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Kingsnake 
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 Posted: September 16 2016 at 03:45 |
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I was not looking for a fight, and I don't understand your hostility.
Maybe we just have to stop this conversation, so maintain the peace, adn talk about Camel's music.
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O666
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Posted: September 16 2016 at 03:39 |
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Thanks for teaching me about "Forum" ! I said I don't want to fight about Underrated word BUT I stand on my opinion. I love Camel so much and I wrote my opinion under "The Camel Appreciation Thread" topic. You can't push me out because of my opposite opinion.
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Kingsnake
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Posted: September 16 2016 at 03:26 |
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Sure, you can have your opinion. But when you put your opinion in a forum, you have to understand that not anybody agrees.
If you don't wat to dicuss your opinion, don't put in a forum. I still absolutely don't agree that Camel is underrated. |
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O666
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Posted: September 16 2016 at 03:24 |
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Hi. I talk about my opinion and I stand on it. I mean they MUST have more fans. Camel have many "Masterpieces" but they don't have many fans! I don't want to fight about "Underrated" word!
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: September 16 2016 at 03:24 |
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With Mirage at 17, Moonmadness 19th and The Snow Goose in 50th place on PA's user generated top 100 who exactly is it that underrates them? Rock journalists? Punks? Adolescents? They're surely not underrated by prog fans.
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Kingsnake
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Posted: September 16 2016 at 03:16 |
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Camel is absolutely not underrated. Who underrates Camel?
Almost anyone into progrock knows the band, and have at least one favorite album. I really don't like the term 'underrated'. |
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O666
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Posted: September 16 2016 at 03:14 |
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I am a huge fan of Camel. Unfortunately Camel is underrated band and I don't know why?!
Edited by O666 - September 16 2016 at 03:15 |
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Kingsnake
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Posted: September 16 2016 at 01:49 |
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A Nod and a Wink is really recommended.
Camel sounds more like a band, and it's almost retro-sounding. Dust and Dreams and Harbour of Tears suffer from a sterile production and a depressing mood (altough i like it) Rajaz sounds like a guitarplayer's solo-album. Heavy progressive rock with lots and lots of guitar. Nod and a Wink is the first album in years to feature two vocalists, lots of flute, lots and lots of orchestral keybaords, even drumsolos. It could have been the album that followed Moonmadness.
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Quinino
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Posted: September 15 2016 at 15:46 |
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When, as a young boy around 14, I listened for the first time to the Snow Goose LP in a friend friend's home, my immature musical taste underwent a profound (and irreversible) earthquake, whose effects last to this day.
I love the music and have a huge respect and admiration of Andy, whom I had the pleasure to see live only 2 times, but can remember both very vividly (almost 30 years apart, just imagine). The 4 albums from the 90's are for me just as good as those from the 70's everybody loves - do yourselves a favor and go listen to Rajaz, Dust & Dreams or A Nod & A Wink, great music all around (don't expect it to be the same sound as before, but then there's Andy...) |
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Posted: September 15 2016 at 15:18 |
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He's cool too!.. Plays an awesome bass as well!...
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Posted: September 15 2016 at 15:16 |
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I love this band! Period!!!!......
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Posted: September 15 2016 at 14:46 |
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^ Colin Bass.
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"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
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Lewian
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Posted: September 15 2016 at 05:50 |
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One of the best live concerts I saw was in about 1988 by a strange world music band called 3 Mustaphas 3 with a certain Sabah Habas Mustapha on bass. Who was nobody else than...?
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Posted: September 15 2016 at 03:59 |
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Great band - I first saw them live on the 'I Can See Your House..' tour (the line up with Kit Watkins) and then the 'Nude' tour (Andy Ward's last with the band). Then I saw them last year and they were fantastic!
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I agree. I'd also like to say that Mel Collins' additions to this and other songs on that album take them to another level.
I like Breathless too. Apart from the "bunnies are bouncing" song which is a bit twee, there's some great stuff on there. Echoes, Summer Lightning and the title track especially.
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Posted: September 14 2016 at 21:46 |
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I really like the first era. I have "Mirage" and "Moonmadness", plus "A Live Record" with the whole "Snow Goose", so I don't feel the urge to get the studio album. I got some bonus live tracks from their debut, plus some more tracks from a compilation album, but I guess I should get it at some point. Given the tracks I heard on the compilation, I don't really feel I want albums after Ferguson left... even though the live tracks on A Live Record from the first albums played with Mel Collins do sound great with that added sax.
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Just to mention a few things...
1) I saw them live three times (all in the eighties) and they were great. Latimer would always put together musicians who really know their trade. 2) The Live Record version of Never Let Go is just so stunning. I love the song anyway but the solos and the rhythm section Ward/Sinclair are as good as it gets. 3) I actually love Breathless. True there's the odd downer on it but it has so much variety and such a positive mood and a number of tracks are among their best - and it's still Sinclair/Ward, I think I'm addicted to them. 4) "They struck me as a band with no egos" - not too sure about this, at least after Bardens departed, I think Latimer was clearly the boss and would make use of this position. |
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Posted: September 14 2016 at 16:15 |
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I've been a huge fan since I heard Never Let Go on FM radio around 1976. Initially bought the debut and Mirage and was not crazy about them, but I persisted and was rewarded with Snow Goose and Moonmadness. Pretty much all their albums have something to recommend. I'm alsio a big fan of "Stationary Traveller", where they really blended prog and new wave effectively. They struck me as a band with no egos, perhaps because none of them could sing very well but they all tried! They wrote material that they were able to sing to by and large. Never saw them live, as they have never toured near where I have lived that I know of.
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Posted: September 14 2016 at 15:27 |
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Song Within a Song is one of my favorite songs from any band.
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Posted: September 14 2016 at 12:20 |
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One of my favourite prog bands, although I only really like the albums where Peter Bardens was involved. I saw them live twice - once on the I Can See Your House From Here tour, and the second time was about 15 years ago in a small club in Leicester. My favourite tracks by them are Lady Fantasy, Lunar Sea, Rhyader/Rhyader Goes To Town and the Live Record version of Never Let Go.
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