WOMEN

Evans wrote:  I always (at least for as long as i've been here) assumed you were happily married to your wife, we have an saying here in the American south... it is often better to laugh than to cry. this actually made me a little bit sad, as i tend to think that divorces are among the sadder things that can happen without anyone... dying. They are... a portion of you dies with it... 10 years and 3 children regardless of the circumstance is a vast investment of .. your self as a person. Anyway.. is it possible that someone who is completely unlike you in every possible way can still be the "right" one that you talk about? I'm not Dr. Phil hhaha let me make that clear right off the bat, but yes I think it is possible, I've come to learn that anything is possible, but unfortunately...in that case ^ in my experiences .... it is not likely. In what way were you and your wife so totally wrong for each other? Surely, it must have been a lot more than musical tastes? :)  Different philosophies of life, different ways of dealing with the stresses of life, different goals in life... and so on......too many to mention actually   musical differences were a drop in the bucket but one that made for a few needed laughs ..on my end at least

Edited by micky - September 24 2006 at 19:36

micky wrote: Ghost Rider wrote: I haven't yet posted in this thread, but now I want to add my two very valuable eurocents to this discussion. I'm what many people would call a 'good' woman, i.e. sensitive, considerate of other people's feelings, and quite capable of love and affection. The result? I've spent a good deal of my life alone, with most of my attempts at a relationship failed, and ended up so broken-hearted that, about five years ago, I swore I'd never again let myself be fooled by a man. If that happened because men found me dull, I don't know (does anyone here find me so?), and certainly it didn't happen because I was particularly repulsive either. Anyway, the end result was always the same: loneliness, sorrow and frustration. At present, and totally unexpectedly, things seem to have changed for the better, though the price to pay will probably be quite high. I'm grateful to life for the gift it gave me when I least expected it, but can't help regretting those wasted years... and getting very angry whenever I see men complaining about 'bad' women who mistreat them. No offense meant to anyone, of course! ahhahaha.. who says a dog can't learn....  saved before I hit post... or else I would have lost this and probably not rewritten.. ahhhh  either have I.  And will match your honesty with some of my own...... Woman are just like men.... there is no good or bad... they are all individuals and as such ... threre are some who are good for us, bad for us,  perfect for us, and downright disasters. It's relative to who we are and view them through the prism of our existance. For me...  this last summer I seperated from my wife of 10 years.  Some here know..some may suspect so  and some  don't (while others could care less hahahhahaha) .  The details are personal but will say that I made a horrible decision and married a woman who was not good for me.  I know I may have not been given the impression through my posts, this place being an escape in a way for a long time,  but it was a very unhappy marriage held together only by our 3 young children.  I grew up having the idea of the perfect woman for me... yet I never found her.  As I got into my late 20's I gave up and compromised what I wanted and married who I thought might be a good wife.  We didn't even have a honeymoon so to speak and were in therapy  within our first year. After 10 years of trying to make what should have never happened work.  It finally ended.  There are those on my side who see her as the devil incarnate.. and I'm sure those on her side who see me as the same.  We were just totally  differnent people who had no business having a  family... much less being married.  However in the twists and turns of life... that woman that I had always looked for... has come into my life around the same time and I could honestly say that I've never been happier in my life.   Life is a long journey and I am meerly opening a new chapter now. Lesson to any who bother to read this....  never rush getting into marriage or making the fool mistake that if you aren't married by a certain age that you will die alone.  Fate/God whatever has a way of suprising you when you least expect it.  Never compromise what you believe in and never settle for less than what you want.  I made a mistake that will cost me severely for many years for doing just that.

I always (at least for as long as i've been here) assumed you were happily married to your wife, this actually made me a little bit sad, as i tend to think that divorces are among the sadder things that can happen without anyone... dying.

Anyway.. is it possible that someone who is completely unlike you in every possible way can still be the "right" one that you talk about?
In what way were you and your wife so totally wrong for each other? Surely, it must have been a lot more than musical tastes? :)

