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Icarium ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: March 21 2008 Location: Tigerstaden Status: Offline Points: 34083 |
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taken from wikipedia
Soundgarden also used unorthodox time signatures; while such songs as "Jesus Christ Pose", "4th Of July", and "Blow Up The Outside World" are in typical 4/4 time, "Outshined" is in 7/4, "My Wave" is in 5/4 and 4/4, "He Didn't" is in 5/4 and 6/4, "Black Hole Sun" is in 4/4 and 9/8, "The Day I Tried To Live" switches between 15/8 and 4/4, "Fell On Black Days" and "Somewhere" are in 6/4, "Never The Machine Forever" and "Black Rain" are in 9/8, "Beyond The Wheel", "Get On The Snake" and "New Damage" are in 9/4, "Face Pollution" uses 9/8 and 6/4, "Rusty Cage" is in 4/4 and 19/8, "Ugly Truth" is in 4/4 and 6/8, "Limo Wreck" alternates between 12/8, 15/8, 9/8, and 6/8, "Half" is in 5/8 with a measure of 11/16 before a 4/4 section, and "Spoonman" alternates between 7/4 choruses and 4/4 verses with a section in 6/4. Thayil has said that Soundgarden usually did not consider the time signature of a song until after the band had written it, and said that the use of odd meters was "a total accident."[102] |
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awaken77 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: December 25 2008 Status: Offline Points: 374 |
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awaken77 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: December 25 2008 Status: Offline Points: 374 |
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Dream Theater is very much into this thing - almost any album have examples of odd time signatures
also Planet X has more exotic examples |
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irrelevant ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 07 2010 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 13382 |
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Tengent ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 17 2009 Location: Evansville, IN Status: Offline Points: 119 |
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A piece solely in 7/8 isn't unlike a piece solely in 4/4. |
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Proletariat ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 30 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1882 |
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NAH FOO IHMZ IZ PLAYN WIT UH FAZTER TEMPO FTW!!!!
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who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob
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Mushroom Sword ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 28 2010 Status: Offline Points: 426 |
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7/4 iz fur noobz
7/8 is where it's at baby! |
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JeanFrame ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 01 2010 Location: London, England Status: Offline Points: 195 |
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Nothing wrong at all with odd time signatures, but the challenge is to make them make sense in terms of the composition. If they're put in just to be clever or complicated, then it's completely naff and has no credibility. If anything, odd time bars make it double difficult to get the balance of the song right, but then again, when it works, it works really well. It requires sensitivity as well as sense. Trouble is, too many prog bands don't have either.
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daslaf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 03 2009 Location: Chile Status: Offline Points: 290 |
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I was going to mention part 2 of Long Piece No. 3
I really love odd time signatures but I have to say that I don't like when the thing doesn't flow... that's why I love Egg
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But now my branches suffer
And my leaves don't bear the glow They did so long ago |
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Tengent ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 17 2009 Location: Evansville, IN Status: Offline Points: 119 |
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Opening riff is 9, 10, 11, 15, 7, 9, 7, 13, 6..
And that.. I don't even know. But gosh it's awesome. |
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The Quiet One ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: January 16 2008 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 15745 |
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"At this very moment
We have drummer a playing in 7/8,
Drummer b playing in 3/4, The bass playing in 3/4, The organ playing in 5/8, The tambourine playing in 3/4, And the alto-sax blowing his notes(nose?)." |
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Ruby900 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 03 2009 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 739 |
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"I always say that it’s about breaking the rules. But the secret of breaking rules in a way that works is understanding what the rules are in the first place". Rick Wakeman
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AbrahamSapien ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: December 27 2009 Location: Slovenia Status: Offline Points: 181 |
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First thing that comes to mind in Easy Money from KC, first two verses in 7/8. Might be an over-used time signature, but KC, especially Brufford open another dimension in rhythm. If I heard correctly Bill plays 4/4 over 7/8 or sth. ...
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Icarium ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: March 21 2008 Location: Tigerstaden Status: Offline Points: 34083 |
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Gentle Giant - Way of Life, Proclamation,
Genesis - the colony of Slipperman, the Supernatural Aneasthetist
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Ruby900 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 03 2009 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 739 |
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Good God, really??? No wonder I could never quite play along with it..... ![]() |
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Ruby900 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 03 2009 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 739 |
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I could not agree more!!! |
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Ruby900 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 03 2009 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 739 |
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Good choices here! |
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Casimir ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2010 Location: WA, USA Status: Offline Points: 29 |
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The Uzbek band Fromuz has a song called "13th August" which is largely in 13/8 time. And, this is laikely where the song title comes from. (In date-month notation, August 13th is 13th August, or 13/8)
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hans@progarch ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: January 30 2010 Location: GB Status: Offline Points: 4 |
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Interesting view on odd meters was discussed in the recent progarchives interview with The Psychedelic Ensemble.
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