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Pizda is considered as quite offensive word in Czech too. It refers to pedantic / stupid woman :-?

Terusi has therefore one "EP" with two songs (Slutnja & Mjesto pod sluncem) assuming my informations is correct. Can it be considered as release then ? It sounds good (I consider a lot of things as "good", which means thousands of different adjectives).

I suppose they could make a case here. What do you think ?

Ibn Tup - Based on two songs from Youtube (Deda & Pasidov el kaktus), Arabic Heavy Prog ? Sadly, these songs are not of high quality (not by far), but given conditions back then, I understand.
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Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:

Also, Alex, I'm curious to know, could you understand this?!? These villages are not far away from where I live (20 minutes by car), but unfortunately very few people here are aware of that.


Istro-Romanians... It depends. When they speak normally, sometimes it doesn't make any sense and sounds more like Portuguese, sometimes I recognize words any even bigger portions of talk, but even then I can't figure out what they're saying overall. But when they're asked to speak clear and count or say the days of the week, it sounds almost like Romanian. Also, interesting to see that they have absolutely no problem to understand the Romanian reporter.
Phoenix have done a whole piece sung in A-Romanian (but I don't know which A-Romanian dialect they chose, Istro-Romanian or another one). It can be heard on PA: Canticlu A Cucuveaualiei
How are calling these guys? In many Balkan countries they're called Vlachs (Vlachos in Greece).

The other sample you posted sounded a bit like Gypsy.


They're occasionally called Vlachs, but the term is to hazy, because nowadays it can represent a dozen of various ethnic/regional groups in these parts (at least that's my impression).

BTW, thanks for the link, I never bothered to check Phoenix before, it sounds really good!


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Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:

Also, Alex, I'm curious to know, could you understand this?!? These villages are not far away from where I live (20 minutes by car), but unfortunately very few people here are aware of that.


Istro-Romanians... It depends. When they speak normally, sometimes it doesn't make any sense and sounds more like Portuguese, sometimes I recognize words any even bigger portions of talk, but even then I can't figure out what they're saying overall. But when they're asked to speak clear and count or say the days of the week, it sounds almost like Romanian. Also, interesting to see that they have absolutely no problem to understand the Romanian reporter.
Phoenix have done a whole piece sung in A-Romanian (but I don't know which A-Romanian dialect they chose, Istro-Romanian or another one). It can be heard on PA: Canticlu A Cucuveaualiei
How are calling these guys? In many Balkan countries they're called Vlachs (Vlachos in Greece).

The other sample you posted sounded a bit like Gypsy.
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The linguistic diversity of the area where I live is stunning.

This is one of those languages nowadays spoken only in a few villages.

Also, Alex, I'm curious to know, could you understand this?!? These villages are not far away from where I live (20 minutes by car), but unfortunately very few people here are aware of that.
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Oh, sorry for exposing you guys to that particular word, I didn't think it was such an international item TongueEmbarrassed And yeah, that's the Italian swear I thought I heard. But no, except for those two expressions I didn't understand more LOL
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ROFLMAO!LOL


Yes, you've heard it well. His music is full of 'pizda materina' and 'va fan culo'. Quite an uncompromising artist for the last 30 years (and 70 albums!Shocked). He is from Istria, and he's often switching between languages in mid-sentence. It's not uncommon in the area...I guess you can understand him better than 85% of CroatiansSmile
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Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Hey Moris, is that guy saying "pizda" or did I mishear? That's a very nasty word in Romanian. Embarrassed And I also heard a widely known Italian swear word, but I'm not sure about that either. 


This word means the same in all Balkan languages and all other Turkish/Tartar influenced languages, Alex
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Hey Moris, is that guy saying "pizda" or did I mishear? That's a very nasty word in Romanian. Embarrassed And I also heard a widely known Italian swear word, but I'm not sure about that either. 
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Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:


Originally posted by ko ko wrote:

A progrock band (from Tuzla, Bosnia)  Terusi,  from early 70s, former Yugoslavia > 
 

 

Also an obscure progrock band from former Yugoslavia, Ibn Tup, i dont know from where exactly (maybe from Serbia, because of the record label) >
I'm amazed!Clap Never heard of those.It's a pity they released just a handful of singles...it seems Ibn Tup are from Vojvodina, most likely Novi Sad.Here's my little contribution to prog obscurity of the former country:


So, it's nothing strange I never heard about Terusi as well, even if I spent almost three years living not too far from Tuzla
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Originally posted by ko ko wrote:

A progrock band (from Tuzla, Bosnia)  Terusi,  from early 70s, former Yugoslavia > 
 
 
Also an obscure progrock band from former Yugoslavia, Ibn Tup, i dont know from where exactly (maybe from Serbia, because of the record label) >


I'm amazed!Clap Never heard of those.