micky wrote: Ghost Rider wrote: I haven't yet posted in this thread, but now I want to add my two very valuable eurocents to this discussion. I'm what many people would call a 'good' woman, i.e. sensitive, considerate of other people's feelings, and quite capable of love and affection. The result? I've spent a good deal of my life alone, with most of my attempts at a relationship failed, and ended up so broken-hearted that, about five years ago, I swore I'd never again let myself be fooled by a man. If that happened because men found me dull, I don't know (does anyone here find me so?), and certainly it didn't happen because I was particularly repulsive either. Anyway, the end result was always the same: loneliness, sorrow and frustration. At present, and totally unexpectedly, things seem to have changed for the better, though the price to pay will probably be quite high. I'm grateful to life for the gift it gave me when I least expected it, but can't help regretting those wasted years... and getting very angry whenever I see men complaining about 'bad' women who mistreat them. No offense meant to anyone, of course! ahhahaha.. who says a dog can't learn....  saved before I hit post... or else I would have lost this and probably not rewritten.. ahhhh  either have I.  And will match your honesty with some of my own...... Woman are just like men.... there is no good or bad... they are all individuals and as such ... threre are some who are good for us, bad for us,  perfect for us, and downright disasters. It's relative to who we are and view them through the prism of our existance. For me...  this last summer I seperated from my wife of 10 years.  Some here know..some may suspect so  and some  don't (while others could care less hahahhahaha) .  The details are personal but will say that I made a horrible decision and married a woman who was not good for me.  I know I may have not been given the impression through my posts, this place being an escape in a way for a long time,  but it was a very unhappy marriage held together only by our 3 young children.  I grew up having the idea of the perfect woman for me... yet I never found her.  As I got into my late 20's I gave up and compromised what I wanted and married who I thought might be a good wife.  We didn't even have a honeymoon so to speak and were in therapy  within our first year. After 10 years of trying to make what should have never happened work.  It finally ended.  There are those on my side who see her as the devil incarnate.. and I'm sure those on her side who see me as the same.  We were just totally  differnent people who had no business having a  family... much less being married.  However in the twists and turns of life... that woman that I had always looked for... has come into my life around the same time and I could honestly say that I've never been happier in my life.   Life is a long journey and I am meerly opening a new chapter now. Lesson to any who bother to read this....  never rush getting into marriage or making the fool mistake that if you aren't married by a certain age that you will die alone.  Fate/God whatever has a way of suprising you when you least expect it.  Never compromise what you believe in and never settle for less than what you want.  I made a mistake that will cost me severely for many years for doing just that.

Visitor13 wrote: Women are yummy.

I see you "eat out".

I agree. 

mystic fred wrote: Ghost Rider wrote: mystic fred wrote: AtLossForWords wrote: I think the problem why many intelligent males cannot score in the win column with a female is that they aren't enough of an asshole.  Sex is such a personal thing, it's hard to express your emotions and wishes in the positive fashion you might like.  Someone who is a little bit more dumb and blunt will always have a better chance at getting laid, because he can more easily, clearly, and bluntly expression his somewhat rude and sometimes abusive intentions.  I find it sad so many women are unfortunate enough to fall or this.     VERY INTERESTING POINT! - "treat 'em mean and keep 'em keen" i believe the saying goes, my family think i'm too soft and kind with my girl friends, and the novelty soon wears off - alternatively i get turned on by bossy sexy women and have passed up "nice" girls because i found them plain dull !!!     I haven't yet posted in this thread, but now I want to add my two very valuable eurocents to this discussion. I'm what many people would call a 'good' woman, i.e. sensitive, considerate of other people's feelings, and quite capable of love and affection. The result? I've spent a good deal of my life alone, with most of my attempts at a relationship failed, and ended up so broken-hearted that, about five years ago, I swore I'd never again let myself be fooled by a man. If that happened because men found me dull, I don't know (does anyone here find me so?), and certainly it didn't happen because I was particularly repulsive either. Anyway, the end result was always the same: loneliness, sorrow and frustration. At present, and totally unexpectedly, things seem to have changed for the better, though the price to pay will probably be quite high. I'm grateful to life for the gift it gave me when I least expected it, but can't help regretting those wasted years... and getting very angry whenever I see men complaining about 'bad' women who mistreat them. No offense meant to anyone, of course!       from mystic fred... ...DIDN'T MEAN YOU GHOSTIE!! you're the most interesting girl i haven't met  i wish i could meet someone like you in England! - you're definitely not dull !!   when any group of men get together they'll have a good 'ol moan about women - and vice versa i guess, and men gossip too you know!!

It seems all men complain about how bad women are, and all women complain about how bad men are.....I tend to agree with both

Ghost Rider wrote: I haven't yet posted in this thread, but now I want to add my two very valuable eurocents to this discussion. I'm what many people would call a 'good' woman, i.e. sensitive, considerate of other people's feelings, and quite capable of love and affection. The result? I've spent a good deal of my life alone, with most of my attempts at a relationship failed, and ended up so broken-hearted that, about five years ago, I swore I'd never again let myself be fooled by a man. If that happened because men found me dull, I don't know (does anyone here find me so?), and certainly it didn't happen because I was particularly repulsive either. Anyway, the end result was always the same: loneliness, sorrow and frustration. At present, and totally unexpectedly, things seem to have changed for the better, though the price to pay will probably be quite high. I'm grateful to life for the gift it gave me when I least expected it, but can't help regretting those wasted years... and getting very angry whenever I see men complaining about 'bad' women who mistreat them. No offense meant to anyone, of course!

ahhahaha.. who says a dog can't learn....  saved before I hit post... or else I would have lost this and probably not rewritten..

ahhhh  either have I.  And will match your honesty with some of my own......

