many other bands want to be under their roof cause they are a staple in Prog metal for last 10 years by creating some pretty wonderful and modern sounding Prog/metal.
After hearing the new DT album I'm pretty confident that DT have a lot of longevity in them for many more years to come.
I'd say DT have been the Fathers of Prog metal since the middle 90's.
Pretty prolific band. I'm really impressed by how they regrouped so well after losing one of the best virtuoso drummers on this planet.
Ok Dream Theater...I'm pulling a Wayne Campell/Garth Algar.
Joined: December 23 2009
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Posted: September 21 2013 at 13:15
timothy leary wrote:
Although Ozzy and friends were playing heavy metal in the late 1960's/early 1970s, they didn't use that expression to describe it - for that we need to cross to the USA. The term 'heavy metal' first appears in print in William Burroughs' 1962 novel The Soft Machine. His character Uranian Willy is described as "the Heavy Metal Kid". Burroughs later re-used the term in his 1964 novel Nova Express:
"With their diseases and orgasm drugs and their sexless parasite life forms - Heavy Metal People of Uranus wrapped in cool blue mist of vaporized bank notes - And the Insect People of Minraud with metal music."
Although Ozzy and friends were playing heavy metal in the late 1960's/early 1970s, they didn't use that expression to describe it - for that we need to cross to the USA. The term 'heavy metal' first appears in print in William Burroughs' 1962 novel The Soft Machine. His character Uranian Willy is described as "the Heavy Metal Kid". Burroughs later re-used the term in his 1964 novel Nova Express:
"With their diseases and orgasm drugs and their sexless parasite life forms - Heavy Metal People of Uranus wrapped in cool blue mist of vaporized bank notes - And the Insect People of Minraud with metal music."
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Posted: September 21 2013 at 04:58
Regardless all the discussions, the very first time I've heard of "Prog Metal" it was about Dream Theater. When I have heard them the first time I thought to a metal version of Marillion, but I don't remember which album it was.
I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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