It's a pity they released just a handful of singles...it seems Ibn Tup are from Vojvodina, most likely Novi Sad.


Here's my little contribution to prog obscurity of the former country:
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Points: 3968 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2010 at 10:24

The same in here Scott, I haven't turned on radio for years now.

Originally posted by Biggest radio station Evropa 2 Biggest radio station Evropa 2 wrote:


Lady Gaga, Miley Cyrus, 30 seconds to Mars, Eminem, HIM, Muse and few other + some Czech artists PopRock mostly


However, there is quiet famous radio station called Radio Beat, where Beat stands for Rock. It's Rock radio, playing Prog music too, but mostly Rock.

There is top 500 song list that was made by votes of listeners:

http://www.abclinuxu.cz/blog/FluxBlog/2008/6/-500-flaku-od-beataku-2008

Just scroll through Czech text till you get to the list.

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1
HIGHWAY TO HELL - AC/DC
2
STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN - LED ZEPPELIN
3
SATISFACTION - ROLLING STONES
4
HIGH HOPES - PINK FLOYD
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WE WILL ROCK YOU - QUEEN
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RUN TO THE HILLS - IRON MAIDEN
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NOTHING ELSE MATTERS - METALLICA
8
PARANOID - BLACK SABBATH
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YESTERDAY - BEATLES
10
SMOKE ON THE WATER - DEEP PURPLE

So at least you can be barely in connection with Prog here. And Rock quite rocks too, it's good substitute for Prog at times.



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I am not sure about Czech radio, but for example in Poland there are some small stations, and even few bigger, who translates quite interesting music - from old-time jazz and blues to late 60s-70s progressive rock, jazz-rock, etc. For sure, all big commercial radio stations translate same pop all around the world
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Points: 14258 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2010 at 09:58
Intriguing chart list. Very unusual when you compare it to some of the world charts.
 
 
Whats on top 10 Czech radio at present? Not prog but mainstream charts?
 
At present Australia charts are full of RapDeadDeadDead and Hip HopDeadDeadDeadDeadDead
 
Top 10 Australian Singles
 
 
i am embarassed to turn on the radio - actually the radio is rubbish, I will turn to prog webradiostations anyday. 


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What a big lists! Never thought there are so many E.European albums .

In full list mostly Polish and Czech/Slovak bands are on the top positions, with ex-YU teams right after - I think in whole it's a right picture of region
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Points: 22989 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2010 at 07:59
Very interesting charts Marty, thanks. Nice to see a Romanian album on top in both charts. Tongue

I had to edit out Mexico, Pakistan, South Africa, Turmenistan and Multi-National, though. Wink

Surprising to see After Crying's albums so low (27, 53, 61 etc.) in the chart. To me they're one of the best bands from this area of the world.
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Points: 3968 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2010 at 07:48

No update yet, so let me show you Eastern European charts:

Without Poland & Russia (too big)

Including Poland & Russia

UPDATE:

note that Mexico, Pakistan, South Africa, Turmenistan and Multi-National actually aren't on these lists if you look closer. It's just error in PA charts system that always puts them in selection, but they aren't in the list.

Unless you process the list again.



Edited by Marty McFly - July 08 2010 at 08:33
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A progrock band (from Tuzla, Bosnia)  Terusi,  from early 70s, former Yugoslavia >
 
 
Also an obscure progrock band from former Yugoslavia, Ibn Tup, i dont know from where exactly (maybe from Serbia, because of the record label) >


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goojje

Quote Goojje (Chinese characters: 谷姐, Pronounced [GOO-jay]) is a spoof website of Google China, ...

LOLDead

Sorry for my kiddin', Marty ... Embarrassed


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