Woman are just like men.... there is no good or bad... they are all individuals and as such ... threre are some who are good for us, bad for us,  perfect for us, and downright disasters. It's relative to who we are and view them through the prism of our existance.

For me...  this last summer I seperated from my wife of 10 years.  Some here know..some may suspect so  and some  don't (while others could care less hahahhahaha) .  The details are personal but will say that I made a horrible decision and married a woman who was not good for me.  I know I may have not been given the impression through my posts, this place being an escape in a way for a long time,  but it was a very unhappy marriage held together only by our 3 young children.  I grew up having the idea of the perfect woman for me... yet I never found her.  As I got into my late 20's I gave up and compromised what I wanted and married who I thought might be a good wife.  We didn't even have a honeymoon so to speak and were in therapy  within our first year. After 10 years of trying to make what should have never happened work.  It finally ended.  There are those on my side who see her as the devil incarnate.. and I'm sure those on her side who see me as the same.  We were just totally  differnent people who had no business having a  family... much less being married.  However in the twists and turns of life... that woman that I had always looked for... has come into my life around the same time and I could honestly say that I've never been happier in my life.   Life is a long journey and I am meerly opening a new chapter now.

Lesson to any who bother to read this....  never rush getting into marriage or making the fool mistake that if you aren't married by a certain age that you will die alone.  Fate/God whatever has a way of suprising you when you least expect it.  Never compromise what you believe in and never settle for less than what you want.  I made a mistake that will cost me severely for many years for doing just that.

Ghost Rider wrote: mystic fred wrote: AtLossForWords wrote: I think the problem why many intelligent males cannot score in the win column with a female is that they aren't enough of an asshole.  Sex is such a personal thing, it's hard to express your emotions and wishes in the positive fashion you might like.  Someone who is a little bit more dumb and blunt will always have a better chance at getting laid, because he can more easily, clearly, and bluntly expression his somewhat rude and sometimes abusive intentions.  I find it sad so many women are unfortunate enough to fall or this.     VERY INTERESTING POINT! - "treat 'em mean and keep 'em keen" i believe the saying goes, my family think i'm too soft and kind with my girl friends, and the novelty soon wears off - alternatively i get turned on by bossy sexy women and have passed up "nice" girls because i found them plain dull !!!     I haven't yet posted in this thread, but now I want to add my two very valuable eurocents to this discussion. I'm what many people would call a 'good' woman, i.e. sensitive, considerate of other people's feelings, and quite capable of love and affection. The result? I've spent a good deal of my life alone, with most of my attempts at a relationship failed, and ended up so broken-hearted that, about five years ago, I swore I'd never again let myself be fooled by a man. If that happened because men found me dull, I don't know (does anyone here find me so?), and certainly it didn't happen because I was particularly repulsive either. Anyway, the end result was always the same: loneliness, sorrow and frustration.At present, and totally unexpectedly, things seem to have changed for the better, though the price to pay will probably be quite high. I'm grateful to life for the gift it gave me when I least expected it, but can't help regretting those wasted years... and getting very angry whenever I see men complaining about 'bad' women who mistreat them.No offense meant to anyone, of course!

    
till now i didnt see any bad woman

though i dont have any girlfriend


    

Edited by R o V e R - September 23 2006 at 03:50

Dalezilla wrote: I don't get girls. There was a girl who liked me and told me that she'd like us to become more that just friends. I told her that I don't know if it would work out and maybe we should stay as friends for now. I got to know her better and ended up liking her quite a bit. I told her that maybe she's right. After that she started ignoring me. Then she told me that she doesn't want to talk to me at all. Very confusing...  This happened a long time ago btw.

I think the problem why many intelligent males cannot score in the win column with a female is that they aren't enough of an asshole.  Sex is such a personal thing, it's hard to express your emotions and wishes in the positive fashion you might like.  Someone who is a little bit more dumb and blunt will always have a better chance at getting laid, because he can more easily, clearly, and bluntly expression his somewhat rude and sometimes abusive intentions.  I find it sad so many women are unfortunate enough to fall or this.